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We should have burned the RS on Perry this year....

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and I don't mean starting him or even causing a QB controversy. I mean giving him some snaps as the clear # 2 ahead of Sherriffs. A series per game in some( not all) games and some Victory formation kneel downs.

And yes ,I understand about him not being " ready" to run the offense, not knowing how to breakdown film, etc. I get it, and if Rosier had gone down I would have not started Perry for those reasons.


I do think that if he had gotten in some garbage time snaps in a few games( and I realize we didn't have many easy games where he could have gotten them) then come next year, if he is the starter, he at least has some snaps of experience come the season opener that isn't Bethune Cookman or FAMU, but rather LSU on the road. A raw , first time start with ZERO snaps Vs LSU isn't great for confidence( on National TV and on the road).

Further, IF he turns out to be a great QB, he starts 2 seasons and leaves anyway after his 3rd year. If he isn't a top shelf QB, someone else ( JW) ends up starting and the " saved" year isn't of any value.

So to me, the benefit of giving him a bit of game experience outweighs the gain of a 4rth year in the program that I think either (a) doesn't come to be because he's awesome and declares for the draft after his 3rd year , or (B) he stays here for his 4rth( or 5th) year but he's not the starter and has been bypassed by Williams, or others, on the depth chart.

The only reason to have shirted him is if we think he is going to be a 3 year starter which is a rarity in CFB these days.

So, while I get the RS idea, to me its not as valuableon skill position guys and is better suited for linemen that need the extra year to bulk up ,etc.
 
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The only reason to burn the RS is if it was the difference between winning the ACC or championship. He wasn't ready so that is out. 25-50 snaps over the course of the season is not worth it. Maybe he leaves early because of the development he received during the RS year, in which case, we benefited and got the best of him. Maybe he doesn't leave early and we get a badass for 3-4 years. Maybe we shake his confidence or get him hurt in a year where he needs to develop both mentally and physically which ultimately sets us behind.

Anyway you look at it, RS was the right call unless he was going to make a difference or get significant development through significant playing time.
 
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U2Cane said:
and I don't mean starting him or even causing a QB controversy. I mean giving him some snaps as the clear # 2 ahead of Sherriffs. A series per game in some( not all) games and some Victory formation kneel downs.

And yes ,I understand about him not being " ready" to run the offense, not knowing how to breakdown film, etc. I get it, and if Rosier had gone down I would have not started Perry for those reasons.


I do think that if he had gotten in some garbage time snaps in a few games( and I realize we didn't have many easy games where he could have gotten them) then come next year, if he is the starter, he at least has some snaps of experience come the season opener that isn't Bethune Cookman or FAMU, but rather LSU on the road. A raw , first time start with ZERO snaps Vs LSU isn't great for confidence( on National TV and on the road).

Further, IF he turns out to be a great QB, he starts 2 seasons and leaves anyway after his 3rd year. If he isn't a top shelf QB, someone else ( JW) ends up starting and the " saved" year isn't of any value.

So to me, the benefit of giving him a bit of game experience outweighs the gain of a 4rth year in the program that I think either (a) doesn't come to be because he's awesome and declares for the draft after his 3rd year , or (B) he stays here for his 4rth( or 5th) year but he's not the starter and has been bypassed by Williams, or others, on the depth chart.

The only reason to have shirted him is if we think he is going to be a 3 year starter which is a rarity in CFB these days.

So, while I get the RS idea, to me its not as valuableon skill position guys and is better suited for linemen that need the extra year to bulk up ,etc.
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tl;dr- "this is why i only have 40 posts despite having this account for 6 years"
 
Perry is not going to be a redshirt senior here so I don't see the benefit of having him redshirt is.
 
OP was doing such a good job of not posting and then this happens...
 
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U2Cane said:
and I don't mean starting him or even causing a QB controversy. I mean giving him some snaps as the clear # 2 ahead of Sherriffs. A series per game in some( not all) games and some Victory formation kneel downs.

And yes ,I understand about him not being " ready" to run the offense, not knowing how to breakdown film, etc. I get it, and if Rosier had gone down I would have not started Perry for those reasons.


I do think that if he had gotten in some garbage time snaps in a few games( and I realize we didn't have many easy games where he could have gotten them) then come next year, if he is the starter, he at least has some snaps of experience come the season opener that isn't Bethune Cookman or FAMU, but rather LSU on the road. A raw , first time start with ZERO snaps Vs LSU isn't great for confidence( on National TV and on the road).

Further, IF he turns out to be a great QB, he starts 2 seasons and leaves anyway after his 3rd year. If he isn't a top shelf QB, someone else ( JW) ends up starting and the " saved" year isn't of any value.

So to me, the benefit of giving him a bit of game experience outweighs the gain of a 4rth year in the program that I think either (a) doesn't come to be because he's awesome and declares for the draft after his 3rd year , or (B) he stays here for his 4rth( or 5th) year but he's not the starter and has been bypassed by Williams, or others, on the depth chart.

The only reason to have shirted him is if we think he is going to be a 3 year starter which is a rarity in CFB these days.

So, while I get the RS idea, to me its not as valuableon skill position guys and is better suited for linemen that need the extra year to bulk up ,etc.
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Is it too late to RS you?
 
Wow. Yes, because taking some kneel down snaps on the last series of games would get him ready for LSU.
We have the worst fans.
 
Not sure if you noticed, OP, but the #2 wasn't getting many reps because the starter couldn't get the team a decent enough lead for the backup to get reps. Perry was not ready this year, and buring his shirt for 10 snaps would have been pure idiocy.
 
I kind of see the point of the OP if we expect our players to leave after year three regardless of their draft prospects. Regardless, keep an under sized inexperienced kid off thefield if he is not ready. I hope Perry appreciates what Richt dod for him and doesn't bolt as soon as his draft status hits 6th round status!
 
Al, is that u? Stop porsting and find a job. Dem bills gotta get paid, son.
 
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You guys are a funny bunch. I don't have 2000 posts because:

a- I have a ( great ) life with well, a job and stuff like that....
b- I don't measure my self worth by how many times I post anonymously on some fan message board;
c- I dont troll football message boards looking for affirmation.

5x- Yes, getting snaps in real games would get him MORE ready( Never argued that it would get him FULLY READY) for LSU than NO snaps. Absurd to argue opposite. Only reason to RS is if you think you get a 4rth year from him which maybe we do , maybe we dont.

And I do know more football than most of the knuckleheads on this thread, and board. Even if I dont have 4000 posts to my resume.
 
U2Cane said:
You guys are a funny bunch. I don't have 2000 posts because:

a- I have a ( great ) life with well, a job and stuff like that....
b- I don't measure my self worth by how many times I post anonymously on some fan message board;
c- I dont troll football message boards looking for affirmation.

5x- Yes, getting snaps in real games would get him MORE ready( Never argued that it would get him FULLY READY) for LSU than NO snaps. Absurd to argue opposite. Only reason to RS is if you think you get a 4rth year from him which maybe we do , maybe we dont.

And I do know more football than most of the knuckleheads on this thread, and board. Even if I dont have 4000 posts to my resume.
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Guess we'll leave aside that Perry needs to put on more weight, didn't know the playbook (understandable since he got here in May) and you don't want to destroy his confidence by throwing him in too early.
 
In no way shape or form should we have burned Perry's redshirt, If the boy would have earned the job than fine but not some midseason burn. I also completely disagree that redshirting is for players staying 4-5yrs.
 
Redshirt issue is water under the bridge... now what's important is the QB competition this spring/summer so we can energize what was an anemic offense. Oh and can we invite Perry over for dinner sometimes... I'm not Bobby Flay but close. His 6'4" frame could use at least 20 more pounds.
 
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