USA Today Article on Richt and Player Discipline/Baylor

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Miami?s Mark Richt is one coach who won?t have to change in aftermath of Baylor

Dan Wolken
USA TODAY Sports

CORAL GABLES, Fla. — During a wide-ranging interview Thursday morning in his office at the University of Miami, it only seemed natural to steer new coach Mark Richt toward the topic of player discipline in light of what happened in the past week at Baylor.

Richt, after all, was central to one of the great Internet memes in the history of the SEC when a raft of key football players at Georgia were suspended for the 2012 opener. Suddenly, “Mark Richt has lost control” became a thing both within the Georgia fan base and outside of it, where it evolved into a shorthand for pretty much any deficiency in the program.

But the irony of “Mark Richt has lost control” as a concept is that Georgia’s annual list of player dismissals and suspensions meant he actually had quite a bit of control. And regardless of whether it was a star player or an expendable backup, Georgia players were going to face discipline for offseason infractions — usually to a greater degree than their counterparts at other SEC schools.

There were even occasions players dismissed from Georgia resurfaced at other SEC schools and, in the case of former Auburn quarterback Nick Marshall, had a direct hand in putting Richt a little closer to the hot seat.

Yet so warped is the mindset of the college football fan that Richt’s greatest virtue — his willingness to do the right thing for the program, even if it was against his self-interest as a coach trying to keep his job — became something people beat him over the head with time and time again.

“That’s O.K.,” Richt said. “I care about doing the right thing, what’s in the best interest of the team and the best interest of the player. Even when I got let go at Georgia, some of the text messages I got were from guys I had dismissed from the team. They were saying, ‘Coach, thank you, you helped me. You shocked my system where I got my act together and went on in a positive way.’

“My goal isn’t to throw guys off the team. We had a meeting yesterday and I told the guys, ‘I want everybody to be here. But I want everybody to do it the way we’re going to ask you to do it. Everything we’re asking you to do is helping you be a better student, a better person, a better football player. Period.’ ”

It would be nice, particularly in light of the Baylor situation, if college football moved closer to Richt’s way of doing things. And maybe it is, in some ways. It was Georgia, after all, that proposed SEC legislation last year banning transfers who had been dismissed from their previous schools for sexual assault or other forms of sexual or domestic violence. It was passed after a former Georgia player, Jonathan Taylor, enrolled at Alabama despite a pending domestic violence charge only to be dismissed several weeks later following another off-field incident.

And though Richt doesn’t want to come across as holier-than-thou, he is one of the few coaches in college football whose sincerity should not be questioned on the subject of player discipline. His track record — including already at Miami, where he booted kicker Jonathan Semerene after a second DUI in 20 months — suggests he will suspend or dismiss a player in situations where many of his colleagues would simply pull the old “internal matter” card.

But given what we saw at Baylor, where Art Briles put players on the field despite serious allegations of violence and misconduct, wouldn’t you rather have Richt’s approach?

“It’s part of loving ’em,” Richt said. “Discipline, if you break down what the word means, love is at the heart of that definition. If you have children, if you love them, you’re going to discipline them. If you don’t love them, you’re going to let them do whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it and they’ll be a trainwreck.

“If I love my guys, I’m going to try to help discipline them and train them to do this, this, this and this so when you leave here you’ll be successful in life. If you don’t want to do that, you don’t need to be a part of this team. But I’m telling you, if you do these things, it will help you be a great player, it will help you be a great person, it will help you get your degree. Everything I do is for your benefit to bless your life, your wife, your kids and your grandkids, so just understand that first of all.

“And most of the guys get it. Some guys blow it. They make mistakes. Sometimes it’s a minor thing. You’re late, 5:30 next morning you’re here running. Miss a class, it’ll be a little rougher for you. If you miss too many classes, you miss a game. If you constantly won’t comply, just go somewhere else.”

But here’s the rub: Richt never won a national title at Georgia. And though it’s impossible to pinpoint one thing that could have gotten him over the hump, Georgia fans will forever be torn over their devotion to the so-called “Georgia Way” and their burning desire to be a little more like Alabama.

If the roaring, full house at Georgia’s spring game was any indication, the pendulum in Athens has swung to the latter. Kirby Smart isn’t going to get everything he wants — Georgia’s stricter-than-industry-standard drug policy is staying intact for now, anyway — but little by little the Sabanization of the Bulldogs is taking hold.

We’ll soon find out whether that means more Saban-style discipline and willingness to give players as many chances as they need if they’re good enough to deliver titles, but the hunch here is it will. And Georgia fans will cheer just as loudly for that as they did puffing out their chests about how Richt did it the “right way.”

But the truth is, now is as good a time as any to appreciate the way Richt does it. Though he’s living a new lifestyle and experiencing a new challenge in trying to rebuild Miami, that won’t change. Miami won’t be perfect, but Richt won’t ever be afraid of making a tough decision that might help keep his campus safer. Lost control? Just the opposite.

“I think you have to be consistent in your discipline whether he’s a walk on or whether he’s a five-star guy,” Richt said. “Whether it’s Todd Gurley or Joe Smith, it’s got to be consistent, because if you treat one guy this way with the rules and another guy a different way and favor one group of guys, you’re going to lose your team eventually and you’re not doing what’s right.”
 
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I already know there's gunna be a lot of people on this site who are gunna get ****ed that he suspends people, even if they are stars
 
I'd rather win the right way any day of the week. The lives of these young men are more important than titles. Yeah, we all want titles, but I know we can have titles AND do it the right way here. That would be the ultimate finger to the SEC, winning a title with a good man they rejected, WITHOUT all the BS they have to hold their nose for.
I already know there's gunna be a lot of people on this site who are gunna get ****ed that he suspends people, even if they are stars
 
It's easy to be 'Bama bashing in June...Then watch them get all the coverage in the fall because they win.

America is desensitized to widespread corruption now. Heck, most people think it is part of the landscape ("If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin').

I wish CMR all the best and hope he gets a 2001-like team, winning on and off the field...But it is going to be hard in the Age of Entitlement.
 
This is Miami. He should be able to recruit enough good players were dumping a few bad actors will not cripple on the field performance, but this is not UGA. Winning very much matters. To be a "good" guy coach, he needs to be a good enough coach to win with what is left.
 
Gonna suck when we're missing some key players for big games. But it's on him to recruit good character and pick the right guys. You can't sign a bunch of clowns then kick them all out and congratulate yourself.

You gotta win at the end of the day. And I ain't talking 9.4 games per year. If that means signing a guy who might be slightly less talented but won't get kicked off the team, then that's what he should do.

At the end of the day, it's a results game. He's not making $4M per to be a mentor.
 
Gonna suck when we're missing some key players for big games. But it's on him to recruit good character and pick the right guys. You can't sign a bunch of clowns then kick them all out and congratulate yourself.

You gotta win at the end of the day. And I ain't talking 9.4 games per year. If that means signing a guy who might be slightly less talented but won't get kicked off the team, then that's what he should do.

At the end of the day, it's a results game. He's not making $4M per to be a mentor.

Yup. But it can and should be done. Butch was as strict a disciplinarian as we've had and built a monster nonetheless. Richt may not be on par with Butch as a recruiter, but he's not far off and he's a better coach. Just need some depth.
 
Like in 2001. Man was that ever brutal.
Gonna suck when we're missing some key players for big games. But it's on him to recruit good character and pick the right guys. You can't sign a bunch of clowns then kick them all out and congratulate yourself.

You gotta win at the end of the day. And I ain't talking 9.4 games per year. If that means signing a guy who might be slightly less talented but won't get kicked off the team, then that's what he should do.

At the end of the day, it's a results game. He's not making $4M per to be a mentor.
 
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I'd rather win the right way any day of the week. The lives of these young men are more important than titles. Yeah, we all want titles, but I know we can have titles AND do it the right way here. That would be the ultimate finger to the SEC, winning a title with a good man they rejected, WITHOUT all the BS they have to hold their nose for.
I already know there's gunna be a lot of people on this site who are gunna get ****ed that he suspends people, even if they are stars

I agree, But There will be annoying people on here that will complain all day about the fact that someone was suspended.
 
I always hated FSU for not suspending players, or doing it so they wouldn't be missed. Like the time Bowden suspended Janokowski from starting the championship game against VT, only to use him the first chance he got. His reasoning was that since FSU didn't kick off, Janokowski didn't "start". I NEVER want UM to be like that.
I'd rather win the right way any day of the week. The lives of these young men are more important than titles. Yeah, we all want titles, but I know we can have titles AND do it the right way here. That would be the ultimate finger to the SEC, winning a title with a good man they rejected, WITHOUT all the BS they have to hold their nose for.
I already know there's gunna be a lot of people on this site who are gunna get ****ed that he suspends people, even if they are stars

I agree, But There will be annoying people on here that will complain all day about the fact that someone was suspended.
 
What do you all think the role of the Hurricane program is?

1) produce all-around student athletes/citizens with a winning tradition...or

2) win NCs and operate as a semi-pro NFL farm team?

I think I lean #1 so long as the winning tradition part is an achieved goal on a consistent basis
 
Gonna suck when we're missing some key players for big games. But it's on him to recruit good character and pick the right guys. You can't sign a bunch of clowns then kick them all out and congratulate yourself.

You gotta win at the end of the day. And I ain't talking 9.4 games per year. If that means signing a guy who might be slightly less talented but won't get kicked off the team, then that's what he should do.

At the end of the day, it's a results game. He's not making $4M per to be a mentor.

Yup. But it can and should be done. Butch was as strict a disciplinarian as we've had and built a monster nonetheless. Richt may not be on par with Butch as a recruiter, but he's not far off and he's a better coach. Just need some depth.
Richt is a great recruiter. My issue is this: If you recruit great talent but have to kick so many of them off the team because you have tight rules, then you're not doing a great job. He needs to do a better job recruiting guys he doesn't have to keep suspending or ultimately kick out. He didn't do a great job of that at UGA.

Butch wasn't as hardcore a disciplinarian as people make him out to be. Players were scared of him. But he did all he could do to keep arrests quiet and keep guys eligible even when they were doing some shady ****. Butch was incensed when UM suspended several players before I think it was the UCLA game where EJ went off.

He was a master of working with the local cops to keep stuff quiet. Don't forget that he did all this before the internet where everything became news and everyone was taping everything.
 
Like in 2001. Man was that ever brutal.
Gonna suck when we're missing some key players for big games. But it's on him to recruit good character and pick the right guys. You can't sign a bunch of clowns then kick them all out and congratulate yourself.

You gotta win at the end of the day. And I ain't talking 9.4 games per year. If that means signing a guy who might be slightly less talented but won't get kicked off the team, then that's what he should do.

At the end of the day, it's a results game. He's not making $4M per to be a mentor.

Huh? What did Richt do in 2001?
 
Richt needs to go fishing with Jimmy. His rules were flexible within reason depending on who the player was and how good they were. Jimmy did this at Miami and Dallas and it worked at both places.
 
My point was we can win with good players that don't have to be suspended. :o)
Like in 2001. Man was that ever brutal.
Gonna suck when we're missing some key players for big games. But it's on him to recruit good character and pick the right guys. You can't sign a bunch of clowns then kick them all out and congratulate yourself.

You gotta win at the end of the day. And I ain't talking 9.4 games per year. If that means signing a guy who might be slightly less talented but won't get kicked off the team, then that's what he should do.

At the end of the day, it's a results game. He's not making $4M per to be a mentor.

Huh? What did Richt do in 2001?
 
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Its also a reason I'd personally rather win fewer championships and have our guys more successful in the league once they move on than having guys who never perform in the league but we win more championships.

I'd rather have guys be more successful in the future after leaving here than while here...After all, that is the purpose of college.
 
Its also a reason I'd personally rather win fewer championships and have our guys more successful in the league once they move on than having guys who never perform in the league but we win more championships.

I'd rather have guys be more successful in the future after leaving here than while here...After all, that is the purpose of college.

This.
 
The only issue I could see being problematic at a school like Miami is if Richt brings in too many kids that he ends up having to boot. That media narrative will flip real quick from Mark Richt the disciplinarian to Mark Richt can't control the program at Miami as he's had sooooo many players with issues. Then the scrutiny on who he's recruiting and if he's suited for big city culture will start. It won't be fair or right but ANY discipline related actions or issues here always get spun as us being a renegade program located in a cultural cesspool.
 
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