Coaching What Are Your General Expectations Under Mario Cristobal?

[NC_Canes_11]

I expect a repeat of the last 3 years. Endless excuses and revisionist history.

Year 1: Mario says this isn’t a rebuild then misses a bowl game and says it’s a rebuild. Y’all agree

Year 2: Mario proves he’s an awful gameday HC and everyone reverts back to its a rebuild and 7-5 is progress.

Year 3: “All in” ACC title and playoff or bust. 2 inexcusable losses and all of the sudden everyone is happy with 10 wins

Year 4: Better DC and a much better and complete roster. This is the year it’s all put together, no excuses. Soon y’all will claim “back to back 10 win season is progress. We didn’t need playoffs and ACC title yet. Mario got this.”

 

[canester95]

Each season, end of season…are we better than last year. That’s kind of it for me.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

I'm not a Mario fan in the least but let's step back from the ledge. * lost a 3 point game at home to a mediocre Michigan team last year and the entire fanbase wanted Ryan Day to be fired on the spot and he was hoisting the national championship trophy 6 weeks later.

That being said 6-7

Very few have voted to fire him, so I don’t think anyone is really at that stage. Agreed though, 6-7 was my vote.

That being said, Ryan Day is also 76-10 in conference games. Mario is 14-13 in the ACC. They’re not even in the same stratosphere.

One has an issue against one specific team, the other loses routinely to a myriad of lesser-ranked and less-talented opponents.

 

[DC3]

I’d put myself at a 7.5. Mario will have us competing routinely for CFP and ACCCG.

Really I look at us like Penn State under Franklin

 

[HurricanesR1]

****Full Selection Choices for some context****

• Trust Lvl 10: I still expect 1+ National Championships out of MC and an era of dominance
• 8-9: Mario will have us competing routinely in the playoffs and winning multiple conference championships before his tenure is over
• 6-7: Mario will occasionally make CFP and have us near the top of the ACC (including winning a conference championship or two), while maintaining a talented roster. However, we’ll still be left wanting more from our teams and some years, wondering “what-if”.
• 3-5: Mario might luck his way into relevancy once every four-ish years to prolong his future here, but he’ll rarely have us in the CFP or ACCCG and ultimately be the main reason this team never achieves its full potential.
• 2-0: I have given up hope and believe Mario must be fired, scratch the whole operation.

First off, I’m not here to pick fights or say the mopes were right. No one has been proven right, and that’s precisely why the gloating and parading of results through less than half a season is stupid and futile. A lot of you look dumb right now - just like people did last year, and the year before that.

Never forget this is the long game, this the war most people knew we signed up for. Highs and lows, massive wins and mind-numbing defeats. And yet, everything still sits in front of us, within reach…albeit with seismic adjustments required.

It’s hard to quantify groups, but I want to gauge the public’s opinion on our Head Coach midway through Year 4. I think the timing is ideal, as we’ve been smacked back to reality…while technically still in control of some preseason expectations + in possession of a talented roster. Obviously the current temperature of the board won’t see it, but I still believe at 11-1…even with no ACCCG appearance, is good enough to at least make the playoff. No margin for error, however. Not one ounce of it - we have to win, and we have to look good doing it.

I’ve seen some interesting comments thrown around in various threads, truthfully on both extremes - from “Mario deserves no blame, he didn’t throw the interceptions tonight” to “fire him”.

If your opinion has changed on Mario, I welcome anyone to expound upon why. If anyone still believes in him to the highest level, fair game to elaborate. I won’t blame you. You want him gone, you think he’s our James Franklin or UGA version of Mark Richt? Fine by me, go for it. How long are you giving Mario before your opinion becomes more solidified? Are you giving him more time at all? Is this year, specifically, your boiling point? Was this game your boiling point?

Genuinely curious where the board sits, especially the manner in which we lost yesterday. I look forward to the responses, appreciate it in advance. Go Canes.

9-3 / 10-2 type of team that will lose to far inferior opponents, make a conf title here and there but we'll never win a cfb championship. He will always get outcoached when facing elite teams.

 

[919cane]

Very few have voted to fire him, so I don’t think anyone is really at that stage. Agreed though, 6-7 was my vote.

That being said, Ryan Day is also 76-10 in conference games. Mario is 14-13 in the ACC. They’re not even in the same stratosphere.

One has an issue against one specific team, the other loses routinely to a myriad of lesser-ranked and less-talented opponents.

Ryan Day took over a Lambo from Urban Meyer. Mario took over a pinto from Manny Diaz.

/Why the **** am I defending Mario? I hate that dude lmao.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

Ryan Day took over a Lambo from Urban Meyer. Mario took over a pinto from Manny Diaz.

That’s a great point if we weren’t 3.5 years in. These are all his players, his staff, his coaching.

Mario has the Lambo of the ACC, and is still finding ways to lose races to people’s pinto’s.

The Manny excuses in 2025 are flat out embarrassing.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

that'd also mean OC1.0, OC2.0, DC1.0, DC2.0 all busts and we're a year (or maybe just the 2nd half of this one) away from adding Hetherman to the list.

The only thing that ****ed me off about the defense last night was having your corners start bailing pre-snap when Louisville was getting the ball out on first reads within 2 seconds to negate our pass rush. That combination makes no sense to me from a defensive perspective.

 

[TriStarCane]

I’m fading a 6. When we have such a prorfound schematic disadvantage every week we will never win unless we have 11 Malis and 11 Bains every year. Last night was a perfect example. Brohm had us scouting and schemed on offense: quick crosses to a guy we can’t cover in man and quick stops because we don’t want to give up shots on offense. He cut with the OL. He chipped with backs. He got his guys the ball in a variety of ways. No bigger indicator than the 3rd and 10 run call where we over loaded the line. He saw it and exploited it.

On defense they played a 3/4 that almost looked like a 50 front. Took away the A gap. Dropped guys into zones to where we normally run routes. Had his corners trigger quickly on screens. We looked like a pop warner team

Name the adjustment or scouting advantage we took last night? Or in any game in his tenure? Hard to find

 

[P-Tizzle]

****Full Selection Choices for some context****

• Trust Lvl 10: I still expect 1+ National Championships out of MC and an era of dominance
• 8-9: Mario will have us competing routinely in the playoffs and winning multiple conference championships before his tenure is over
• 6-7: Mario will occasionally make CFP and have us near the top of the ACC (including winning a conference championship or two), while maintaining a talented roster. However, we’ll still be left wanting more from our teams and some years, wondering “what-if”.
• 3-5: Mario might luck his way into relevancy once every four-ish years to prolong his future here, but he’ll rarely have us in the CFP or ACCCG and ultimately be the main reason this team never achieves its full potential.
• 2-0: I have given up hope and believe Mario must be fired, scratch the whole operation.

First off, I’m not here to pick fights or say the mopes were right. No one has been proven right, and that’s precisely why the gloating and parading of results through less than half a season is stupid and futile. A lot of you look dumb right now - just like people did last year, and the year before that.

Never forget this is the long game, this the war most people knew we signed up for. Highs and lows, massive wins and mind-numbing defeats. And yet, everything still sits in front of us, within reach…albeit with seismic adjustments required.

It’s hard to quantify groups, but I want to gauge the public’s opinion on our Head Coach midway through Year 4. I think the timing is ideal, as we’ve been smacked back to reality…while technically still in control of some preseason expectations + in possession of a talented roster. Obviously the current temperature of the board won’t see it, but I still believe at 11-1…even with no ACCCG appearance, is good enough to at least make the playoff. No margin for error, however. Not one ounce of it - we have to win, and we have to look good doing it.

I’ve seen some interesting comments thrown around in various threads, truthfully on both extremes - from “Mario deserves no blame, he didn’t throw the interceptions tonight” to “fire him”.

If your opinion has changed on Mario, I welcome anyone to expound upon why. If anyone still believes in him to the highest level, fair game to elaborate. I won’t blame you. You want him gone, you think he’s our James Franklin or UGA version of Mark Richt? Fine by me, go for it. How long are you giving Mario before your opinion becomes more solidified? Are you giving him more time at all? Is this year, specifically, your boiling point? Was this game your boiling point?

Genuinely curious where the board sits, especially the manner in which we lost yesterday. I look forward to the responses, appreciate it in advance. Go Canes.

“I’m not here to pick fights or say mopes are right…..BUT….im going to belittle the non-mopes and those who don’t hold to my opinion of Mario and Miami football”.

this **** is rich lol

 

[FuriousStyles]

Is this us too?

 

[Allabouttheu95]

Given the resources being poured into the program. I mean pouring like lava with big boy money/power people … and the fact that Mario is the de facto Athletic director, and one could argue school president in some regards, there should not be a world where we are below a 6….

But unfortunately we are and the answer is the same old **** different day 3-5 revolving door of mediocre coaches we’ve had with GIGANTIC character and or coaching flaws. Mario ultimately has both

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

Perpetually underachieving.

That’s one thing that is guaranteed

 

[GonzoCane]

I’m at 5.5

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

“I’m not here to pick fights or say mopes are right…..BUT….im going to belittle the non-mopes and those who don’t hold to my opinion of Mario and Miami football”.

this **** is rich lol

Where did I belittle anyone or say their opinion was wrong, pastor?

 

[P-Tizzle]

Where did I belittle anyone or say their opinion was wrong, pastor?

You said, “First off, I’m not here to pick fights or say the mopes were right. No one has been proven right, and that’s precisely why the gloating and parading of results through less than half a season is stupid and futile. A lot of you look dumb right now - just like people did last year, and the year before that”.

Which fans here on the board were “gloating”, “looking stupid”, and “look dumb right now”?

When you wrote that, who did you have in mind? The “mopes” or those who don’t’ mope?

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

You said, “First off, I’m not here to pick fights or say the mopes were right. No one has been proven right, and that’s precisely why the gloating and parading of results through less than half a season is stupid and futile. A lot of you look dumb right now - just like people did last year, and the year before that”.

Which fans here on the board were “gloating”, “looking stupid”, and “look dumb right now”?

When you wrote that, who did you have in mind? The “mopes” or those who don’t’ mope?

I mean those are all just facts. The faction of fans that look stupid, the ones that haven’t showed their face since last night’s game - I encourage you to go look at their post history. Prominent posters that will be back after we beat Stanford as a 28-pt fave next week and say everything is back to normal.

Ain’t no fun when the rabbit has the gun.

And for the record, I voted 6-7 still. It’s public info at the top. If I was a true mope, I would have voted much lower.

 

[P-Tizzle]

I mean those are all just facts. The faction of fans that look stupid, the ones that haven’t showed their face since last night’s game - I encourage you to go look at their post history. Prominent posters that will be back after we beat Stanford as a 28-pt fave next week and say everything is back to normal.

Ain’t no fun when the rabbit has the gun.

And for the record, I voted 6-7 still. It’s public info at the top. If I was a true mope, I would have voted much lower.

So the mopes are right, you just won’t say it explicitly, but from the context of your post, that’s what it seems you are implying

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

So the mopes are right, you just won’t say it explicitly, but from the context of your post, that’s what it seems you are implying

No not necessarily. The mopes were only right about the early victory lapping - which to me is just common sense.

No one is right about the outcome of Mario’s tenure because it’s still ongoing and there are plenty of games + time to rectify shortcomings. Not to get all cute or whatever, but this is a much longer timeline.

The only things that you can say are true are the premature victory-lapping year over year, and data points from his results here thus far. The rest remains to be seen.

 

[P-Tizzle]

No not necessarily. The mopes were only right about the early victory lapping - which to me is just common sense.

No one is right about the outcome of Mario’s tenure because it’s still ongoing and there are plenty of games + time to rectify shortcomings. Not to get all cute or whatever, but this is a much longer timeline.

The only things that you can say are true are the premature victory-lapping year over year, and data points from his results here thus far. The rest remains to be seen.

I get that and I firmly agree, but calling ppl dumb in the same post where you say “no one is right or wrong” seems a bit like you’re taking sides. But what do I know?