Wake game thoughts after rewatch

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there is no excuse not to have a bunch of plays for Barkate in your pocket. And after the speech this week about Mali not being the center of the offense, I really don't understand what happened on Friday. It seemed like the plan was to get Lofton more targets all night. IDK if that was intentional or if he was the only one open...
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Barkate should be getting 6-8 targets a game
Mali can’t get every
**** ball
It’s dumb not having a more
Diverse passing attack when we have the players all
Over the field
 
Interesting to compare the verdicts on here to what the national media are saying. All I see is Miami is legit, Miami took care of business, Mensah had another Heisman worthy performance, the game was never really in question, etc.
They don’t watch like we do
 
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Barkate should be getting 6-8 targets a game
Mali can’t get every
**** ball
It’s dumb not having a more
Diverse passing attack when we have the players all
Over the field
Especially given what Dawson has said numerous times. He wants touches for many receivers.
 
True but does your post not hold true for every team in CFB? By week 3 haven’t all the weaknesses been exposed?

ND has no explosive running plays
OU’s QB can’t pass
Oregon’s defense is weak
OSU is too dependent on JJ Smith
IU is good but Hoover isn’t Mendoza
Manning can’t read defenses and throw from the pocket

So to your point, isn’t every fan base writing something similar to your post? And aren’t we all correct? And if every team is flawed, what does that say about UM’s chances against the other flawed opponents?

My point is more directed at our trends historically.

TYPICALLY (yes, there are a few exceptions) we see the same habits of our seemingly small warts going from "signs" to full on season derailing issues once the back half of our schedule gameplans accordingly. This conference has done a great job attacking our weakness over the last 20+ years.

Hopefully we make the necessary adjustments. More often than not, we fail to do so in season.
 
Appreciate the detail and agree, especially on getting stuff right and finding some solace in the win. The schedule worked in our favor this year when it comes to that.

On the OL. I understand the reluctance to have majority young bucks out there with the communication and coordination needed. But if there’s ever a time for trial by fire it’s this week. This is a horrendous Central team. It’s like Jimmy said. You take your X’s and O’s, and I’ll take my Jimmies and Joes. The guys referenced have ceilings through the roof and there will be growing pains to go along with the great moments. I’m not saying any are Maui at this point, but Maui was not impervious to false starts, holdings, and getting beat. He had his fair share of trials and tribulation.

Get the biggest, nastiest, strongest, and most motivated and work it out.
 
I tried to rewatch the game but had to turn it off after the first drive. Our guards were literally bad on almost every play. Holy ****.
This right here. The first drive was beyond bad, but i think Max played better as the game went on. At least he wasn't as glaring a hole as he was on the first drive
 
What an idiot. Wisconsin played Ohio State, Oregon, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Iowa, Washington, and Bama.


What an idiot. It's not about "schedule", it's about the quality of the team, and Wisconsin was TERRIBLE last year.

Wisconsin lost by 24 to Alabama.
WISCONSIN LOST BY 17 TO MARYLAND AT HOME.
Wisconsin lost by 14 to Michigan.
Wisconsin lost by 37 to Iowa AT HOME.
Wisconsin lost by 34 to Ohio Taint AT HOME.
Wisconsin lost by 14 to Oregon.
Wisconsin lost by 24 to Indiana.
Wisconsin lost by 10 to Minnesota.

That is 8 double-digit losses. That doesn't make Wisconsin a good team or better than Wake Forest. Two of Wisconsin's FOUR WINS came against Miami of Ohio and Middle Tennessee State. Even if you grant Wisconsin six "good losses", they also lost to Maryland and Minnesota.

Meanwhile, what did Wake do last year?

BEAT ranked UVa (who went to the ACC-CG)
Lost to Duke on the road (who won the ACC-CG)
Lost in OT to GaTech
BEAT SMU

So that means they played 4 of the 6 best teams in the ACC last year, and went 2-2. In other words, two of Wake's FOUR LOSSES came against teams who were in the ACC-CG tiebreaker for the second spot in the game.

Anyone who can't see that Wake was a better team than Wisconsin last year is an idiot.

Own your idiocy.
 
I agree that we should’ve brought in a veteran IOL. I was fine passing on Seaton for a bunch of reasons but we could’ve used a physical guard and a blocking TE.
Do any of the newer TE’s show promise?
 
It’s funny that we have rightly criticized the OL but they have a zero pre snap penalties.
 
After a rewatch, there’s something else I noticed that’s kind of getting glanced over in the midst of other problems (line play, play calling). Mensah had multiple missed reads in the second half that cost us first downs/explosive plays. I know even the best quarterbacks miss open guys but when you are struggling as bad as we did in the second half, ignoring wide open guys to throw to covered ones can be the difference between scoring another 14 points or going 3 and out five times in a row. Just one conversion could have impacted the game significantly.
 
After a rewatch, there’s something else I noticed that’s kind of getting glanced over in the midst of other problems (line play, play calling). Mensah had multiple missed reads in the second half that cost us first downs/explosive plays. I know even the best quarterbacks miss open guys but when you are struggling as bad as we did in the second half, ignoring wide open guys to throw to covered ones can be the difference between scoring another 14 points or going 3 and out five times in a row. Just one conversion could have impacted the game significantly.

dawson mentioned this indirectly at his presser yesterday
 
The online reaction is too strong in every direction. Multiple things can be true at once. We played below our ability. Wake is still a solid, winning team with a veteran QB. Neither view cancels out the other. Our offensive line is not playoff-caliber right now. It's also early, and many takes about last year's OL and running game aged like milk.

I think the best approach is to focus on where we are and what we need to improve. It's a long season, and hopefully a very long one. Here are some thoughts after watching live in Winston-Salem and on replay:

- There were two drives that stood out to me as turning points. Five minutes left in the third. We're up 31-7. Wake hits a screen, Mo Toure forces a fumble and the turnover gets wiped out by Damon Wilson roughing the passer. Later in the drive, it's 3rd and 10 in the red zone. Omar Thornton and Bryce Fitzgerald get mixed up in zone coverage, Gio Lopez hits Jack Foley wide open, Thornton misses the tackle, Wake scores and starts regaining confidence.

We get the ball next. Second and 8 on our own 14. Both guards got beat, Mensah throws it away (his first incompletion), gets hit low and starts limping. After that, Mensah played uncharacteristically tentative. He bailed early out of some decent pockets and, when he stayed in the pocket, he threw early instead of standing strong and finding the open receiver (see 50/50 heave to Elija Lofton).

That's not to blame Mensah- he was awesome and the protection problems were very real. But I noticed a change in him on that play. Dawson got conservative after that, and my sense is that he was worried about his QB and our ability to protect him without our top playmakers.

- Those two drives hit on all our biggest issues. The interior struggled all night. SJ Alofaituli is getting some deserved heat, but Max Buchanan and Ryan Rodriguez had rough moments as well. Some of that is poor communication that can improve. But my real concern is how all three look on the field at the same time. None of them are Anez Cooper or Matt McCoy in terms of size and power. We just aren't firm enough there. Jackson Cantwell and Ben Congdon got a ton of first-team reps in camp, and Mirabal needs to keep pushing buttons to get them ready.

Missed tackles were an issue all night. Aside from the first two drives against Louisville, that was never a problem last season. Lopez and Carlos Hernandez are physically strong players, so they deserve some credit. But if our guys complete half the tackles they missed, it's a different game.

Another thing that came up in that sequence was lack of discipline. We had 75 penalty yards overall on the night. That would've put us 135th in the country last year as an average. Several of those penalties were critical in shifting momentum. We can't let that become a trend.

The last thing is injuries. Mensah's injury seemed minor, but those minor injuries added up. It makes a difference when you lose 2/3 of the best trio in America. Marty Brown's injury is a heartbreaker and puts a damper on everything.

- With that said, we won by 13 on the road against a conference opponent that was 11-4 under this coach. Winning is hard. Some say that a second-half performance like that can get us beat in the ACC. That's true. But this is also the type of ACC road game we lose in the past. And based on what I'm seeing in the UNC/Clemson game, Wake might be the best ACC road opponent on our schedule. They certainly have the best QB.

- Mark Fletcher is telling people his injury is just a stinger. Hopefully that's correct, because the game changed when he stopped getting carries. Javian Mallory, Jordan Lyle and Girard Pringle will get a chance to step up with Marty out. We ran a stretch play to to Pringle, but Rodriguez and Alofaituli got knocked back and the play lost 2. That drive reminded me of Lyle's carried against Syracuse- talented player, but wrong time in the game and it hurt our momentum.

- Quiet day for the receivers aside from Mali. It's alarming how much the offense stalled when he went out. We need multiple guys who can punish man coverage.

- Lofton made some nice blocks (see pancake on first quarter Fletcher run) and a couple big plays in the passing game. The key with him is getting him the ball in space. He's not a 50/50 ball winner like some longer TEs. We don't have that kind of presence on the roster, and it's a concern. Gavin Mueller competed as a blocker and helped spring Fletcher for a long run off the left side.

- The pass rush showed up when Wake Forest got down big and had to pass. Wilson made some mental mistakes, but was hugely impactful in getting a sack, forcing a safety and causing a turnover on downs. Marquise Lightfoot also had a good day. Ahmad Moten (dealing with injury) and Justin Scott haven't broken through yet, but they helped limit Wake to 22 yards rushing. I want to see more from Keona Davis and Jarquez Carter after the flashes they showed in camp. But we should also remember how Moten and Scott progressed throughout last season. Still early.

- We know the deal at linebacker. We're big and old, and teams are going to target Toure and Chase Smith in coverage. I liked seeing Ezekiel Marcelin early, and Kamal Bonner got some high-leverage snaps at the end of the game.

- There were a few bright spots in the secondary. Bryce Fitzgerald showed his ability to diagnose and was very physical. He's still learning at corner, but I expect his ball skills to show up as he gets more comfortable. Ethan O'Connor made a huge play which should boost his confidence. JJ Dunnigan played every defensive snap and did so at 100 MPH. He's going to be amazing.

However, it's clear Hetherman is still trying to protect the DBs. If we're going to play with so much cushion, the defensive backs need to do a better job communicating. There were several costly breakdowns, including the touchdown described above. Damari Brown still looks a little injured to me, and he's not playing with a ton of confidence. He's already a bigger guy at 200+ pounds, so playing slower hurts him even more. He did make a nice TFL, though. Thornton is a menace going downhill, but teams are going to keep challenging him like Wake did with Hernandez. I've seen Thornton cover Mali in practice, and while he's never going to be lockdown, I think there's more there than he showed on that play.

- One cool lineup that we used late in the fourth- Lightfoot, Wilson and Booker Pickett on the defensive line, Bobby Pruitt and Dunnigan at linebacker, Brown, O'Connor, Zechariah Poyser, Thornton and Dylan Day in the defensive backfield. Tons of speed on the field.

- While I can at least understand the rationale for playing conservative on offense, the decision to kick a 54-yard field goal makes no sense to me. Jake Weinberg is still an unproven young player, Mensah is more than capable of converting 4th and 4. Best case scenario if he hits the kick, it's still a two-score game. Someone needs to explain that one.

- I'm also disappointed we couldn't do more on kickoff return. The ACC is the top touchback conference in America, and we couldn't do anything despite finally getting opportunities to return.

Overall, it's a great time to play Central Michigan. We need to get healthier and younger. See you at the Rock.
Our avg start was the 23.8 yard line and the national average is 29.0. TBF, this includes punts, but looking at the KOs only.
- 1st return penalty holding to 8 yardline, w/o penalty only got to 22, fair catch would be the 25. Fail
- 2nd return 16 yard run to the 20, fair catch would be 25. Fail
- 3rd return 21 yard return to the 36 (due to penalty on PAT), unnecessary roughness, start at 12. Fail
- 4th return Touchback, start at 25, finally ! Success
-5th return Safety punt return, run from the 20 to 37. Success

Until further notice the team should just take the 25 yard starting point. 2/4 returns would not have made it regardless of penalties. 2/4 returns had penalties. Stop running it out!
 
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