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UGA is fed up with Kirby.

OriginalGatorHater said:
How is saying that Kirby is a better coach than Richt make someone an undercover fan? I guess if someone says Saban is a good coach they also are an undercover fan.
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Lol @ trying too use Saban as an example.

Your distaste for Richt has got you twisted. Kirby has done nothing. He is losing the games Richt would lose.

Richt is gone my man. He won't haunt you anymore.
 
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HurricaneHauk said:
Never did I say Leach is a recruiting god or elite all I said is he recruits better than those teams you listed. He's always going to lose recruiting battles to Washington, Oregon, USC, et because either those coaches are elite , Peterman, better recruiters Cristobal, or better programs, USC.

Then again he just signed his highest recruiting class ever and got massive amounts of good press with Minshaw and finished with the most wins in school history so we'll see how he recruits next year
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That is not true. You commented on one of my posts saying leach was bad as a recruiter and said my statement was false. I brought up the other schools latter on in the discussion. He loses out to those schools because the coaches out recruit him. The man had the best season in wazzou history and has 0 4 stars committed. LMAO. His class won't be good next year either because without Minshew he will be back to a middle of the pack pac 12 team.
 
HurricaneHauk said:
If a coach could recruit players, he would not need to rely on transfers to fill out spots. For example if Richt properly recruited QBs we wouldnt have to rely on a transfer QB



Christ

Penn State has a history correct? Would you agree? Have you even been to Penn State? It is gorgeous there. History + nice campus = easy to recruit

Wash St most famous for Ryan Leaf and Pullman is a dump = tougher to recruit

Go check Houston's transfers, all those 4* are from Texas, same as UCF all are from Florida

Clearly they wanted to be closer to home, would you agree? Or could Leach have convinced them to get to Pullman

Since when has Miami relied on on transfers until recently with all the new rules being implemented? Brock Berlin and Greg Olsen from over 15 years ago?
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Ok so let me just say this, but first let me just say that I'm a dumbass since my background is in science and electronics and I'm not a college grad... so football is very speculative, but a keen understanding as to what it takes to compete at a high level is paramount to succeed. Recruiting is a lot of hard work and it is a required expertise if you are to be a winner in P5 schools. I'm not sure if home cooking trumps a players desire to sign up with a top program... but a players perception of a schools value is key since he wants to be NFL material.
As to your point about transfers all I can say is I'm a dumbass... LOL
 
OBLIVION said:
Lol @ trying too use Saban as an example.

Your distaste for Richt has got you twisted. Kirby has done nothing. He is losing the games Richt would lose.

Richt is gone my man. He won't haunt you anymore.
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It really isn't lol. I was just using Saban as an example to prove my point. Saying another coach is good does not make you a bad fan. It just makes you a realist. Kirby has already went further than Richt has AND is recruiting at a much higher level which means he will be able to sustain this success. Morks success started to diminish once he lost all of Donnans recruits. If Kirby can do all this with good solid recruiting classes. Imagine what he will do when he has a team filled with junior and senior 5 stars.

That said I never said Kirby is elite. I just am saying he is better than Mork.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Did you ever ask your mommy to buy that reading comprehension book I told you about? If not you can start on this. It shouldn't take you more than a few hours to complete it, but feel free to use the entire weekend to finish it so you don't have any silly mistakes.
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Ouchhh!
 
OBLIVION said:
We got some undercover UGA fans up in here. Dudes arguing for this man like he has some ties to this school.

Kirby is a bum in big games. This man had two chances to stamp his name as an elite coach and choked them away.
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This is Kirby in the 4rh quarter vs Saban


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gruntking said:
Ok so let me just say this, but first let me just say that I'm a dumbass since my background is in science and electronics and I'm not a college grad... so football is very speculative, but a keen understanding as to what it takes to compete at a high level is paramount to succeed. Recruiting is a lot of hard work and it is a required expertise if you are to be a winner in P5 schools. I'm not sure if home cooking trumps a players desire to sign up with a top program... but a players perception of a schools value is key since he wants to be NFL material.
As to your point about transfers all I can say is I'm a dumbass... LOL
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So all these "reject" 4 star players who are from Texas and failed at their respective teams for whatever reason are transferring to Houston because it is a top program? Same with "reject" 4* Florida kids who go to USF and UCF?

Golly

Must be a coincidence these highly recruited players are all going to these LOCAL powerhouse teams and not an Ohio State/Bama/etc right?
 
HurricaneHauk said:
So all these "reject" 4 star players who are from Texas and failed at their respective teams for whatever reason are transferring to Houston because it is a top program? Same with "reject" 4* Florida kids who go to USF and UCF?

Golly

Must be a coincidence these highly recruited players are all going to these LOCAL powerhouse teams and not an Ohio State/Bama/etc right?
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OK I hear you but I'm the type where I like to see documents and dependable stats and data that has been researched. But I'm listening to you and also keeping an open mind.
Carry on...
 
HurricaneHauk said:
So all these "reject" 4 star players who are from Texas and failed at their respective teams for whatever reason are transferring to Houston because it is a top program? Same with "reject" 4* Florida kids who go to USF and UCF?

Golly

Must be a coincidence these highly recruited players are all going to these LOCAL powerhouse teams and not an Ohio State/Bama/etc right?
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Golly! They never should have signed a scrub like Ed Oliver. The kid never would have made it on a P5 team. Thank god he signed with Houston or he never would have came off the bench.

4 star kids transfer out of schools like ND or Baylor because they get passed up by other elite 4 star kids. Then they transfer to schools they have a good chance of getting playing time. It is not smart to transfer to a school like Bama or OSU which is loaded with 4 and 5 stars and they aren't gaurunteed a starting position. What is Wazzous excuse for not landing the USC, Washington, Oregon kids that transfer out of there?
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
Did you ever ask your mommy to buy that reading comprehension book I told you about? If not you can start on this. It shouldn't take you more than a few hours to complete it, but feel free to use the entire weekend to finish it so you don't have any silly mistakes.
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When I told my mommy who recommended the book she laughed until she had tears in her eyes and then told me; "You do know, little Earnest T. Bass, that you could drill a hole through one side of that boy's head, come out the other side, and never hit a brain. I resisted and said; "He and what they call a Herd tell everyone that they are University of Miami football experts." Well, then mommy really began to laugh hysterically and said; "Honey, that crowd winds their butts and shine their watches."

 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Also, I almost forgot. The SEC was so bad in those days they left out an undefeated SEC team to allow an undefeated Pac-12 and Big 12 team play in the NC.
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They weren't "left out". USC/Oklahoma were preseason #1/2 and ran the table, which is how things worked up until the CFP committee came into existence. That has jack **** to do with strength of conference.
 
hughhoney said:
They weren't "left out". USC/Oklahoma were preseason #1/2 and ran the table, which is how things worked up until the CFP committee came into existence. That has jack **** to do with strength of conference.
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It has everythng to do with strength of conference. Now an undefeated SEC team is going to be the number 1 pick seed every single year.

The fact that the SEC was seen as so weak coming into the season that they left out an undefeated Auburn team tells you everything you need to know about how weak the SEC was at that time.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
I was going off the AP because the BCS playoff rankings didn't exist in 2002 so actually we were number 11, but either way you are correct. The SEC east is CLEARLY better now than it was back then. Florida under Mullen is better than Zooks. Vanderbilt is a lot better now. Kentuck is WAY better now. USCe is a lot better now. The only team that is worse is Tenn. Yes, they were more overrated back then. Back in the early 00s the SEC was actually overated. Now they are head and shoulders better than the 2nd best conf. and it is not even close.
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Well UCF was #10, and they also went to a NY6 bowl.

I'm not going to have this debate with you anymore. Florida and Tennessee were blue blood programs that Richt had to deal with, first with Spurrier and then the Meyer years, and Fulmer for several years. Spurrier's South Carolina teams were far, far better than Muschamp's. Kirby dealing with a bunch of overachieving flashes in the pan simply doesn't compare.
 
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OriginalGatorHater said:
It has everythng to do with strength of conference. Now an undefeated SEC team is going to be the number 1 pick seed every single year.

The fact that the SEC was seen as so weak coming into the season that they left out an undefeated Auburn team tells you everything you need to know about how weak the SEC was at that time.
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You obviously weren't following college football back then. Oklahoma and USC were powerhouses, Auburn was not. You keep saying the "SEC" would get whatever, but it's really only Alabama. Because they are the powerhouse. You're proven wrong by Clemson being ranked above Georgia last year with similar records and both conference champions.
 
hughhoney said:
Well UCF was #10, and they also went to a NY6 bowl.

I'm not going to have this debate with you anymore. Florida and Tennessee were blue blood programs that Richt had to deal with, first with Spurrier and then the Meyer years, and Fulmer for several years. Spurrier's South Carolina teams were far, far better than Muschamp's. Kirby dealing with a bunch of overachieving flashes in the pan simply doesn't compare.
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Florida beat Mork twice in his first 3 years and 2 of the teams he players was with Zook. That is another big difference between kirby and Mork. Kirby actually has a winning record against UF in those first 3 years. We are not talking about the Meyer years. We are talking about Morks first 3 years in the SEC and Kirbys. Holts USCe teams in those 3 years missed 2 bowl games they were so bad. Muschamps USCe is a solid to good team.

As I stated before. The ONLY team in the SECE that is better now(besides UGA) than it was in Morks first 3 years was Tennessee.
 
hughhoney said:
You obviously weren't following college football back then. Oklahoma and USC were powerhouses, Auburn was not. You keep saying the "SEC" would get whatever, but it's really only Alabama. Because they are the powerhouse. You're proven wrong by Clemson being ranked above Georgia last year with similar records and both conference champions.
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I was watching college football back then. That is why I am bringing it up. That is not true. Pretty much any SEC team that ran the table this year would have ended up being the number 1 or 2 seed at worst because they had to run the SEC gauntlet. In the early 2000s that didn't hold as much weight because the conf was weaker. We were talking about undefeated teams. Not 1 loss teams. 1 loss teams are hard to discuss in this debate because when you lose plays a large part in seeding. That said the SEC was so good last year they ended up with 2 SEC teams in the NC.
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Florida beat Mork twice in his first 3 years and 2 of the teams he players was with Zook. That is another big difference between kirby and Mork. Kirby actually has a winning record against UF in those first 3 years. We are not talking about the Meyer years. We are talking about Morks first 3 years in the SEC and Kirbys. Holts USCe teams in those 3 years missed 2 bowl games they were so bad. Muschamps USCe is a solid to good team.

As I stated before. The ONLY team in the SECE that is better now(besides UGA) than it was in Morks first 3 years was Tennessee.
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UF was NOT better in 2018 than they were in 2001. That's why this whole argument is stupid. Florida sucked balls for two of the three seasons for both, and this 2018 team was a flash in the pan that caught some breaks. The 2001 team was a 2point conversion away from playing for a NC. Don't bring up South Carolina at all then, they are a terrible program now, just lost to UVa 28-0 and they weren't any better the previous 2 years.
 
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