UNC Slapped with LOIC

Its crazy how some people on this board will say that Donna wouldn't have hired Butch, but she was caught red handed receiving a 50k check from Shapiro. Talk about being a hypocrite...

That was not an NCAA Violation. It was merely a donation from a Booster to the school. Move along now.

LULZ at anyone that believes the troll didn't know Shapiro and his money were dirty when Radio did. The extent that people will go to defend that P.O.S. is mind boggling!!

A) Even the FBI couldn't track down any wrongdoing for over a year as stated in their report on Shapiro. There was nothing to say he was "dirty", just a loudmouth, obnoxious, booster who thought he was more important and entitled than he was.

B) The owner of the bowling alley and friend of Shapiro, as well as others at the event, said Shapiro wasn't even supposed to be at the event. He just showed up, walked up there, and handed her a check.

Whine about the hiring of ADs and coaches all you like, but trying to pretend that the Administration was in on Shapiro's crimes is just BS.
 
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It may not be what you want to hear, but there is zero chance Butch ever coaches here, or anywhere else for that matter.
 
Its crazy how some people on this board will say that Donna wouldn't have hired Butch, but she was caught red handed receiving a 50k check from Shapiro. Talk about being a hypocrite...

That was not an NCAA Violation. It was merely a donation from a Booster to the school. Move along now.

LULZ at anyone that believes the troll didn't know Shapiro and his money were dirty when Radio did. The extent that people will go to defend that P.O.S. is mind boggling!!

A) Even the FBI couldn't track down any wrongdoing for over a year as stated in their report on Shapiro. There was nothing to say he was "dirty", just a loudmouth, obnoxious, booster who thought he was more important and entitled than he was.

B) The owner of the bowling alley and friend of Shapiro, as well as others at the event, said Shapiro wasn't even supposed to be at the event. He just showed up, walked up there, and handed her a check.

Whine about the hiring of ADs and coaches all you like, but trying to pretend that the Administration was in on Shapiro's crimes is just BS.

But he's doing 20 yrs for a ponzi scheme? Yeah your excuses make sense. Showing up at a bowling alley and just handing over a check is not normal booster behavior. Please stop, there is no defense for him or the troll. By the way, I never said the administration was in on anything but choosing to look the other way, while overriding your head coach and allowing that weasel around your student athletes, means you are just as guilty.
 
butch lead us through near extinction with the NCAA. he is a disciplinarian. i would be shocked he if was involved in that crap.
 
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Its crazy how some people on this board will say that Donna wouldn't have hired Butch, but she was caught red handed receiving a 50k check from Shapiro. Talk about being a hypocrite...

That was not an NCAA Violation. It was merely a donation from a Booster to the school. Move along now.

LULZ at anyone that believes the troll didn't know Shapiro and his money were dirty when Radio did. The extent that people will go to defend that P.O.S. is mind boggling!!

A) Even the FBI couldn't track down any wrongdoing for over a year as stated in their report on Shapiro. There was nothing to say he was "dirty", just a loudmouth, obnoxious, booster who thought he was more important and entitled than he was.

B) The owner of the bowling alley and friend of Shapiro, as well as others at the event, said Shapiro wasn't even supposed to be at the event. He just showed up, walked up there, and handed her a check.

Whine about the hiring of ADs and coaches all you like, but trying to pretend that the Administration was in on Shapiro's crimes is just BS.

But he's doing 20 yrs for a ponzi scheme? Yeah your excuses make sense. Showing up at a bowling alley and just handing over a check is not normal booster behavior. Please stop, there is no defense for him or the troll. By the way, I never said the administration was in on anything but choosing to look the other way, while overriding your head coach and allowing that weasel around your student athletes, means you are just as guilty.

Yes, he was caught later. At the time, there was no evidence of wrongdoing. Did you read the FBI report that was released? I did. The lead investigator discussed how the case was stagnant for a good year because even they could not find evidence against him. Shapiro was described by the lead investigator as the most convincing and accomplished liar he had encountered in his career with the FBI investigating these kinds of cases. There is no defense for Shapiro. Trying to blame a university president for accepting donations from a booster who while obnoxious,arrogant, and over-the-top, had no signs of illegal behavior, is ridiculous.
 
Its crazy how some people on this board will say that Donna wouldn't have hired Butch, but she was caught red handed receiving a 50k check from Shapiro. Talk about being a hypocrite...

Lulz at all of the shalala truffle butter lickers that negged this
 
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Butch Davis has been exonerated of any and all involvement with these particular charges.
 
Yeah, while I don't think UM knew the full extent of his sleaze, they should have known enough to tear the check up. I can see Shalala not knowing the guy and taking the check, but someone had to know not to cash it.
Its crazy how some people on this board will say that Donna wouldn't have hired Butch, but she was caught red handed receiving a 50k check from Shapiro. Talk about being a hypocrite...

That was not an NCAA Violation. It was merely a donation from a Booster to the school. Move along now.

LULZ at anyone that believes the troll didn't know Shapiro and his money were dirty when Radio did. The extent that people will go to defend that P.O.S. is mind boggling!!

A) Even the FBI couldn't track down any wrongdoing for over a year as stated in their report on Shapiro. There was nothing to say he was "dirty", just a loudmouth, obnoxious, booster who thought he was more important and entitled than he was.

B) The owner of the bowling alley and friend of Shapiro, as well as others at the event, said Shapiro wasn't even supposed to be at the event. He just showed up, walked up there, and handed her a check.

Whine about the hiring of ADs and coaches all you like, but trying to pretend that the Administration was in on Shapiro's crimes is just BS.

But he's doing 20 yrs for a ponzi scheme? Yeah your excuses make sense. Showing up at a bowling alley and just handing over a check is not normal booster behavior. Please stop, there is no defense for him or the troll. By the way, I never said the administration was in on anything but choosing to look the other way, while overriding your head coach and allowing that weasel around your student athletes, means you are just as guilty.
 
For the record.

Butch Davis has been exonerated of any and all involvement in the current LOIC at UNC.

Butch Davis is still the one and only true choice for head coach at The U. (Gary Patterson excepted of course as 2nd fiddle)
 
Butch Davis won't be back at Miami.
Would I love to have him? Absolutely.
Will he be back? Absolutely not.
Anyone that thinks Miami will hire him is delusional.
If anyone is interested in placing money on it, please let me know.
Prepare yourself to be let down if that is the only guy you would ever like to see at Miami.
 
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Its crazy how some people on this board will say that Donna wouldn't have hired Butch, but she was caught red handed receiving a 50k check from Shapiro. Talk about being a hypocrite...

That was not an NCAA Violation. It was merely a donation from a Booster to the school. Move along now.

Yeap. that is why school HAD to GIVE it back, because there was nothing wrong with taking stolen property from a crook. Is that you Donna? Seems like Donna got hit with "lack of institutional control" too. Remember that smuck got mad because to thought she "bought" a free ride by sacrificing those 2 bowl games and giving away scholarships? NCAA hit her with the big charge. Why? If you don't think that picture of her stupid smiling face had anything to do with that, you are being silly. Her own, who protect each other to the death normally, turned their back on her and gave the thumbs down verdict. Even super IQ Randy knew not to tough that crook. Donna was lucky she didn't get a "show cause" letter because she deserved it(as did Foote).
 
That was not an NCAA Violation. It was merely a donation from a Booster to the school. Move along now.

LULZ at anyone that believes the troll didn't know Shapiro and his money were dirty when Radio did. The extent that people will go to defend that P.O.S. is mind boggling!!

A) Even the FBI couldn't track down any wrongdoing for over a year as stated in their report on Shapiro. There was nothing to say he was "dirty", just a loudmouth, obnoxious, booster who thought he was more important and entitled than he was.

B) The owner of the bowling alley and friend of Shapiro, as well as others at the event, said Shapiro wasn't even supposed to be at the event. He just showed up, walked up there, and handed her a check.

Whine about the hiring of ADs and coaches all you like, but trying to pretend that the Administration was in on Shapiro's crimes is just BS.

But he's doing 20 yrs for a ponzi scheme? Yeah your excuses make sense. Showing up at a bowling alley and just handing over a check is not normal booster behavior. Please stop, there is no defense for him or the troll. By the way, I never said the administration was in on anything but choosing to look the other way, while overriding your head coach and allowing that weasel around your student athletes, means you are just as guilty.

Yes, he was caught later. At the time, there was no evidence of wrongdoing. Did you read the FBI report that was released? I did. The lead investigator discussed how the case was stagnant for a good year because even they could not find evidence against him. Shapiro was described by the lead investigator as the most convincing and accomplished liar he had encountered in his career with the FBI investigating these kinds of cases. There is no defense for Shapiro. Trying to blame a university president for accepting donations from a booster who while obnoxious,arrogant, and over-the-top, had no signs of illegal behavior, is ridiculous.

You are wrong. There is due diligence to be done when accepting money. The source of the money matters a great dell. If you have standards you check. If you are low-lift crooked slime like all Clintonites, you take the money and smile. When your head football coach tells his players to stay away from a big money donor and your people have to order him to let the guy hang out, ANYONE knows something is wrong. Donna is supposedly one of those smartest guys in the room types -- you self-proclaimed genius. She is the President of a major international university and should have known better. She is either stupider than Randy or a crook, there really isn't another option. Pretending there is calls your status into question.
 
Butch Davis won't be back at Miami.
Would I love to have him? Absolutely.
Will he be back? Absolutely not.
Anyone that thinks Miami will hire him is delusional.
If anyone is interested in placing money on it, please let me know.
Prepare yourself to be let down if that is the only guy you would ever like to see at Miami.

1.) lady Basketball was the worse offender at UNC, not Butch Football team.

2.) Anyone that this UM Admin brings as HC has 60% chance of being a "Fail" (& that's being generous)

3.) The college world of Football AND the NCAA don't want to see a dominant UM.

4.) Therefore there is inherent forces to sully Butch name dirty so that he doesn't bring the old U back.

5.) Still, Butch is THE surest thing to bring this U to compete for championships.
 
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Its crazy how some people on this board will say that Donna wouldn't have hired Butch, but she was caught red handed receiving a 50k check from Shapiro. Talk about being a hypocrite...

That was not an NCAA Violation. It was merely a donation from a Booster to the school. Move along now.

Yeap. that is why school HAD to GIVE it back, because there was nothing wrong with taking stolen property from a crook. Is that you Donna? Seems like Donna got hit with "lack of institutional control" too. Remember that smuck got mad because to thought she "bought" a free ride by sacrificing those 2 bowl games and giving away scholarships? NCAA hit her with the big charge. Why? If you don't think that picture of her stupid smiling face had anything to do with that, you are being silly. Her own, who protect each other to the death normally, turned their back on her and gave the thumbs down verdict. Even super IQ Randy knew not to tough that crook. Donna was lucky she didn't get a "show cause" letter because she deserved it(as did Foote).

Nonsense. The school gave it back when they LATER found out it was money gained from illegal means. I'll take the FBIs version over yours any day.
 
LULZ at anyone that believes the troll didn't know Shapiro and his money were dirty when Radio did. The extent that people will go to defend that P.O.S. is mind boggling!!

A) Even the FBI couldn't track down any wrongdoing for over a year as stated in their report on Shapiro. There was nothing to say he was "dirty", just a loudmouth, obnoxious, booster who thought he was more important and entitled than he was.

B) The owner of the bowling alley and friend of Shapiro, as well as others at the event, said Shapiro wasn't even supposed to be at the event. He just showed up, walked up there, and handed her a check.

Whine about the hiring of ADs and coaches all you like, but trying to pretend that the Administration was in on Shapiro's crimes is just BS.

But he's doing 20 yrs for a ponzi scheme? Yeah your excuses make sense. Showing up at a bowling alley and just handing over a check is not normal booster behavior. Please stop, there is no defense for him or the troll. By the way, I never said the administration was in on anything but choosing to look the other way, while overriding your head coach and allowing that weasel around your student athletes, means you are just as guilty.

Yes, he was caught later. At the time, there was no evidence of wrongdoing. Did you read the FBI report that was released? I did. The lead investigator discussed how the case was stagnant for a good year because even they could not find evidence against him. Shapiro was described by the lead investigator as the most convincing and accomplished liar he had encountered in his career with the FBI investigating these kinds of cases. There is no defense for Shapiro. Trying to blame a university president for accepting donations from a booster who while obnoxious,arrogant, and over-the-top, had no signs of illegal behavior, is ridiculous.

You are wrong. There is due diligence to be done when accepting money. The source of the money matters a great dell. If you have standards you check. If you are low-lift crooked slime like all Clintonites, you take the money and smile. When your head football coach tells his players to stay away from a big money donor and your people have to order him to let the guy hang out, ANYONE knows something is wrong. Donna is supposedly one of those smartest guys in the room types -- you self-proclaimed genius. She is the President of a major international university and should have known better. She is either stupider than Randy or a crook, there really isn't another option. Pretending there is calls your status into question.

..and that due diligence was done. Nothing was found until much later. Even the FBI said as much. Randy didn't like Shapiro because he was a loudmouth, obnoxious jerk who was a bad influence on the players. That has exactly zero to do with the money itself being dirty money from illegal activities.
 
For the record.

Butch Davis has been exonerated of any and all involvement in the current LOIC at UNC.

Butch Davis is still the one and only true choice for head coach at The U. (Gary Patterson excepted of course as 2nd fiddle)
How was he already exonerated in this case when they just sent out the first notice of the violations yesterday? This case is separate from the previous one.
 
:stephenahand:

Sometimes, the "Butch fest" is fun to read.

But some of y'all are too over the top.

He was an awesome coach for us ... Should have stayed and reaped the rewards of the dynasty he built. But he chose a different path!

It's a different day in college football ... Butch isn't the coach Saban or Meyer are ... And at his age, he won't "develop" into them. He missed his window to be an all-time legend. Sucks for him, and sucks for us ...

But he ain't coming back to be the HC at Miami. And he wasn't, even before this info came out ... No matter what posters might post on this site.

No recruit is considering Miami because "Butch might be the coach" ... They don't care about him! South Florida kids might have enough folks still drinking the Kool-Aid that tell them about Butch, but national recruits don't know or care about him. The only folks pining for Butch are the over 40 guys wishing to reclaim their status in the college football world. Move on, "Al Bundy" ... We know you scored 4 TDs in a single high school game 25 years ago ...

Butch left Miami in 1999 ... Not, 2009. Some of y'all really have separation issues ... LOL
 
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