FullyERicht
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To compare him to Dorito is everything I need to know about this discussion.
He can have the best Xs and Os in football, but if he doesn't produce results who cares. Concepts mean nothing if you cannot put them into practice.
Context. Why has he produced less than optimal results recently? Could it be that he had a front that had been recruited to implement a 2-gap system? Could it be that he just transitioned guys suited to play a totally different type of [strength] system to an upfield system? Could it be for another reason? Part of the reason, surely, is that he can be too complicated. I mentioned that. I don't think there are perfect candidates.
Thanks for letting me know that concepts mean nothing without results. That wasn't my point, and you probably know that (or I hope you do).
It's been everywhere though. He stunk at AU, stinks at ND, despite it being his third year. Stunk with the Falcons. He just hasn't ever had any really good seasons to fall back on.
He was at AU for a cup of coffee (one year with Chizik).
He's definitely struggled at ND more than I expected him to, so I'll concede that one.
Atlanta:
During VanGorder's stint with the Falcons, the organization achieved unprecedented heights, posting four consecutive winning seasons, a franchise first, including playoff appearances in 2008, 2010 and 2011. His defenses consistently showed marked improvements along the way.
Helping the Falcons to a 10-6 regular season record in 2011, VanGorder's defense finished the regular season second in the NFL in red zone defense, sixth in rushing defense (97.0 ypg), and 12th in total defense (333.6 ypg).
In 2010, the Falcons defense finished 10th in the NFL in rushing defense allowing 105.9 yards per game, which ranked fifth in the NFC. The run defense was not the only part of the defense that showed improvement in 2010. VanGorder's defense ranked in the top five in the NFL in scoring defense (18.0, 5th), turnover differential (+14, 3rd) and interceptions (22, 4th), marking highs for VanGorder's defense during his tenure.
His defenses were 22nd, 25th, 16th, and 12th and then he got fired. Par for the course for him: mediocre.
He took the 8th ranked defense and dropped to 31st and then in the 70s and back to the thirties at ND.
His one season at AU is excusible, but nonetheless it was wretched.