What are Herman and Fuente

[deleted3746]

Brady Hoke went 12-1 at Ball State and 9-4 at San Diego State. Imagine what he would do with Power 5 talent.......

Is Hoke an offensive coach like Herman and Fuente, or is he a defensive coach like Golden?

So only offensive coaches can make the jump. Got it. Like the massive success that Gus Malzahn is having without Cam Newton.

You brought up Hoke who is a defensive coach. Not me. Now you're bringing up Malzahn. Make up your mind.

 

[deleted3746]

Golden won 9 games at a program that was 1-11 three years earlier. Herman is winning 10 games at a program that went 13-1 three years earlier. Herman isn't exactly resurrecting North Texas.

The AAC is better than the MAC.

Which is why Herman has a lot more talent to work with.

Is Herman doing that with his players?

So what you're saying is that you have NO IDEA if Herman can evaluate talent or recruit

Look at the players he recruited and developed at Ohio St. He can recruit and develop.

 

[deleted3746]

Lmao at the OP. You're trying so hard to discredit Herman and Fuente by comparing them to Golden....you're failing miserably.

 

[nwFL Griz]

I agree Herman's HC sample size increases the risk.
But as Franchise put it he can potentially have the biggest upside. His carrer path would certainly suggest that. (Before someone brings up Golden's career path remember a Golden was never a cordinator at a major program)
It would be a ballsy hire.

False. Golden was DC at UVa, 2001-2005.

 

[Consigliere]

Who are your choices for HC?

 

[CaneandAbel]

Herman has 10 wins in his first season. Has Golden ever won 10 games?

Fuente has a 10 win season, a conference title, and a bowl win. Does Golden have any of that?

Got anymore brain busters OP?

Golden won 9 games at a program that was 1-11 three years earlier. Herman is winning 10 games at a program that went 13-1 three years earlier. Herman isn't exactly resurrecting North Texas.

Why change the numbers of the years Houston went 13-1 5 years go with Kevin Sumlin, nothing about the Houston team is the same. After Sumlin left they went 5-7, 8-5, 8-5. You forget to mention that 1-11 Temple team was a first year Al Golden team and after 4 years he was 19-29. This is a Tom Hermans first year with Houston and they're 10-0. Also I see a whole alot of people praising Harbaugh for making this Michigan team good again his first year even though they have top talent. So why does it matter if Houston wasn't the worst team in their conference before Herman

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Herman has 10 wins in his first season. Has Golden ever won 10 games?

Fuente has a 10 win season, a conference title, and a bowl win. Does Golden have any of that?

Got anymore brain busters OP?

Golden won 9 games at a program that was 1-11 three years earlier. Herman is winning 10 games at a program that went 13-1 three years earlier. Herman isn't exactly resurrecting North Texas.

Houston lost five last year. What does three years ago matter?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Herman has 10 wins in his first season. Has Golden ever won 10 games?

Fuente has a 10 win season, a conference title, and a bowl win. Does Golden have any of that?

Got anymore brain busters OP?

Golden won 9 games at a program that was 1-11 three years earlier. Herman is winning 10 games at a program that went 13-1 three years earlier. Herman isn't exactly resurrecting North Texas.

Houston lost five last year. What does three years ago matter?

It shows that the Houston program has been churning along pretty well for a while. Herman isn't coaching at Wyoming.

 

[duke4heisman]

The AAC is better than the MAC.

Which is why Herman has a lot more talent to work with.

Is Herman doing that with his players?

So what you're saying is that you have NO IDEA if Herman can evaluate talent or recruit

Look at the players he recruited and developed at Ohio St. He can recruit and develop.

Urban Meyer

 

[NVA CANE]

Herman has 10 wins in his first season. Has Golden ever won 10 games?

Fuente has a 10 win season, a conference title, and a bowl win. Does Golden have any of that?

Got anymore brain busters OP?

Golden won 9 games at a program that was 1-11 three years earlier. Herman is winning 10 games at a program that went 13-1 three years earlier. Herman isn't exactly resurrecting North Texas.

Houston lost five last year. What does three years ago matter?

It shows that the Houston program has been churning along pretty well for a while. Herman isn't coaching at Wyoming.

If he had lost a couple games you would have a point. He took over an 8-5 team and is currently undefeated. Any way you slice it, that's impressive.

As for Hoke, look at how many years it took him to turn things around. By year 4 or 5 he finally broke double digit wins. Very similar to what golden did. There's no comparison. As for Fuente, he won 10 last year and is on his way to 9 or 10 this year.

Both are solid coaches. You guys keep trying to knock other options down but there's no sure thing. Even Butch brings in a lot of risks

 

[bxcanesbomber]

Houston Football Mic'd Up: Tom Herman - YouTube golden will never be this guy

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

If he had lost a couple games you would have a point. He took over an 8-5 team and is currently undefeated. Any way you slice it, that's impressive.

As for Hoke, look at how many years it took him to turn things around. By year 4 or 5 he finally broke double digit wins. Very similar to what golden did. There's no comparison. As for Fuente, he won 10 last year and is on his way to 9 or 10 this year.

Both are solid coaches. You guys keep trying to knock other options down but there's no sure thing. Even Butch brings in a lot of risks

And as Hoke showed at Michigan, sometimes the roster is prime for having a big turnaround right away. That's what is happening at Houston. The roster and schedule were set up very nicely. Larry Fedora is another great example. He didn't hit up a bunch of coaching clinics since last December. His 6-7 team brought back some nice experience and they are having a good year. Want to bet that they take a huge step backwards next year when they are running inexperienced kids back out there again?

 

[jkaz1]

Do your own research and present it.

Or you can continue to post largely thoughtless, formless ones such as the one below....

What are their records as head coaches against teams that finished in the top 25?

Another Golden?

I'll hang up and listen

 

[RocketsandCanes]

Herman has 10 wins in his first season. Has Golden ever won 10 games?

Fuente has a 10 win season, a conference title, and a bowl win. Does Golden have any of that?

Got anymore brain busters OP?

Dodging the question

Nice smoke screen

It's a stupid question regarding Herman since it's his first year. So it's not even possible to answer you dip****.

 

[Rellyrell]

Herman has 10 wins in his first season. Has Golden ever won 10 games?

Fuente has a 10 win season, a conference title, and a bowl win. Does Golden have any of that?

Got anymore brain busters OP?

Golden won 9 games at a program that was 1-11 three years earlier. Herman is winning 10 games at a program that went 13-1 three years earlier. Herman isn't exactly resurrecting North Texas.

Nice post.

 

[RocketsandCanes]

Golden won 9 games at a program that was 1-11 three years earlier. Herman is winning 10 games at a program that went 13-1 three years earlier. Herman isn't exactly resurrecting North Texas.

The AAC is better than the MAC.

Which is why Herman has a lot more talent to work with.

Is Herman doing that with his players?

So what you're saying is that you have NO IDEA if Herman can evaluate talent or recruit

Houston's recruiting class was ranked 91 last year. This year it's 32. So I think he's doing just fine on that front. No one is saying Herman is a full proof plan, but comparing him to Golden is ludicrous.

 

[Cans4life]

OP is Brain Dead.

 

[TriStarCane]

Here is the list of coaches with winning records vs Top 25 as of the end of 2014 season:
1. Saban: 50-35
2. Malzahn: 5-3
3. Jimbo: 9-5
4. Richt: 34-31
5. Miles: 40-31
6. Kelly: 15-11
7. Urban: 25-12
8. B. Stoops: 50-23
9. Shaw: 14-4
10. Sumlin: 8-7

That's the entire list. 10 coaches out of how many? Y'all act like it's so incredibly easy to win vs Top 25 teams. 10 coaches have winning records. 10! Who knows if Herman or Fuente can do it? Not many coaches do! Have some context before you say stupid ****.

 

[User-4525]

I think the success rate for coaches who have started a season 10-0 is very high. Probably above 70%.

Top of my head

Sucesses: Saban, Urban, Les Miles, Gary Patterson, Jimbo Fisher, Pete Carroll, Kyle Whittingham, Bob Stoops, Mac Brown, Jim Tressell, Chip Kelly
Failures: Gene Chizik, Tommy T., Larry Coker
TBD: Chris Peterson

if you go 10-0 at any d1 school, odds are that you are an ELITE coach

 

[MIATL]

Here is the list of coaches with winning records vs Top 25 as of the end of 2014 season:
1. Saban: 50-35
2. Malzahn: 5-3
3. Jimbo: 9-5
4. Richt: 34-31
5. Miles: 40-31
6. Kelly: 15-11
7. Urban: 25-12
8. B. Stoops: 50-23
9. Shaw: 14-4
10. Sumlin: 8-7

That's the entire list. 10 coaches out of how many? Y'all act like it's so incredibly easy to win vs Top 25 teams. 10 coaches have winning records. 10! Who knows if Herman or Fuente can do it? Not many coaches do! Have some context before you say stupid ****.

How can that be?

People on this board keep telling me Richt and Sumlin are bad and overrated coaches ...