UM (Michigan) in big trouble ?

Everyone cheats. Outside of maybe a few guys, every head coach at a major program would take any “illegal” advantage he could get if he knew he would not get caught. No program has clean hands. It’s a very dirty business. In fact, it is one where you cannot succeed (win championships) without cheating at scale. That cheating could be in the form of sign stealing, or it could be buying players, among other things. Glass houses
 
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Everyone cheats. Outside of maybe a few guys, every head coach at a major program would take any “illegal” advantage he could get if he knew he would not get caught. No program has clean hands. It’s a very dirty business. In fact, it is one where you cannot succeed (win championships) without cheating at scale. That cheating could be in the form of sign stealing, or it could be buying players, among other things. Glass houses
Meanwhile…

Penn State’s program continues uninterrupted, even after being involved in actual criminal conduct of the most egregious kind for decades.

But everybody wants to call in the SWAT team on Michigan.
 
And is even on record describing Stallions' role as bringing a military-style operation to deliver tactical advantages.

Ask anyone if they think the Astros cheated. The answer is yes. Michigan did the exact same thing in football form. Signals aren't as easy in football as 1- fastball 2- curveball, etc. but they also had to decipher signals with a runner on 2nd and so on and Stallions did something similar recording and charting until he figured it out. Something you can't do with the TV copy or on gameday. You might get 5 total playcalls and signals from a TV copy. That is the most ridiculous defense that Michigan fans are using right now.

You can also keep signals from the prior year that you chart from the sidelines and maybe help you the following year but chances are it has changed enough. They also shield it from the opposing sidelines for that reason.

Sign stealing is fine if it is done in game without the use of technology. As soon as technology comes into play and you're deliberately hiding it.. nah. The head man can deny directing it and all that, maybe he didn't coordinate it himself, but he knew. You've got the guy standing beside your coordinators literally giving them the play and you're on the same head set and you're in the game planning and strategizing meetings. Having been in those locker roms as a player and assistant... there is absolutely zero chance he had no idea.
The plausible deniability argument from Harbaugh holds no validity whatsoever considering all they have to do is ask where Stallions got his info from & how.

You can't even steal signals from regular All-22 game film, you can get an idea of what may be happening, but doing it live in the field of play after having already filmed & essentially spied on the opposing team the previous weeks before they played you is an entirely different thing altogether.

It would be like stealing the answer sheet to your Finals exams, then showing up & acting like you aced the test.
 
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Harbaugh had no idea that the guy WHO HE HIRED ON HIS STAFF, was stealing signals...

He just had him standing next to his Coordinators on the sideline literally telling them which plays were coming next from their opponents. But he in no way was aware of any signal stealing going on...

Connor Stallions had no prior history as a Coach or any connection to Coaching Football whatsoever, Jimothy just hired him for sh*t & giggles.
You know how this works lol. It’s always some low level assistant , wr coach or recruiting coordinator who must lay on thy sword. Even though everyone knows it was common knowledge.
 

Totally off-topic but Penn State's social media team kicks the **** out of ours. We do weekly pressers but I've never seen a coach or coordinator in a video urging fans to show up or any content outside of pressers and Mario's show. Maybe a weekly 1 minute hype video.

I see them featuring Manny all the time. I'd love a hype speech from Guidry to hit my timeline every once in a while. A little fan interaction instead of the top secret, white house situation room/fort knox/area 51 attitude.
 
You know how this works lol. It’s always some low level assistant , wr coach or recruiting coordinator who must lay on thy sword. Even though everyone knows it was common knowledge.
I find it funny how Michigan knew other teams stole their signals but the HC didn't know about his own assistant stealing signals for Michigan. Riiiigggghhtttt.
 
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Totally off-topic but Penn State's social media team kicks the **** out of ours. We do weekly pressers but I've never seen a coach or coordinator in a video urging fans to show up or any content outside of pressers and Mario's show. Maybe a weekly 1 minute hype video.

I see them featuring Manny all the time. I'd love a hype speech from Guidry to hit my timeline every once in a while. A little fan interaction instead of the top secret, white house situation room/fort knox/area 51 attitude.

Maria tries to hide shid and then CIS breaks it anyways. No difference with the coaching or on-field performance. We had 3 buses of support staff at the NC State game. Mind boggling what they all really do.
 
You know how this works lol. It’s always some low level assistant , wr coach or recruiting coordinator who must lay on thy sword. Even though everyone knows it was common knowledge.
Harbaugh never knew. He didn't know a thing. No punishment for him lol
 
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Bro, these Michigan fans are a trip. Now the latest defense is that what we’re all seeing is actually computer generated and not a real person 😂

It isn't just Michigan fans that's a lot of people all over this country. There's people that'll believe whatever conspiracy that's drawn up. Not to make a political statement, but there's a **** ton of people who believe that last big election was fixed. Nevermind all the bs stories and outright lies you see all over the internet. People see something, don't fact check, and then just label it as fact in their minds because it fits their agenda.
 
It isn't just Michigan fans that's a lot of people all over this country. There's people that'll believe whatever conspiracy that's drawn up. Not to make a political statement, but there's a **** ton of people who believe that last big election was fixed. Nevermind all the bs stories and outright lies you see all over the internet. People see something, don't fact check, and then just label it as fact in their minds because it fits their agenda.
Lol what? Michigan's scheme to steal signals is a literal conspiracy in and of itself. It getting exposed doesn't mean it's not one.
 
I'm seeing some of the defenses that UM and their law team have come up with over the past days and weeks.

They're ****ed and they know it.
 
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The latest is HARBAUGH’S ATTYS have set forth a 9 page letter to the BIG 10 which has been published on Yahoo Sports. Desmond Howard has commented that this would never happen in the SEC; i.e., a Vanderbilt or low on the totem pole program trying to go after Saban. It just wouldn’t happen. The BIG 10 better be careful what they wish for. There is still NO PROOF & the lowly Purdue’s of the world are trying to crucify Harbaugh. If the BIG 10 commish listens to them he should be replaced. Dumb azzes.
 
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