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Harbaugh
Ryan Day
Norvell
Kalen DeBoar
Sark
James Franklin
Lane
Jeff Brohm
Jonathan Stewart
Heupel
Gundy

That's nearly 75% of the current top 15 in CFB that were OC's before becoming HC's. The majority still are their team's primary play callers. Defense is great and important in the grand scheme (see Lincoln Riley) but the vast majority of current HC's that are having success come from successful offensive coaching backgrounds.

Meanwhile, we hired an OL coach.
 
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JZCane0825 said:
Harbaugh
Ryan Day
Norvell
Kalen DeBoar
Sark
James Franklin
Lane
Jeff Brohm
Jonathan Stewart
Heupel
Gundy

That's nearly 75% of the current top 15 in CFB that were OC's before becoming HC's. The majority still are their team's primary play callers. Defense is great and important in the grand scheme (see Lincoln Riley) but the vast majority of current HC's that are having success come from successful offensive coaching backgrounds.

Meanwhile, we hired an OL coach.
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Yet the likely National Championship will go to one of two defensive coaches (Saban/Kirby). The last offensive coach to win it all... Dabo in 2018/2016 then OSU in 2014 with Meyer.

If the goal is #6, defensive minds are doing pretty well over the last 10 years.
 
OP is on the right track though. I’d amend it to this…

How many successful head coaches are there in college football that don’t have extensive success on either side of the ball?

Harbaugh? (cheating sob)
Dabo? (Had extensive experience working with WRs and called plays at times…not looking so hot right now)

Sam Pittman? Kirk Ferentz?

It’s a dying breed.
 
90scane said:
Yet the likely National Championship will go to one of two defensive coaches (Saban/Kirby). The last offensive coach to win it all... Dabo in 2018/2016 then OSU in 2014 with Meyer.

If the goal is #6, defensive minds are doing pretty well over the last 10 years.
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Yet we hired an OL coach with no coordinator experience.
 
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JZCane0825 said:
Harbaugh
Ryan Day
Norvell
Kalen DeBoar
Sark
James Franklin
Lane
Jeff Brohm
Jonathan Stewart
Heupel
Gundy

That's nearly 75% of the current top 15 in CFB that were OC's before becoming HC's. The majority still are their team's primary play callers. Defense is great and important in the grand scheme (see Lincoln Riley) but the vast majority of current HC's that are having success come from successful offensive coaching backgrounds.

Meanwhile, we hired an OL coach.
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We hired a fyzical OL coach*
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
OP is on the right track though. I’d amend it to this…

How many successful head coaches are there in college football that don’t have extensive success on either side of the ball?

Harbaugh? (cheating sob)
Dabo? (Had extensive experience working with WRs and called plays at times…not looking so hot right now)

Sam Pittman? Kirk Ferentz?

It’s a dying breed.
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Kirby and Saban only help coach DBs.
The last two coaches to win it all as OC:
Meyer and Jimbo.

There is just too much to do as a HBC to be full time game planner, play caller, head recruiter, head coach.

Last year:
sunny wasn’t OC
Harbaugh wasn’t OC
Kirby wasn’t DC
Ryan was OC

2021
Harbaugh wasnt OC
Saban wasnt DC
Kirby wasn’t DC
fickle wasn’t DC- likely a good example for a Mario like coach

I get it. We need more brains for our team and having the highest paid not being an XO expert hurts.
 
Where did Sorryirio get this Tuff and physical bull**** from? Didnt he play under Dennis who was more passing dominant.
 
90scane said:
Kirby and Saban only help coach DBs.
The last two coaches to win it all as OC:
Meyer and Jimbo.

There is just too much to do as a HBC to be full time game planner, play caller, head recruiter, head coach.

Last year:
sunny wasn’t OC
Harbaugh wasn’t OC
Kirby wasn’t DC
Ryan was OC

2021
Harbaugh wasnt OC
Saban wasnt DC
Kirby wasn’t DC
fickle wasn’t DC- likely a good example for a Mario like coach

I get it. We need more brains for our team and having the highest paid not being an XO expert hurts.
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Uhh…Kirby called Bama’s defense for eight years. Saban’s been a DC. They both are influential in play calls, c’mon lol.
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
OP is on the right track though. I’d amend it to this…

How many successful head coaches are there in college football that don’t have extensive success on either side of the ball?

Harbaugh? (cheating sob)
Dabo? (Had extensive experience working with WRs and called plays at times…not looking so hot right now)

Sam Pittman? Kirk Ferentz?

It’s a dying breed.
Click to expand...

This. You need a head coach who can own one side of the ball. Hiring really good coordinators isn't easy. You're going to have some hits and some misses. That goes for all head coaches. If you are an expert on one side of the ball, you only need to hit on one coordinator hire. But if you are like Mario, you have to hit on 2 hires, making it twice as hard and twice as unlikely to nail the hires. It's really a massive disadvantage.
 
JZCane0825 said:
Harbaugh
Ryan Day
Norvell
Kalen DeBoar
Sark
James Franklin
Lane
Jeff Brohm
Jonathan Stewart
Heupel
Gundy

That's nearly 75% of the current top 15 in CFB that were OC's before becoming HC's. The majority still are their team's primary play callers. Defense is great and important in the grand scheme (see Lincoln Riley) but the vast majority of current HC's that are having success come from successful offensive coaching backgrounds.

Meanwhile, we hired an OL coach.
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Yeah, but we guaranteed him $80 Million
 
JZCane0825 said:
Harbaugh
Ryan Day
Norvell
Kalen DeBoar
Sark
James Franklin
Lane
Jeff Brohm
Jonathan Stewart
Heupel
Gundy

That's nearly 75% of the current top 15 in CFB that were OC's before becoming HC's. The majority still are their team's primary play callers. Defense is great and important in the grand scheme (see Lincoln Riley) but the vast majority of current HC's that are having success come from successful offensive coaching backgrounds.

Meanwhile, we hired an OL coach.
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jimmy johnson was a d-coordinator for all of one season (at Pitt) before he became a head coach and never looked back
jim harbaugh was never a coordinator at any level of football
neither was ed orgeron
don shula was a DC for (barely) one season before he took over the head job with the colts, and went on to be the winningest coach in NFL history

one has nothing to do with the other
 
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90scane said:
Kirby and Saban only help coach DBs.
The last two coaches to win it all as OC:
Meyer and Jimbo.

There is just too much to do as a HBC to be full time game planner, play caller, head recruiter, head coach.

Last year:
sunny wasn’t OC
Harbaugh wasn’t OC
Kirby wasn’t DC
Ryan was OC

2021
Harbaugh wasnt OC
Saban wasnt DC
Kirby wasn’t DC
fickle wasn’t DC- likely a good example for a Mario like coach

I get it. We need more brains for our team and having the highest paid not being an XO expert hurts.
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Urban Meyer was never a oc. Only a wr coach and he didn't call plays as head coach either
 
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