Well that's weird...

[Loose Cannon]

So, Rosier not only knows who to win, he actually has really good numbers too? Next thing you know he will be winning game with last second drives.

If he was a 62% passer like Jackson we likely wouldn't have to win games at the end.

You do know that 5%, the difference between 57% and 62%, is only one additional completion in every twenty attempts. Not that 57% is Godly by any stretch, but at Rosier's average of around 27 to 35 attempts a game, we're talking about 1.5 additional completions. That's a pretty thin margin to hang your hat on.

On the other hand, one less completion in at least two games would have resulted in a loss. So there is something to be said.

 

[Loose Cannon]

So, Rosier not only knows who to win, he actually has really good numbers too? Next thing you know he will be winning game with last second drives.

If he was a 62% passer like Jackson we likely wouldn't have to win games at the end.

Why god why were you unbanned?

He wasn't banned for failure to make a valid argument. He was banned, and rightfully so, for spam posting his arguments. Let's hope he's learned from that. I have disagreed with him more often than can be considered healthy for any normal human, but as long as he considers my argument in whole and responds in kind, I'll never support the silencing of any voice.

 

[jhtheking]

Why god why were you unbanned?

Thatta boy!

In the face of differing opinions and/or information just whine about why said person isn't still banned so you don't have to encounter it.

Nah you'll just never concede a point even if you're wrong in some aspects or if the topic is subjective, and you'll focus your energy like crazy into making your point, responding multiple times to the same post and not letting things die. So essentially you're real annoying to argue with, and I've only seen you argue relentlessly. Maybe you post positive things sometimes but I haven't seen it. Everyone else is always wrong; why don't they ever see your points? How about you post some positive stuff for once instead of arguing. It's not worth the effort trying to prove you wrong because you'll never concede, so I'll just mock you instead.

 

[Gatorhater]

So, Rosier not only knows who to win, he actually has really good numbers too? Next thing you know he will be winning game with last second drives.

If he was a 62% passer like Jackson we likely wouldn't have to win games at the end.

Why god why were you unbanned?

He wasn't banned for failure to make a valid argument. He was banned, and rightfully so, for spam posting his arguments. Let's hope he's learned from that. I have disagreed with him more often than can be considered healthy for any normal human, but as long as he considers my argument in whole and responds in kind, I'll never support the silencing of any voice.

Wait, Doppy got banned? Who else provides as hours for reading mindless crap about the rest of us own mindless crap. I personally enjoy the compulsory insult to intellect. He forgot it in his initial reply on this one and my feelings are hurt and I feel cheated. It's like his heart just wasn't into it.

 

[Doppelganger]

You do know that 5%, the difference between 57% and 62%, is only one additional completion in every twenty attempts. Not that 57% is Godly by any stretch, but at Rosier's average of around 27 to 35 attempts a game, we're talking about 1.5 additional completions. That's a pretty thin margin to hang your hat on.

5% is the difference between being drafted and undrafted.

10% is the difference between a first round pick (Winston) and undrafted.

It's a game of thin margins.

 

[Doppelganger]

He wasn't banned for failure to make a valid argument. He was banned, and rightfully so, for spam posting his arguments.

Wrong as usual.

I was banned for "derailing" threads which is a laughable claim and one that not a single moderator could support.

The amount of pantywaists calling for my banning is proof positive that I'm winning.

 

[Doppelganger]

Nah you'll just never concede a point even if you're wrong in some aspects or if the topic is subjective, and you'll focus your energy like crazy into making your point, responding multiple times to the same post and not letting things die.

No, I'll never concede a point that was argued poorly and/or has no basis in fact.

If you were competent enough maybe I'd consider a different opinion.

 

[Doppelganger]

So essentially you're real annoying to argue with, and I've only seen you argue relentlessly.

Because I'm making people uncomfortable on their preconceived notions.

Also, this board is full of cliche fanboy-speak and so therefore anything outside of that requires an argument.

 

[Doppelganger]

Everyone else is always wrong; why don't they ever see your points?

Again, it's not my job to concede points to other people just to be nice.

You have to realize at some point that the people who frequent this board are mostly beer-bellied, cliche-speaking clowns who don't know what they're talking about.

 

[Doppelganger]

It's not worth the effort trying to prove you wrong because you'll never concede, so I'll just mock you instead.

No, you're just not capable.

Stop trying to pretend that you're being above it all.

Nonsense.

You just can't.

 

[jhtheking]

Everyone else is always wrong; why don't they ever see your points?

Again, it's not my job to concede points to other people just to be nice.

You have to realize at some point that the people who frequent this board are mostly beer-bellied, cliche-speaking clowns who don't know what they're talking about.

Did you just describe yourself?

 

[Doppelganger]

Did you just describe yourself?

No, the people I'm critiquing.

But, again, you're not even remotely clever.

That's why I'm not guessing that you're incapable of debating. I know you are.

 

[Loose Cannon]

You do know that 5%, the difference between 57% and 62%, is only one additional completion in every twenty attempts. Not that 57% is Godly by any stretch, but at Rosier's average of around 27 to 35 attempts a game, we're talking about 1.5 additional completions. That's a pretty thin margin to hang your hat on.

5% is the difference between being drafted and undrafted.

10% is the difference between a first round pick (Winston) and undrafted.

It's a game of thin margins.

Way to completely dodge the argument by bringing up something entirely irrelevant. I'd like to see your supporting evidence that nobody with a completion percentage under 62% has ever been drafted.

 

[Loose Cannon]

You do know that 5%, the difference between 57% and 62%, is only one additional completion in every twenty attempts. Not that 57% is Godly by any stretch, but at Rosier's average of around 27 to 35 attempts a game, we're talking about 1.5 additional completions. That's a pretty thin margin to hang your hat on.

5% is the difference between being drafted and undrafted.

10% is the difference between a first round pick (Winston) and undrafted.

It's a game of thin margins.

Way to completely dodge the argument by bringing up something entirely irrelevant. I'd like to see your supporting evidence that nobody with a completion percentage under 62% has ever been drafted.

David Klinger, Andre Ware, Blane Gabbert, and how about a number three overall pick? Vince Young

 

[Doppelganger]

Way to completely dodge the argument by bringing up something entirely irrelevant.

How did I dodge the argument?

You said 5% is a tiny difference. I said it's not.

Amazing that you could come with that line as your first response.

 

[Doppelganger]

David Klinger, Andre Ware, Blane Gabbert, and how about a number three overall pick? Vince Young

Laughable argument.

First off, Ware and Klingler played 25+ years ago. A completely different era of football.

Today, if you're not a least a 60% passer you have almost no chance of being drafted.

Oh and Vince Young was a 62% career passer in college (and 65% his senior year).

You're clueless.

 

[ChosenOne]

If no one cared about the stats Kaaya had when he was here then why should I care about Rosier stats? Plus, I got eyeballs. Rosier ain't the goods long term. Gimme Jackson over Malik.

 

[Doppelganger]

Basically what we're getting from Rosier right now is Brad Kaaya's Freshman year.

Kaaya (Fr): 221 of 378 (58.5%), 3,198 yards, 8.5 YPA, 26 TD's, 12 INT's, 145.9 Efficiency Rating
Rosier (Jr): 143 of 252 (56.7%), 2,071 yards, 8.2 YPA, 17 TD's, 4 INT's, 144.9 Efficiency Rating

 

[jhtheking]

Did you just describe yourself?

No, the people I'm critiquing.

But, again, you're not even remotely clever.

That's why I'm not guessing that you're incapable of debating. I know you are.

Nice bro! No you're just DBCs brother or something. RIP DBC

 

[Loose Cannon]

Way to completely dodge the argument by bringing up something entirely irrelevant.

How did I dodge the argument?

You said 5% is a tiny difference. I said it's not.

Amazing that you could come with that line as your first response.

After your 7th audition with the band, you still can't figure out why you keep playing the meat flute. You refuse to debate the point and stay on the topic of the thread. You pull one line at a time out of context and argue it as if it was intended to stand on its own. You just did it to yourself. At no point in time did you ever make the statement that 5% was significant, nor did I ever state that it was not. You made a completely asinine comment that if Rosier completed 62% rather than 57% we wouldn't have to win games at the end. I correctly pointed out that that 5% difference was only 1.5 additional completions per game. A game being close in the end or not very rarely hinges on 1 or 2 pass attempts. If it's that close, other factors had to have been at play.

Then, true to form, you completely disregarded your original statement and doubled down on your stupidity by suggesting that 5%, the difference between 57 and 62%--you may chose to ignore the context and pretend that your statement of 5% stands on it's own rather than in direct response to my statement, was the difference between being drafted and not, and 10% being the difference between being a first rounder and not being drafted.

I asked you to reinforce that bull**** statement, when I should have just realized that the fact that you were again attempting to derail the argument meant that I had already won. So I offered examples of my own of QB's being drafted with completion percentages between 57 and 61.8, including a first round, no. 3 overall pick.

NOW you've seem to think you have a time machine that would allow you to go back and change your original argument. This is a prime example of you derailing a thread. The theme presented by OP was the statistical similarities between Jackson and Rosier. You tried to hijack the thread and be the smartest guy in the room by pointing to what amounts to a statistical anomaly on a per game basis. 1.5 pass attempts out of a sample size of 30-40 is not going to make or break a game, and that ratio over the course of a few seasons is not going to make or break a career. But you're seeming to suggest that it is the difference between Virginia Tech having an NFL QB and us having a JAG.

Next, you're going to take each line of the above out of context and spam my notification bar with irrelevant nonsense as if each line was presented independently rather than a complete body of work in response to your earlier bull****. Have at it cupcake. Be sure to tell the band director I said hi.