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Uncalled Holding Penalties Against Our Defensive Linemen

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Anyone else feel beaten down by this? The one game where our HC takes umbrage with it is during a bowl game with referees from another conference. There doesn't appear to be any way to fix this. Perhaps we can brainstorm and devise a plan for notifying the world of this injustice. Can't even enjoy being at a game when all we're doing is screaming, begging the official to call a hold.
 
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westcoastcanes said:
Fly the **** banner rok.
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How much would it cost to fly this on a banner?

Holding: The hand(s) and arm(s) shall not be used to grasp, pull, hook, clamp or encircle in any way that illegally impedes or illegally obstructs an opponent. PENALTY—10 yards Penalties for Team A fouls behind the neutral zone are enforced from the previous spot. Safety if the foul occurs behind Team A’s goal line.

Might need 2-3 planes, though.
 
Richt needs to get a copy of every game ,go through them mark the holdings and take it to the ACC office.Now not all holding is gonna be called in any game but if he can show 100 holding situations and only say 20 were called he can make his case.

Problem Is the ACC and the officials seem to already be hellbent on making life as hard as possible on us so will it make it worse?
 
KWConch said:
Richt needs to get a copy of every game ,go through them mark the holdings and take it to the ACC office.Now not all holding is gonna be called in any game but if he can show 100 holding situations and only say 20 were called he can make his case.

Problem Is the ACC and the officials seem to already be hellbent on making life as hard as possible on us so will it make it worse?
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lol you think the acc isn't in on it?
 
How do you guys start and post in this thread supporting the notion we're egregiously held moreso than we hold or other teams are held and simultaneously rip the defense for "sucking?"
 
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LuCane said:
How do you guys start and post in this thread supporting the notion we're egregiously held moreso than we hold or other teams are held and simultaneously rip the defense for "sucking?"
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My best guess -- the utter inability to experience cognitive dissonance.
 
KWConch said:
Richt needs to get a copy of every game ,go through them mark the holdings and take it to the ACC office.Now not all holding is gonna be called in any game but if he can show 100 holding situations and only say 20 were called he can make his case.

Problem Is the ACC and the officials seem to already be hellbent on making life as hard as possible on us so will it make it worse?
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He has done that. Earlier this season he mentioned in an interview that they send a dozen or so plays/game to the ACC for review, and that the ACC agrees with their grievances on about a third of them. Not sure what that affects, or how exactly officials are looped in, but the complaint was definitely lodged multiple times.
 
LuCane said:
How do you guys start and post in this thread supporting the notion we're egregiously held moreso than we hold or other teams are held and simultaneously rip the defense for "sucking?"
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I think we can safely say that we came away confused and unimpressed with the defense after Bethune, Toledo, UNC, UVA, Pitt, Clemson, Wisconsin.

ND and VT they were lights out.

Duke, FSU, GT, Cuse they performed well.
 
KWConch said:
Richt needs to get a copy of every game ,go through them mark the holdings and take it to the ACC office.Now not all holding is gonna be called in any game but if he can show 100 holding situations and only say 20 were called he can make his case.

Problem Is the ACC and the officials seem to already be hellbent on making life as hard as possible on us so will it make it worse?
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So I read this post and my gut reaction was there's no way there were anywhere near 20 holding calls against opposing offenses this year. This got me wondering, how many holding calls were there called against opposing offenses this year... the answer is pretty remarkable.

Using E$PN's play-by-play breakdown of each game, it appears holding was called against opposing offenses only 8 times (I did not count holding penalties called in our favor on special teams, or clipping/tripping/other OL cheating) in our 13 games. Only 1 holding penalty was called against Clemson's, Wisconsin's, and Duke's offenses. 2 against F$U's offense. And 3 against Toledo. That's zero offensive holding penalties called against Pitt, UVA, ND, VT, UNC, GT, BCU, and Syracuse.

According to TeamRankings.com, Miami allowed a whopping 80.1 opponent plays per game. Over 13 games, that's about 1040 total plays (though I believe that stat includes punts and field goal attempts). Even assuming team's averaged 10 punts+fg attempts against us (which amounts to a conservative 130 plays) and discounting those, that's still 910 offensive plays against us. That's 1 offensive holding penalty called every 113.75 offensive snaps.

That number seemed light to me so I started looking for comparisons. I could not find any in college football, but in the 2016 season in the NFL, teams averaged 22.5 offensive holding penalties. That's 1.41 holding penalties per game, on average. Miami was getting offensive holding penalties in its favor at less than half that rate (.62/game). Again, not quite an apples to apples comparison, but it provides some context.

Conventional wisdom regarding the relationship between teams getting high sack totals and holding penalties (i.e., that defenses getting more sacks get more holding calls in their favor as offensive linemen will often hold when beaten) also produces a head-scratcher. Miami is currently leading the NCAA with 3.38 sacks per game. Something just does not add up...
 
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whoopingcane said:
We need to flop better. That's squarely on Searels.
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Make a highlight reel of all the missed holding calls and send it to the acc.

They’ll do nothing and tell us to **** off and that will be that.


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LuCane said:
How do you guys start and post in this thread supporting the notion we're egregiously held moreso than we hold or other teams are held and simultaneously rip the defense for "sucking?"
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Because, "We back."

And by, "back" I mean we've turned the board into Grassy.
 
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