Valentine and Bo

[bobbydigius]

Al has us on top in the most important categories of effort and grad rates. We are about to go on a grad rate run that will even challenge those late 90s ND teams......

 

[The Franchise]

Al with us on top in the most important categories of effort and grad rates. We are about to go on a grad rate run that will even challenge those late 90s ND teams......

Thank God and Al for that! Try hard. Win harder! Effort is our friend.

 

[miami_yak]

If we had coaches for crap, we'd have won more games, and we wouldn't have given up 500 yards a game.

FSU recruits well because they play well, and are coached well. Same-same with Alabama.

Look, you'll have some who want to stay home.

Others want to play for a winning program where they can play for the NC, and then the NFL. Those are the ones we're losing.

Get someone like Butch, start winning, playing aggressively with our ears laid back, and we'll keep a lot of those we want from S.FL. Not with Golden. Not with D'Onofrio.

Jimbo took over n got n elite instantly, kids dont care who wins. Cory johnson went t kentucky for gods sake. Its more than what ur saying

Cory Johnson, like Valentine, was probably scared off by Miami's academic requirements. Like TV, he went to a very questionable school. It looks like that Brooklyn JUCO Johnson went to is the JUCO equivalent of Champagnat.

Don't forget, Champagnat is not accredited; it does not speak well for LSU that they're so willing to take a kid like that probably without providing a path to academic success in a real academic major. They probably promised him a P.E. major which UM does not have. They discard a lot of players after they get there, not only do they have a lower NCAA grad rate, but a lower federal grad rate, which looks at the overall percentage taking into consideration those who come in or leave the program.

A lot of these kids are very marginal students--they see their future as defined by football, not achieving a professional vocation. If they don't make it in football, they might end up coaching HS, or being a cop or security guard. Usually honorable professions (not always) but not professions that really require the intellectual development that academic courses in college might provide.

I think that's the issue with Wyche too. He probably dislikes school so much he was not willing to put in an extra semester of classes to come to the U.

Can we stop pretending any of these kids are here for anything but football? It's not our responsibility to force a kid to do something he's not interested in. But we do, and then they go elsewhere and we lose games. This school is closer to Bama than it is Duke, yet we have unrealistic standards bc of the **************.

Each kid is different. Don't assume every kid fits a stereotype. One of my classmates in college was an All-American in basketball and the second pick overall in the NBA draft. But he was also offered a Rhodes Scholarship to do graduate work at Oxford. His interests obviously went way beyond sports. Maybe it's YOU that only cares about football, and you think the kids are all like you. But not all of them are.

Michael Beasley?

 

[The Franchise]

Jimbo took over n got n elite instantly, kids dont care who wins. Cory johnson went t kentucky for gods sake. Its more than what ur saying

Cory Johnson, like Valentine, was probably scared off by Miami's academic requirements. Like TV, he went to a very questionable school. It looks like that Brooklyn JUCO Johnson went to is the JUCO equivalent of Champagnat.

Don't forget, Champagnat is not accredited; it does not speak well for LSU that they're so willing to take a kid like that probably without providing a path to academic success in a real academic major. They probably promised him a P.E. major which UM does not have. They discard a lot of players after they get there, not only do they have a lower NCAA grad rate, but a lower federal grad rate, which looks at the overall percentage taking into consideration those who come in or leave the program.

A lot of these kids are very marginal students--they see their future as defined by football, not achieving a professional vocation. If they don't make it in football, they might end up coaching HS, or being a cop or security guard. Usually honorable professions (not always) but not professions that really require the intellectual development that academic courses in college might provide.

I think that's the issue with Wyche too. He probably dislikes school so much he was not willing to put in an extra semester of classes to come to the U.

Can we stop pretending any of these kids are here for anything but football? It's not our responsibility to force a kid to do something he's not interested in. But we do, and then they go elsewhere and we lose games. This school is closer to Bama than it is Duke, yet we have unrealistic standards bc of the **************.

Each kid is different. Don't assume every kid fits a stereotype. One of my classmates in college was an All-American in basketball and the second pick overall in the NBA draft. But he was also offered a Rhodes Scholarship to do graduate work at Oxford. His interests obviously went way beyond sports. Maybe it's YOU that only cares about football, and you think the kids are all like you. But not all of them are.

Michael Beasley?

Beasley Reece.

 

[SeatStripper52]

I will never understand all the AG hate. Guy gets hired, within 2 weeks is told "by the way we have this minor thing going on with a booster who was also a Ponzi schemer.." which turned into an investigation where the NCAAs main witness was a felon. I could go tomorrow and show a Best Buy receipt and say I bought it for Player X to come to our school, and the NCAA would take it as fact. Back to my point, he obviously put together a plan to get through this, which included getting kids to trust fall into his arms (which is **** near impossible, looming NCAA can costs teams 10000% locks for example Peyton not going to Ole Miss where the speed limit is his daddy's number) and he has landed top talent (Stole Stacey Coley, Duke, this massive Oline, Chad, Deon Bush, T Howard, Kaaya, Yearby, artie burns, Olsen, Jackson, etc etc etc) with other coaches talking serious penalties "they wouldnt be passing up that bowl money unless it is REALLY bad kid" It's **** impressive IMO to land these kids with the conditions he inherited. We have a solid base, and are going to lose kids, it is natural for kids to flip (COLEY last year), and now he can sell the program the right way instead of sounding like a snake oil salesman "oh that NCAA thing, its nothing even though we are already punishing ourselves and turned down a trip to the conference championship. Now all this had a huge effect on depth, which IMO is why we had that slide in Oct/November not to mention down arguably our 2 best offensive threats. As for the PSU thing, all happened during dead period, and no one knows exactly how that went down. Also, apart from the household names, dude is finding diamonds in the rough like Figs who will be a beast. Keeping coach D may be the biggest mistake he made down here, but we will see, that D looked good for a month or so last year. Basically just give the guy a **** break, he wants to be here, knows what he is doing, and obviously has a plan he is sticking to. I say give him 2 yrs to win conference then make the call. FWIW, I would rather have a coach leave due to success and rep than be canned because of utter failure.