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Cookie917 said:
Johnson I can see. A lot of UM guys followed Lashlee to SMU, SMU had a **** good year and some former players (Elijah Roberts, Brashard Smith) have found great success, others have been middle of the road (Key the WR) and others have been a bust (Romello Brinson) I could see Johnson giving it a shot in the land of milk and honey on a **** good team over fighting for RB3/4 carries here.

Ajay Allen I cannot comprehend. Dude seemed to make plays any time he played and carried us to some W's. I thought for sure he would get a good look by an SMU type school but instead he went to FIU. So not like he can use the homesick excuse, the dude probably didnt even move out of his apartment and will be playing at a much worse school with a much worse offensive line.
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Isn't this Allen's last year of eligibility? He likely want's some good film out there before he declares for the NFL draft. It would certainly give him a better chance of being a late round pick, or even a priority free agent. I assume he'd be in the mix for RB1 at FIU
 
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ST26 said:
First off, a big time RB isn't going to come in with Lyle and Fletcher. And if they do, one of those two are gone. We aren't getting another OT, as we have Bell, Mccoy, Samson and Kinsler on the roster.. Unless someone transfers, I don't see the value in adding a low end depth saftey either. Quality over Quantity is they key in the portal. I'd rather spend all our money on 2-4 additions than 5+ low end "depth pieces". Again, these number change depending on who enters
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I'm not sure @BALLHAWKU was saying we need a "big time" RB (that's probably not happening). I read his comment as we need a "big ***" RB similar in size (not necessarily talent) to Martinez. Lyle, CWH, and Pringle are a bit on the lighter side of RBs.
 
ST26 said:
Isn't this Allen's last year of eligibility? He likely want's some good film out there before he declares for the NFL draft. It would certainly give him a better chance of being a late round pick, or even a priority free agent. I assume he'd be in the mix for RB1 at FIU
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Allen transferring out sucks for us. But I agree the kid deserves his chance and he wasn't getting it here. It was the way I felt with Brashard last cycle. And I loved B Smith as a player and will follow his NFL career. Some kids are super talented but just don't fit for whatever reason relative to the other pieces on the board.
 
ST26 said:
Isn't this Allen's last year of eligibility? He likely want's some good film out there before he declares for the NFL draft. It would certainly give him a better chance of being a late round pick, or even a priority free agent. I assume he'd be in the mix for RB1 at FIU
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I dont think so... he was a 2022 recruit, played in 4 games for Nebraska and RS.

2023 he was a RS Freshman
2024 he was a RS Soph

I think he is therefore going into his RS Junior year so he has 2 left.

I agree he needs tape to put out there but I still was surprised he went to the G level. Like not even a UCF type level and he better have had a guarantee at RB1 at FIU if that was the case. I think he could have shot for potential RB1 status at a handful of teams better than FIU.
 
grover said:
Allen transferring out sucks for us. But I agree the kid deserves his chance and he wasn't getting it here. It was the way I felt with Brashard last cycle. And I loved B Smith as a player and will follow his NFL career. Some kids are super talented but just don't fit for whatever reason relative to the other pieces on the board.
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Does it really? He was going to start the year out RB3 anyways, and likely would have gotten phased out by Pringle. We'll live lol
 
ST26 said:
Does it really? He was going to start the year out RB3 anyways, and likely would have gotten phased out by Pringle. We'll live lol
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You're could easily be proven right. But I always approach every position group assuming at least 1 guy will miss time due to injury, and possibly 2. Then I ask myself if we're still a playoff caliber team. Obviously, with QB, most teams including Miami need to roll the dice. But at every other position, championship teams have enough depth to cover. Do we?

What happens if Fletcher or Lyle get injured during camp or early in the season? Maybe the other guy is able to hold up over 13-16 games as the primary ball carrier. I wouldn't count on it. So then we're relying on CWH and Pringle, which could easily cost us a game. And what happens if, knock on wood, both our starters are injured at the same time. That's happened at least a couple times over the past decade. I assume you move Lofton over. But then who the heck plays TE?

From a playoff planning perspective, yeah, I do think Allen is a loss.
 
grover said:
You're could easily be proven right. But I always approach every position group assuming at least 1 guy will miss time due to injury, and possibly 2. Then I ask myself if we're still a playoff caliber team. Obviously, with QB, most teams including Miami need to roll the dice. But at every other position, championship teams have enough depth to cover. Do we?

What happens if Fletcher or Lyle get injured during camp or early in the season? Maybe the other guy is able to hold up over 13-16 games as the primary ball carrier. I wouldn't count on it. So then we're relying on CWH and Pringle, which could easily cost us a game. And what happens if, knock on wood, both our starters are injured at the same time. That's happened at least a couple times over the past decade. I assume you move Lofton over. But then who the heck plays TE?

From a playoff planning perspective, yeah, I do think Allen is a loss.
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We can easily find a replacement that will fill Allens role in the spring portal window. Again, I’m not worried about this position in the slightest lol
 
Needs:

Wide Receiver: (1, possibly 2). We have only eight, which is fairly low
Running Back: (1 at minimum, 2 preferable). We have only four. Ideal is six, and some teams carry more than that
Safety: 1 more
Quarterback: Veteran to anchor the backup position
 
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The U is back to work said:
In order of need, IMO:
- WR1 with production
- ILB with production
- QB2 given the injury
- NT for the run game
- S2 in case nobody emerges
- RB3 for the injury protection
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I think QB is dependent on if someone transfers out. I honestly only think we’ll grab a saftey or NT if a stud is there. The staff seems to really like what they have with the DB and Dline room. For the most part, think we’re done grabbing those cheap one year portal rentals. I don’t necessarily care one way or the other about RB
 
The U is back to work said:
In order of need, IMO:
- WR1 with production
- ILB with production
- QB2 given the injury
- NT for the run game
- S2 in case nobody emerges
- RB3 for the injury protection
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Agree with this assessment for the most part. I’d personally swap NT/DT with QB2 ‘cuz if we have to rely on QB2 to win games the season is over anyway. I’d rather build the DL.
 
The U is back to work said:
In order of need, IMO:
- WR1 with production
- ILB with production
- QB2 given the injury
- NT for the run game
- S2 in case nobody emerges
- RB3 for the injury protection
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Blay is the NT. I know everybody wants that big 320+ space eater but based on the guys Mario has targeted since he has been here I don’t think he wants guys who just eat up space. It seems he values guys who can move
 
1. The two fastest linebackers in the spring portal.

1.a. The best WR in the spring portal.
 
  1. Starter caliber slot WR
  2. 6-4+ rotational WR
  3. Rotational RB
  4. Rotational run stuffing DT
  5. Starter caliber LB
  6. Sure tackler boundary safety
 
The U is back to work said:
In order of need, IMO:
- WR1 with production
- ILB with production
- QB2 given the injury
- NT for the run game
- S2 in case nobody emerges
- RB3 for the injury protection
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I 100% agree with your list. I’d only argue the order of importance.

If our goal is the CFP, we are absolutely going to need a 1T/NT on the roster who could eat two OL from OSU or UGA or Bama. We need to be stout in the trenches on both sides, and having a bunch of 3T speed guys won’t cut it against the aforementioned.

And you can bet the house that Clemson is going to try to punish our DL.

Get me a Nose and a thumper LB so that Blay, Scott and Moten can get upfield, and I’m feeling much better about our ACCCG / CFP chances.

QB2 is good insurance no doubt, but if Beck goes down our season is ****ed anyway.
 
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252cane said:
Blay is the NT. I know everybody wants that big 320+ space eater but based on the guys Mario has targeted since he has been here I don’t think he wants guys who just eat up space. It seems he values guys who can move
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You’re not wrong, but I don’t like Mario’s take on this.

The same reason why we need to be physically imposing on the OL applies to the DL as well.

We need a big body DT, even if situational for power run teams.
 
The Sphinx said:
You’re not wrong, but I don’t like Mario’s take on this.

The same reason why we need to be physically imposing on the OL applies to the DL as well.

We need a big body DT, even if situational for power run teams.
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Not only that. 3 guys plus a couple more "hope so"s is just not good enough. We need more talent period, whether it's 1 or 3 tech. I'm so frickin sick of having to rely on guys like Gore or Deen or Clark (14 bench reps at Pro Day!) for meaningful reps.
 
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The Sphinx said:
You’re not wrong, but I don’t like Mario’s take on this.

The same reason why we need to be physically imposing on the OL applies to the DL as well.

We need a big body DT, even if situational for power run teams.
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Moten is 320-325. Blay is 300+. Jones is 315. Scott 300, Horton 307. We aren’t small at DT like in years past. This will be the biggest DT group at Miami in a while. And it isn’t that he doesn’t want the bigger body DTs they just have to have movement ability. We have enough size up front but I agree I think we need 1 more DT because few of these guys haven’t played and Horton hasn’t been able to stay healthy
 
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