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Ty Simpson (is not yet in the portal)

P-Tizzle said:
Now, if you want to change the argument, then we can do that.

So, new argument.

"Do you think Simpson would make more money being picked late first round (at best) this year or top 10 next year"? That answer is obvious lol. Of course top ten pick in 2027 makes more money than 2026 late first round pick. LOL.

But again, that was never my argument. I have contended from the beginning, that I'm (ME, not others, ME) arguing that Ty Simpson would make more money in 2026 in NFL salary (including bonuses) than he would make in 2026 through his NIL agreement. And others, when they have understand my argument, have agreed with me. In fact, you did too.

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AGAIN.....your short sighted argument is great. You are the type that would take $100 right now instead of $10 a day over the next 30 days.
 
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pyhooya said:
AGAIN.....your short sighted argument is great. You are the type that would take $100 right now instead of $10 a day over the next 30 days.
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that's a bit uncharitable especially when I have ALREADY agreed that if Simpson returns to college, pockets $3m-$5m, and then improves his draft stock to a top 10 pick, he would certainly make more money. But that hasn't been my argument. My entire argument is 2026 NIL vs NFL (if a first round pick). And I'm right in my argument. And you are correct (and I wholeheartedly agree), the better long term financial option for Simpson is NIL and then turn pro in 2027.
 
P-Tizzle said:
But the signing bonus is paid out the first year.

So, in 2026 (and only considering 2026), if taken in the first round of the draft, Simpson would make more money from the NFL (salary plus signing bonus) than he would make in NIL.

And two guys that have disagreed with me (I think because they misunderstood, no harm of course) now agree with me with what I just said.
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If you add a 4 year contract’s signing bonus into it then obviously that adds up to more so why do guys at the end of the 1st or 2nd round choose less in your scenario to come back to college?

Because they don’t factor the signing bonus for the match or to beat in this situation. It’s salary based not bonus. They are betting that with another year they’ll get top 5-10 salary and bonus a year later while making more salary in year 1.
 
P-Tizzle said:
that's a bit uncharitable especially when I have ALREADY agreed that if Simpson returns to college, pockets $3m-$5m, and then improves his draft stock to a top 10 pick, he would certainly make more money. But that hasn't been my argument. My entire argument is 2026 NIL vs NFL (if a first round pick). And I'm right in my argument. And you are correct (and I wholeheartedly agree), the better long term financial option for Simpson is NIL and then turn pro in 2027.
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If he’s in the 2nd half of the 1st round he’ll make more money over the ling haul coming to miami for a year if if if he improves his game.
 
ssvir said:
There was no misunderstanding.

Of course if he gets the NFL signing bonus in 2026 instead of 2027 he would TECHNICALLY be making more in 2026.

Will he make more money in 2027 being in the 2nd year of his NFL contract and no more signing bonus or a rookie year contract in 2027 with the signing bonus added? Obviously it's 2027 when the signing bonus is paid.

The point is if you compare two years in the NFL vs one year at Miami plus one year in the NFL the Miami route means more overall money b/c the signing bonus is not relevant - he will get it in either 2026 or 2027 regardless.
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1. You're not one of the two guys I was referencing.

2. You keep bringing up 2027 and 2nd year in the NFL.....I've made it clear that isn't my argument. I'm strictly speaking of 2026 NIL vs NFL. And I'm right. You said so i.e., "of course if he gets the NFL signing bonus in 2026....". That's my argument. He would get that bonus within 60 days of signing his 2026 NFL contract.

I appreciate you. No hard feelings, please.
 
RVACane said:
If he’s in the 2nd half of the 1st round he’ll make more money over the ling haul coming to miami for a year if if if he improves his game.
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My argument is not the "long haul". if my argument was the "long haul" I would agree with you. But it's not. It's strictly 2026 NIL vs NFL (if he's taken in the first round; salary plus signing bonus).
 
Will Ty Simpson be the first player to get drafted and return to college football without playing/signing with the NFL team? By this, I mean he goes 2-3rd round and decides to make more $$$ going back to college for a year to also help raise his value.
 
There is a success correlation for quarterbacks based on the number of games played in college. The chances of a QB playing 1 year and being successful is very low. It would benefit him long term to play another season of college to help with the processing speed needed to be a good NFL QB.
 
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90scane said:
Will Ty Simpson be the first player to get drafted and return to college football without playing/signing with the NFL team? By this, I mean he goes 2-3rd round and decides to make more $$$ going back to college for a year to also help raise his value.
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Declaring for the draft and getting drafted is choosing to forfeit your remaining eligibility. Any court challenge to that would essentially eliminate Ty Simpson from playing this upcoming year even with an injunction because nobody is going to wait until May to have their starting QB decide (when the draft is) …Well at least no top paying school that is.
 
CaneMutiny06 said:
Not necessarily. Everyone assuming Simpson is definitely going in the draft has forgotten both our 2 most recent starting QBs did the same thing.

Now, if he has a low-first round grade, it would probably take close to $5 million to get him to come back.

If he doesn't enter the portal by the 16th then it’s set in stone he’s NFL-bound
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fwiw the portal isn’t required to transfer. Tho I expect we’ll know the answer before then.
 
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sstcane said:
There is a success correlation for quarterbacks based on the number of games played in college. The chances of a QB playing 1 year and being successful is very low. It would benefit him long term to play another season of college to help with the processing speed needed to be a good NFL QB.
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True. The most successful quarterbacks in the NFL generally played the most college ball. In recent seasons, the rookies that started off the best played the most in college. No guarantee, of course, but I can’t think of a quarterback who was a one year starter, went pro and was successful. It’s hard enough when you have experience.
 
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