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We only have 1 title in the last 26 years

All of this falls on Thad Foote as far as in concerned, he laid the basis of the way business is conducted today.
 
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Only a handful of teams have won more than 1 title in the last 26 years (bama, FSU, uf, clemson, usc) Miami should have another in the fiesta bowl but we know what happened. This isn’t saying much
 
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The Svengali said:
We only have one title since 92.

That’s one title in 26 years, and it could signal two things: 1. We were a flash in the pan program and 2. The program is truly dead and cannot/won’t ever return.
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It would mean we as fans need to temper expectations both on results on the field and hirings.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
UGA hasn't won one since 1980.

FSU has won 2 in the past 25 years.

Michigan has 1 championship since 1948.

Anyone saying those programs are dead? Hire a good coach, which is entirely feasible with the money allotted. Have him hire good assistants, which is MORE than feasible considering Enos is making a million dollars a year. Continue to recruit local talent. Pretty simple. Saying the program is dead or can never be good again is ludicrous.
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In order for us to hire a good coach, we have to stop hiring bad coaches & giving 4-5 years to ruin the program.

Our administration doesn't spend money at all, they're cheap ******** so we keep hiring bargain bin coaches who do nothing but set us back on the recruiting trail because they can't put a winning product on the field.

It starts with the people in charge, our Boosters don't give AF about the football program so they make it impossible to compete with the big dogs, then because the Universirty cares more about being the Harvard of Florida they put no effort whatsoever into improving the athletic department & leave all decisions up to a human sack of laundry in a guy like Blake James who's a complete ****** goober. Then he hires a bunch of sh*t Corches in a row & never holds them accountable for their failures, if it was up to that piece of garbage Al Folden would still be coaching here.

This is why people say we're dead, not because it's impossible for us to be resurrected with the correct coach, it's because the people in charge of actually hiring the right guy have displayed for over 20 ****** years now they have no capability to do so & the people who are supposed to be the financial backbone of the team do the bare minimum & leave us with no chance to truly compete.

We're not screwed because it can't be done, we're screwed because it won't be & the people with the power to change the program refuse to & see nothing wrong with the ineptitude & mediocrity that has been embedded in Miami for the last 2 decades.

Regime change at the top is our only hope... When do you see that happening?
 
hoops156 said:
its 1. small schools like miami will never truly compete wiht the bg time state programs with boatloads of alumni support and funds. once the game changed to big money, it ended our chances of being the old miami.
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Bingo....we are now relegated to hoping we catch lightning in a bottle in a single year.

Shalala took away the last opportunity we had to keep up in the nuclear arms race that exists now.....we carry a bazooka.

We show Butch we appreciate what he did and give him a measly $800k buyout, he sticks around longer and we do not become irrelevant so quick....but with her at the helm, it was going to happen at some point. She took our beautiful Porsche we worked so hard to rebuild, and drove it off a cliff.....now...it is like starting from scratch without the desire or resources to do it.
 
Being a small private school, our backs are up against the wall to begin with. We obviously don't have the resources the big state schools possess. That's why the run we had in the 80's and 90's was so incomprehensible. No one saw it coming. I surely didn't having been a Cane since the mid 60's.

It'll take another Schnelly, JJ or a true innovator to get us back to those glory days of the 80's and 90's.
 
The Svengali said:
We only have one title since 92.

That’s one title in 26 years, and it could signal two things: 1. We were a flash in the pan program and 2. The program is truly dead and cannot/won’t ever return.
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Only 9 teams have won a title since our last one...........but whatever
 
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I know a lot of people are in the mourning phase or whatever but I think it's time to step away from the ledge and quit the moping
 
Thommy30w said:
Does anyone remember when people said Alabama was dead? They were living in the past. No real fertile recruiting grounds had to recruit nationally? They hired Saban.
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They could afford to poach an NFL coach.
 
brock said:
Only a handful of teams have won more than 1 title in the last 26 years (bama, FSU, uf, clemson, usc) Miami should have another in the rose bowl but we know what happened. This isn’t saying much
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That's the Fiesta Bowl, but I understand your viewpoint.
 
Even more incredible is we are a couple of plays away from having zero titles since 1992.

Thank God for that batted ball INT at BC and Ernest Wilford’s dropped 2 pt conversion at VT.
 
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Liberty City El said:
In order for us to hire a good coach, we have to stop hiring bad coaches & giving 4-5 years to ruin the program.

Our administration doesn't spend money at all, they're cheap ******** so we keep hiring bargain bin coaches who do nothing but set us back on the recruiting trail because they can't put a winning product on the field.

It starts with the people in charge, our Boosters don't give AF about the football program so they make it impossible to compete with the big dogs, then because the Universirty cares more about being the Harvard of Florida they put no effort whatsoever into improving the athletic department & leave all decisions up to a human sack of laundry in a guy like Blake James who's a complete ****** goober. Then he hires a bunch of sh*t Corches in a row & never holds them accountable for their failures, if it was up to that piece of garbage Al Folden would still be coaching here.

This is why people say we're dead, not because it's impossible for us to be resurrected with the correct coach, it's because the people in charge of actually hiring the right guy have displayed for over 20 ****** years now they have no capability to do so & the people who are supposed to be the financial backbone of the team do the bare minimum & leave us with no chance to truly compete.

We're not screwed because it can't be done, we're screwed because it won't be & the people with the power to change the program refuse to & see nothing wrong with the ineptitude & mediocrity that has been embedded in Miami for the last 2 decades.

Regime change at the top is our only hope... When do you see that happening?
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Agree with most of that wholeheartedly. I will only add that the school/board/administration, whatever you want to call them, has shown a propensity to spend money, albeit just recently. For most of the past 20 years, you're 100000% correct. I've said for years during the Randy/Folden nightmare decade that I was afraid Miami would never be back, but due to their lack of interest in spending money. I don't think it's quite as bad anymore, though. We did just raise $27M+ for a new IPF within the last couple years. We did hire Mark Richt at a considerable price. Now, I'm not saying at all that the IPF pulls the facilities up to even par with the majority of our competition. Nor am I saying Richt was an incredibly inspiring hire. I'm only saying that the pockets have been reached into deeper *somewhat* than what we've seen in the past.

Another example is Enos. I never in my wildest dreams 5+ years ago thought I'd see Miami paying a coordinator $1M a year, but here we are. You can get a REALLY good coordinator for that amount of money. However, as you said (astutely I might add), ACTUALLY finding and hiring that guy is a different story. Enos sure as **** ain't it. But my point only was that the ability to do so is there. I do not believe Manny was a "budget hire", I just think he was a panicked hire by someone who shouldn't be in the position he's in if he's going to panic. So, while you can't drive the nail into the coffin just yet, it sure looks like it's on the road to being another poor decision. But I don't think it was money driven, to me it was more rushed because there was this fear of losing Manny after what the defense had done the previous 3 years. At this time last year, the sentiment was essentially "if we can just get a competent offense, we can easily win the Coastal and challenge for the playoffs". So, there was this idea that Manny had to be retained, come **** or high water. Again, probably ill advised and panicky, but I do not believe it was entirely money driven.

But to me, bottom line, you're correct, but my point still stands. You simply cannot say never. There is money being spent. It's not $EC money, it's not Top 20 money, but there is money allocated to hiring someone competent. And the talent base is never going to go away. There are certainly a lot of positives to come to Miami as a student-athlete, and to coach at Miami. But to answer your question, I honestly can't say. A lot of what you're saying is true, but my hope is that maybe the progression here continues in the future. To me, the administration got completely complacent in the early 2000s and just thought that no matter what, athletes would pour into Miami and we'd be a football power forever. When that proved to be untrue, I think most in power were unbothered. Oh well, we may not be what we were, but we're an academic institution and we have a pretty decent program. That continued through Randy and into Golden, but I do think a light went off somewhere because we went after Richt, we paid him handsomely, he had a nice pool for assistants (and picked his kid, of course), facilities were upgraded, etc. At least some attention was given to the problem. My hope now is that will continue. We increased spending, revenue from the ACC network is considerable, revenue from Adidas is considerable, booster donations obviously were considerable during the facilities upgrades, the new dorms, etc. Maybe if I pray real hard, the powers that be will continue along that path and accelerate down it even more. I'm not saying that's a certainty....far from it. But I also can't say it WON'T happen, either. So I'll continue to keep faith that at some point, Miami will conduct a real coaching search and bring in a smart, innovative leader. I don't think it has to be at a huge bargain anymore. Certainly not like I felt it did in the late 2000's/early 2010's. But we'll see......
 
The Svengali said:
We only have one title since 92.

That’s one title in 26 years, and it could signal two things: 1. We were a flash in the pan program and 2. The program is truly dead and cannot/won’t ever return.
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Before Dabo Swinney's unlikely ascension, Clemson went 35 years between their first and second national titles.

Georgia has dumped an assload of money into their program over the years. Hasn't won a national title in 39 years and counting.

For all their dominance, Ohio State has one national title in 49 years (2014) as the one the got in 2002 was stolen—while counterpart Michigan earned one split title (1997) over the past 69 season.

Notre Dame? One championship (1988) over the past 42 seasons—and only came as the result of a bullsh1t call in South Bend to topple No. 1 Miami.

None of that even touches on the amount of good programs out there who have never won a national championship—ever.


All this *signals* is that national championships are hard as **** to come by for most—and our entitled fan base fails to realize just how incredible it was for Miami to win five, have one stolen (2002), get snubbed out of a shot at another (2000), have another beat out of them (1992), **** one away (1986) and leave a few opps on the table, for a slew of different reasons (1985, 1988, 1990).

What Miami pulled off between 1983 and 2001 is nothing short of a miracle.

Anyone who thinks this was the standard—it wasn't even the standard then. It was stars aligned, while UM got on the map and the rest of college football took years to catch up.

It also shows what a miracle it was for Nick Saban to build the big money, dropped bags, crooked machine he put together in Tuscaloosa over the past dozen years—as a dynasty like that in the modern era is as big a miracle as Miami's past success.
 
Rellyrell said:
Context, context my guy.

Last championship was 92. Played for another championship in 93 (lost to Bama). 94 was a weird season, losing inexplicably to Washington, and then blowing that lead against Nebraska.

THEN Sanctions hit. Fell down, and Butch brought us back up w/in 5 yrs, finally culminating to a title in 01. We got screwed in 02 (although we beat ourselves in that game too, to be honest ((4th & 13!!!)) ).

Down hill since then as we’ve hired player’s coaches/inexperienced since 2000.

That’s y we have 1 championship in 26 yrs. If we dedicated ourselves to football, and football operations, we could easily take back the NCAA just b/c our built in natural resources. But this only happens once we hire the right coach who instills discipline and accountability again.
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And, a computer algorithm was allowed to keep Miami from an opportunity to play OU for the 2000 NC.
 
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