Watching the Bryce Young highlights

Watch the game and watch Georgia's D line and how the rush the QB. Maybe they were all having a bad game? Maybe they were all sick?

Then watch their Semi final game and how they rushed the QB,

Then finally watch the Championship game and see how they played.

They clearly had very little interest in that SEC championship game. Now perhaps they knew they were in and the game didnt matter to them? That's a didtinct possibility. Thus Bama benefitted from that.

Everything is always a possibility, it's naïve to think everything is on the up and up.
Alabama beat their *** in the title game when jamo was healthy. Ohio state beat their *** when Marvin Harrison was healthy this year. IGA stacked but they got lucky with injury to key players on other side.
 
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Agree and disagree. The system does allow them to shine bc reads/progressions are easier in that offense but Stroud has elite ball placement, which separates him from Haskins and Fields. That will benefit him in the pros where those throwing windows are tighter, as long as he has the confidence to put it in there. I think he does. He came out and competed at the combine when he didn’t have to and when other top 5 QBs don’t……and he shined.
There is no such thing as a system QB. It was a myth created to discredited Leach's air raid QB throwing for 7k yards per season. It was also assume QB's that came from pro systems didnt become busts. Mahomes is a system QB too apparently. If the QB got brains, he can instantly recognize not only offensive concepts but defensive concepts regardless of the system he is in.

Now if the QB is not good at throwing the ball then certain systems will work better for him because of the length of the throws he has to make etc. Thats a physical thing.
 
Agree and disagree. The system does allow them to shine bc reads/progressions are easier in that offense but Stroud has elite ball placement, which separates him from Haskins and Fields. That will benefit him in the pros where those throwing windows are tighter, as long as he has the confidence to put it in there. I think he does. He came out and competed at the combine when he didn’t have to and when other top 5 QBs don’t……and he shined.

Eh, Haskins shined at the combine when he came out and we all know how Fields blew people away with his pro day. We'll see. I'm sure Stroud is plenty capable, I'm just extra cautious on OSU kids coming out because of history.
 
All the commentators at the combine are showing Young’s highlights (given his size controversy).

It’s great watching #70 from Alabama stonewalling Georgia defenders. How Mario pulled this off I have no idea.


Can't wait until we start winning again and get a SEC type crowd on GameDay like when we played Notre Dame
 
Look at those throwing lanes .I believe this is the game Georgian DID NOT TRY so Bama would win and get into the playoff? Then they played in the Championship game and Georgia tried harder.

Young could be good? Could be a disaster? There are not many 5'10" QB's in the NFL that are successful. He could be Brees, or a Wilson or he could be the other numerous failed QB's. To be totally fair there have been a lot of "tall" QB's who have totally failed as well, I mean that's obvious. Where he goes will play a huge part, who coaches him will be key for his development.
Leaving height aside, I think the qbs who played on teams with a great o line and several nfl ready receivers are the hardest to get a read on. The combine doesn't tell you anything about brain processing speed either. NFL professionals get several years of tape, combine numbers and interviews and it still is a crapshoot.

Remember Winston vs Mariotta a few years ago. The correct answer turned out to be (C) Neither of them.
 
Eh, Haskins shined at the combine when he came out and we all know how Fields blew people away with his pro day. We'll see. I'm sure Stroud is plenty capable, I'm just extra cautious on OSU kids coming out because of history.
Haskins was in Meyer’s offense, right? Great year in college, but he had bust written all over him.
 
There is no such thing as a system QB. It was a myth created to discredited Leach's air raid QB throwing for 7k yards per season. It was also assume QB's that came from pro systems didnt become busts. Mahomes is a system QB too apparently. If the QB got brains, he can instantly recognize not only offensive concepts but defensive concepts regardless of the system he is in.

Now if the QB is not good at throwing the ball then certain systems will work better for him because of the length of the throws he has to make etc. Thats a physical thing.
Offensive Football existed BEFORE Mike Leach and it would behoove some to understand that. The whole "System QB" thing really started when collegiate offenses started getting diversified back in the eighties. You had the BYUs and Houstons, schools that were cranking out QBs that put up huge numbers, but in the case of David Klingler and Andre Ware, they were unmitigated busts.

The difference between BYU with Jim McMahon/Steve Young and Houston with Ware/Klingler is that BYU's guys had the actual physical talent to succeed in the NFL, while Ware and Klingler's flaws were hidden by the scheme. Ware had arm talent, wasn't accurate, wasn't a great processor of the game. Klingler, outside of being drafted by the Bengals was a guy that took far too long to get rid of the ball and didn't throw with anticipation. Go look at Mike Leach's QBs over the years, there's a reason NONE of them ever succeeded at the next level, most couldn't even last past their first training camp. They usually had decent physical tools, were higher end mentally but in the NFL, marginal arm talent loses you football games more often than not. Guys like Lincoln Riley have done better with their guys, but you can argue that their offenses are a lot more balanced than Leach's ever were and that those QBs are better prepared for the pro game.

There are other schools whose scheme benefits a specific position group and personnel departments are wary of those guys, because of the fact that you get more busts than stars. Penn State tailbacks in the 80s and 90s were running behind pro offensive lines at the college level, most of them fell apart once those giant holes disappeared. There's a reason why Larry Johnson slid in the draft, people saw him and thought he was another Curtis Enis or Blair Thomas(I refuse to put Ki-jana Carter there, he was consistently injured). Wisconsin is similar in having highly productive tailbacks not be the same at the next level. Michigan State had a little run of linebackers in the 90s that were highly touted, and most of them busted out, mostly because people realized that if you were a good LB in that system, you would get plays funneled to you, so your tackle numbers would be inflated.
 
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All the commentators at the combine are showing Young’s highlights (given his size controversy).

It’s great watching #70 from Alabama stonewalling Georgia defenders. How Mario pulled this off I have no idea.


You have no idea? Saban has said publicly the kid wanted a lot of money and his gf’s law school paid
 
Offensive Football existed BEFORE Mike Leach and it would behoove some to understand that. The whole "System QB" thing really started when collegiate offenses started getting diversified back in the eighties. You had the BYUs and Houstons, schools that were cranking out QBs that put up huge numbers, but in the case of David Klingler and Andre Ware, they were unmitigated busts.

The difference between BYU with Jim McMahon/Steve Young and Houston with Ware/Klingler is that BYU's guys had the actual physical talent to succeed in the NFL, while Ware and Klingler's flaws were hidden by the scheme. Ware had arm talent, wasn't accurate, wasn't a great processor of the game. Klingler, outside of being drafted by the Bengals was a guy that took far too long to get rid of the ball and didn't throw with anticipation. Go look at Mike Leach's QBs over the years, there's a reason NONE of them ever succeeded at the next level, most couldn't even last past their first training camp. They usually had decent physical tools, were higher end mentally but in the NFL, marginal arm talent loses you football games more often than not. Guys like Lincoln Riley have done better with their guys, but you can argue that their offenses are a lot more balanced than Leach's ever were and that those QBs are better prepared for the pro game.

There are other schools whose scheme benefits a specific position group and personnel departments are wary of those guys, because of the fact that you get more busts than stars. Penn State tailbacks in the 80s and 90s were running behind pro offensive lines at the college level, most of them fell apart once those giant holes disappeared. There's a reason why Larry Johnson slid in the draft, people saw him and thought he was another Curtis Enis or Blair Thomas(I refuse to put Ki-jana Carter there, he was consistently injured). Wisconsin is similar in having highly productive tailbacks not be the same at the next level. Michigan State had a little run of linebackers in the 90s that were highly touted, and most of them busted out, mostly because people realized that if you were a good LB in that system, you would get plays funneled to you, so your tackle numbers would be inflated.

To be fair to Leach, none of His QBs were 1st Rd. picks, whereas USC, with the exception of Palmer, were cranking out 1st Rd. busts.
 
To be fair to Leach, none of His QBs were 1st Rd. picks, whereas USC, with the exception of Palmer, were cranking out 1st Rd. busts.
USC's failure at QB was another phenomenon: Most elite NFL QBs come from lesser known programs, because those guys have to elevate mediocre talent regularly. I remember having this conversation with someone in regards to Matt Leinart. Everyone was hyping Matt, but I wasn't sold on him because I noticed that he never had to make an NFL throw. He was throwing to open guys where the nearest DB was 10 yards away. He was Ken Dorsey with slightly better measureables. Look at the QBs in the NFL that are doing well: Lamar Jackson(Louisville), Josh Allen(Wyoming), Justin Herbert(Oregon). Those aren't
historical powers.
 
I have passionately been against and hesitant with every Ohio state QB that has entered the nfl draft in the past 15 years. With that said, I think Stroud has the best chance of being successful, he showed me a lot in the playoffs this year.

I wouldn’t take young in the top 10, but the guy legit has everything you want on and off the field in a franchise QB besides his size.

Richardson is a boom to Josh Allen type level or a complete bust. He needs to marinate and desperately needs to go to a stable QB room and team. A team like Detroit or Seattle would be good
 
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Bryce Young is the mf'in truth.

Gonna say the same bout Caleb Williams next year at this time.

Both are special enough to turn around a bad team provided the coaching and leadership is solid and management prioritizes the OL and WR positions
 
Good one. He’s a good evaluator and developer. Don’t think any of his qbs have been great yet but all 3 have led a team to the playoffs so I respect that alot
Kyler Murray get paid big time (even though he’s inconsistent) and Jalen Hurts is solid so far. I know that he was already proven before arriving at Lincoln Riley University but I think he took it to another level with Lincoln as his coach/developer.
 
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