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What happened to the power running game.

Our FB Walter Tucker complained about no mint chocolate chip ice cream when the truck came and threw a fit when his dodgeball was red when he wanted the green one. For this he has been in Golden's double dog house since.
 
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Per usual we're out of sync with everything. In watching highlight packages from Saturday the announcers were emphasizing that power football was slowly returning to prominence. They ran one clip after another of Iowa and other teams succeeding with basic football from standard sets. The Michigan/Michigan State game was spotlighted.

Naturally the Canes pick here and now to make the transition that other programs made 5+ seasons ago. USC went there last year. Trojan fans are already sick of shotgun football. There are threads asserting the next coach cannot be a read option type.

As I mentioned last week, the most sickening contrast was the Cincinnati game compared to the North Carolina game at Chapel Hill two years ago. I attended both games. There was no question that North Carolina's defense was far more athletic and talented than anything Cincinnati fielded. The opposing crowd was larger and more frenzied. Our deficit was larger at North Carolina. But I retained hope during that Thursday at Chapel Hill once we got under center in the 4th quarter and started pounding away. There was absolutely no threat of that this time. I watched but never considered the prospect of a rally. We had the same offensive coordinator but once you've switched to cupcake fake and finesse out of the shotgun you aren't going to have power football as a backup plan. Somehow the coordinators and spread head coaches deem that as weak. You'll never see Sumlin do it. I loved McElwain several years ago because he was one of the ultra rare exceptions. I'm sure he'll steadily forge Florida in position to succeed with either style once he has more of his own recruits in place.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
Per usual we're out of sync with everything. In watching highlight packages from Saturday the announcers were emphasizing that power football was slowly returning to prominence. They ran one clip after another of Iowa and other teams succeeding with basic football from standard sets. The Michigan/Michigan State game was spotlighted.

Naturally the Canes pick here and now to make the transition that other programs made 5+ seasons ago. USC went there last year. Trojan fans are already sick of shotgun football. There are threads asserting the next coach cannot be a read option type.

As I mentioned last week, the most sickening contrast was the Cincinnati game compared to the North Carolina game at Chapel Hill two years ago. I attended both games. There was no question that North Carolina's defense was far more athletic and talented than anything Cincinnati fielded. The opposing crowd was larger and more frenzied. Our deficit was larger at North Carolina. But I retained hope during that Thursday at Chapel Hill once we got under center in the 4th quarter and started pounding away. There was absolutely no threat of that this time. I watched but never considered the prospect of a rally. We had the same offensive coordinator but once you've switched to cupcake fake and finesse out of the shotgun you aren't going to have power football as a backup plan. Somehow the coordinators and spread head coaches deem that as weak. You'll never see Sumlin do it. I loved McElwain several years ago because he was one of the ultra rare exceptions. I'm sure he'll steadily forge Florida in position to succeed with either style once he has more of his own recruits in place.
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Golden has a game plan and he comes into the game with it ..and doesnt make adjustments to that at all.

_After fsu game he stated .."we knew coming in we were going to attack fsu vertically, up the seam"...and damnit all we did was throw on them...never got the run game involved or tried to.

CINCY was just flat out them not respecting cincy...cause quite frankly we should have been able to have our way with them....he sh*t his pants in a road game there.
 
Dghustla said:
I'm with you OP. We are running zone runs with 2 ton maulers upfront. Typical al golden not recruiting for a scheme then not adjusting scheme to fit his players.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Yes the OL is not good but this issue goes deeper than that. This is another prime example of how Folden sucks massive quantities of dead penguin dikks as a coach. He basically has an OL that is comprised of 4 guards and a center with very little athleticism to speak of. What they do have is very good size and strength. So what does Folden do? Does he run a man, drive blocking, power running scheme? No the imbecil runs a zone scheme that calls for quickness, athleticism and solid technique as if he was coaching Mark Schlereth and the rest of the 98 Broncos OL. Just bizarre.

Anyone else's mind ever go back to Fat Al's initial press conference when Al said " Think players not plays"? It makes no sense whatsoever. That would be like Mike Leach using his initial press conference to extoll the virtues of a power running game. The guy is just lost and so in over his head.
 
oracleturts said:
No I formation. No Ace. No lead blocker. We run a limited amount of pistol but we telegraph everything. Every pistol run is off tackle., predominately to the right. Every shotgun is always to the opposite side of where he is lined up and is almost always to the right.
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No I formation. NO FB. No lead blocker. No power running game in the spread.

Y'all wanted the spread so deal with it.
 
frank1886 said:
oracleturts said:
No I formation. No Ace. No lead blocker. We run a limited amount of pistol but we telegraph everything. Every pistol run is off tackle., predominately to the right. Every shotgun is always to the opposite side of where he is lined up and is almost always to the right.
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No I formation. NO FB. No lead blocker. No power running game in the spread.

Y'all wanted the spread so deal with it.
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Uh...

You can use all of the same run concepts out of the spread that you use in the pro-style. Coley just doesn't know WTF he's doing.

You can run Power, Iso, Counter, Trap, etc etc etc...out of the spread.
 
Phillyc55 said:
Until coley gets fired nothing changes
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You are a douche bag of the highest order.

Coley ain't no offensive guru, but he is being constantly micro-managed by the fraud that is Alfredo Fraulden.

Stop trolling the CiS boards.

It all starts and ends with "The Tie."

His players, his schemes, his pillars, his responsibility.

You should concentrate more on bashing Flake James, the BoT, Admin and Fraulden. Coley is just another byproduct of Alfalfa's clown show.
 
OrlandoCane said:
One problem with the running game is it's *predictable*. Against VT, Miami ran an off tackle play almost every 1st and 10. Bud Foster quickly figred this out and started loading the box every 1st down, and the result was usually a no gain.

Less predictable play calling would help.
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Well said 💯
 
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I could be wrong but I don't feel like I've seen a new running play (installed) since the first game. I'm seeing the same plays now that I saw in week one.
 
frank1886 said:
oracleturts said:
No I formation. No Ace. No lead blocker. We run a limited amount of pistol but we telegraph everything. Every pistol run is off tackle., predominately to the right. Every shotgun is always to the opposite side of where he is lined up and is almost always to the right.
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No I formation. NO FB. No lead blocker. No power running game in the spread.

Y'all wanted the spread so deal with it.
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Watch the New England Patriots. We don't have to do as much as them, but we can switch between zone and power running more effectively. Out of almost any formation.

We just suck. At basically everything.
 
Coach Macho said:
I could be wrong but I don't feel like I've seen a new running play (installed) since the first game. I'm seeing the same plays now that I saw in week one.
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How many more times are we going to see the angle route play to Yearby? When in doubt, do what worked against FAU.
 
LuCane said:
Coach Macho said:
I could be wrong but I don't feel like I've seen a new running play (installed) since the first game. I'm seeing the same plays now that I saw in week one.
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How many more times are we going to see the angle route play to Yearby? When in doubt, do what worked against FAU.
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Right!

Or the run/pass option with the quick slant from the #2 receiver.
 
Like I said a few weeks ago....

It's like Coley went to a spread clinic and it currently running the same 5 plays that he learned in the clinic.
 
Coach Macho said:
Like I said a few weeks ago....

It's like Coley went to a spread clinic and it currently running the same 5 plays that he learned in the clinic.
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Pretty much lol, the lack of playcalling has cost us more games these last couple of years than the defense, let that sink in, and this defensive philosophy and playcalling is trash
 
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Coach Macho said:
frank1886 said:
oracleturts said:
No I formation. No Ace. No lead blocker. We run a limited amount of pistol but we telegraph everything. Every pistol run is off tackle., predominately to the right. Every shotgun is always to the opposite side of where he is lined up and is almost always to the right.
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No I formation. NO FB. No lead blocker. No power running game in the spread.

Y'all wanted the spread so deal with it.
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Uh...

You can use all of the same run concepts out of the spread that you use in the pro-style. Coley just doesn't know WTF he's doing.

You can run Power, Iso, Counter, Trap, etc etc etc...out of the spread.
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Exactly.

Some of you have a weird perception of the spread offense. Tell * that you can't have a power run game out of it.
 
LuCane said:
frank1886 said:
oracleturts said:
No I formation. No Ace. No lead blocker. We run a limited amount of pistol but we telegraph everything. Every pistol run is off tackle., predominately to the right. Every shotgun is always to the opposite side of where he is lined up and is almost always to the right.
Click to expand...

No I formation. NO FB. No lead blocker. No power running game in the spread.

Y'all wanted the spread so deal with it.
Click to expand...

Watch the New England Patriots. We don't have to do as much as them, but we can switch between zone and power running more effectively. Out of almost any formation.

We just suck. At basically everything.
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absolutely, a true multiple, pro style offense. We are not switching up anthing though. We run the same **** every week. We game plan for no one.
 
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