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supersaiyanshel said:
Coley was in the reverse Richt --

His strong suit was game planning. He usually had a decent scheme for the first half to exploit the other teams deficiencies. Unfortunately, he was no bueno at making adjustments, which is probably Richt's best attribute as an OC.

The thing is, with our talent level right now, I feel like with decent game planning and scheming, we could and should be putting teams to bed by the end of the first quarter.
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You are absolutely correct sir, coach coley was damyum near a hall of fame play-caller on first series drives, after that, he was waiver wire material.
 
supersaiyanshel said:
Coley was in the reverse Richt --

His strong suit was game planning. He usually had a decent scheme for the first half to exploit the other teams deficiencies. Unfortunately, he was no bueno at making adjustments, which is probably Richt's best attribute as an OC.

The thing is, with our talent level right now, I feel like with decent game planning and scheming, we could and should be putting teams to bed by the end of the first quarter.
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If making adjustments is CMR’s best attribute as an OC than we are truly Fvcked.
 
MIA42178 said:
Manny Diaz defense + Jedd Fisch or James Coley offense = playoffs regularly and acccg annually

/ We may have entered the twilight zone boys
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False - if Richt is still HC.

We aren't an OC away from playoffs. That's hogwash.

We have special teams issues, strength & conditioning program is weak af, and the head coach ain't a killer.

A new OC doesn't fix that. Plus a new OC is forced to work with Jon Richt, Searles, and Hartley. Zero % chance those assistants are good enough to just adopt an entirely new scheme (like a true spread). Searles is an old school, 90's OL coach. Has no experience coaching an OL in a spread offense.

Jon Richt is an amateur. His father put him in a bad situation - I don't blame the kid.

And Hartley is garbage. He can recruit, but it ends there.
 
i dont think Fisch enjoyed recruiting. if you look at his misses at the helm.... whew, but if you only limit him to QBs i think him and CMR would be able to pull a top 5 guy every class
 
Calvin said:
Than you would've hated the early butch davis years if you got problems with coach richt!
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Yeah...because its a cinch to be a Great playcaller down 31 schollies...can barely hold a F-ing practice because of a previous regimes F-ups....and all you can pull out of the toilet is gameplanning in 96 & 97....
 
The fascination with the james coley is hilarious.

2-3 pre scripted drives then we were traditionally shut down by good defenses. Wouldn't be any different
 
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Manny's not going anywhere unless he's offered a Head Coaching job. He'd only leave for the right Head Coaching job even if Richt had this Offense humming.
Why would he leave The U to become a D-Co. at another school? He'd have to come back to South Fl. and recruit the same players he's recruiting, he's built a Top D and would have to start over at a new school, and he's a Miami native. On top of it the Defense is recognized Nationally and he gets credit for it whether the offense is working or not.

BWCD said:
Fisch, yes. Coley, no. Coley lost anything I had for him with his bonehead HB pass call in the bowl game in the snow against Wazzu.

Here's the real nightmare part though...if we can't get the offense right somehow this year to help the D, it's almost a certainty that Manny will bolt to another job (possibly a HC gig), and Richt will use that as an excuse ("we need to focus on finding a new DC") to continue to ignore the need for an actual OC to be hired and take over the playcalling. So - we'll see more of the same on offense and have to break in a new DC...not to mention all of the departures likely coming on the defensive side of the football.
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He must be some what decent? He was promoted to Co-Offensive Coordinator at UGa after serving as WR Coach for 2 yrs. & the guy can recruit.

I'm not sure if Coley was the problem or Golden handcuffed him. Coley would call a Great 1st half and then the 2nd half the offense would try and sit on the lead

mjackson6 said:
The fascination with the james coley is hilarious.

2-3 pre scripted drives then we were traditionally shut down by good defenses. Wouldn't be any different
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caneinorlando said:
Yeah...because its a cinch to be a Great playcaller down 31 schollies...can barely hold a F-ing practice because of a previous regimes F-ups....and all you can pull out of the toilet is gameplanning in 96 & 97....
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Im glad you understand schalorship reductions, you should remember everything you just posted when it comes to what coach richt took over and realize how much has been fixed but how much more needs to be fixed and stop acting as if coach richt took over a championship roster.
 
Calvin said:
Im glad you understand schalorship reductions, you should remember everything you just posted when it comes to what coach richt took over and realize how much has been fixed but how much more needs to be fixed and stop acting as if coach richt took over a championship roster.
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He took over ALOT better team than Butch had in 95...Ericksons recruiting was mediocre at best (notorious lazy recruiter) from 92-94....Stop it....To compare what Butch was left with and to weather in his 1st 3yrs, to what Richt has, is Douchebaggery at its finest..
 
caneinorlando said:
He took over ALOT better team than Butch had in 95...Ericksons recruiting was mediocre at best (notorious lazy recruiter) from 92-94....Stop it....To compare what Butch was left with and to weather in his 1st 3yrs, to what Richt has, is Douchebaggery at its finest..
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That's common sense, but o-line wise, its about the same right now as when davis took over, of course the overall team is in way better condition but lets not act like the last moron regime was recruiting o-linemen and d-linemen at a high level, the roster was mismanaged from that standpoint, to go along with the schalorship reductions and the affects of all that is being seen this season and especially next season. Only the rapid development of the young o-linemen and maybe a few juco or graduate transfer can help to expediate those flaws!
 
sitzee said:
Manny's not going anywhere unless he's offered a Head Coaching job. He'd only leave for the right Head Coaching job even if Richt had this Offense humming.
Why would he leave The U to become a D-Co. at another school? He'd have to come back to South Fl. and recruit the same players he's recruiting, he's built a Top D and would have to start over at a new school, and he's a Miami native. On top of it the Defense is recognized Nationally and he gets credit for it whether the offense is working or not.
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I get what you're saying, but Manny could definitely leave. His stock is going to be SUPER high this offseason if things keep up the way they are. I'd say he will get some HC offers (I do agree w/your point that he'd leave for the right one).

With his stock this high and all the players we have likely departing...it could be a smart move for him to leave. Sell to the highest bidder when his stock is high. I don't want him to leave - **** no...but I could see a scenario where he sees that Richt isn't taking steps to fix the offense and he's seeing his defensive performances getting perpetually squandered...he may go elsewhere to get away from that.
 
Calvin said:
That's common sense, but o-line wise, its about the same right now as when davis took over, of course the overall team is in way better condition but lets not act like the last moron regime was recruiting o-linemen and d-linemen at a high level, the roster was mismanaged from that standpoint, to go along with the schalorship reductions and the affects of all that is being seen this season and especially next season. Only the rapid development of the young o-linemen and maybe a few juco or graduate transfer can help to expediate those flaws!
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OL was terrible even before Butch was there (see 93-94)...Butch had nothing mid 90s except KC Jones....
 
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supersaiyanshel said:
Coley was in the reverse Richt --

His strong suit was game planning. He usually had a decent scheme for the first half to exploit the other teams deficiencies. Unfortunately, he was no bueno at making adjustments, which is probably Richt's best attribute as an OC.

The thing is, with our talent level right now, I feel like with decent game planning and scheming, we could and should be putting teams to bed by the end of the first quarter.
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With sound coaching, LSU is a toss up, we saw what bad coaching got us.

Every team, including VaTech, we should have a sizable talent advantage. This makes the UVA loss sting that much more.
 
borncane said:
False. We would still need a qb and OL.
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There is no way to know, but I bet you Coley or Fisch would have this offense top 30 at least with Perry at the helm, and with the talent we have around him
 
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