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Travis Williams Officially Gone!

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If it happens, it happens. Cant be mad. ****, our head coach did the same to Temple. Money & prestige talks. Just as long as a contingency plan is in place, jic. That’s all that matters. I like that Manny thought outside of the box & went away from a comfort zone. Hope this doesn’t snake bite him & he’s willing to go outside that box again.

More importantly, I hope it doesn’t happen b/c I like T-Will & he should help our core & replenish our LBs via recruiting. But from a business standpoint, not mad at the guy.
 
Ethnicsands said:
Manny should know enough to ask for a first year commitment from someone before he hires them. At least a look me in the eye moral commitment. If they won't give you that, you should know this ain't where they want to be. The coaching profession is a network business so people wouldn't take that sort of commitment lightly.

The quit before you start thing is a real detriment to our continuity in recruiting and planning. I don't fault T Will for doing what's in his interest. I do wonder whether we were clear enough about what he wants to do.
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When the man accepts the job it’s at least a one year commitment.
 
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Would have been nice for us to get even one season out of TWill. And not just for the recruiting and potential player development.
If TWill leaves for a DC position after a complete season, at least Manny can try to use TWill's promotion to sell the job to the next guy.
 
Ethnicsands said:
Manny should know enough to ask for a first year commitment from someone before he hires them. At least a look me in the eye moral commitment. If they won't give you that, you should know this ain't where they want to be. The coaching profession is a network business so people wouldn't take that sort of commitment lightly.

The quit before you start thing is a real detriment to our continuity in recruiting and planning. I don't fault T Will for doing what's in his interest. I do wonder whether we were clear enough about what he wants to do.
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I am 1000% confident that Manny asked for at least a 1 year commitment-as does every head coach. Just like Temple asked for a commitment from Manny. This is just the nature of business and it happens at Google and Tesla and Amazon. Even with a contract it is almost impossible to stop someone from leaving job A for job B. The only exception is a Non-compete clause, but even a Non-compete has to be limited in duration and scope; meaning it can't be forever and it can't be everywhere for any period of time. We are a country that believes in an individual's right to work and our courts enforce that.
All that to say there is no commitment that will stop someone from leaving for a "better" job as that person defines "better". And in sports, no school or program or team will ever try to stop a coach from moving because these coaches all hire each other.
5 years from now Manny may be fired and want a job s a DC and Williams may be a head coach looking for a DC.
 
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AtlAtty said:
I am 1000% confident that Manny asked for at least a 1 year commitment-as does every head coach. Just like Temple asked for a commitment from Manny. This is just the nature of business and it happens at Google and Tesla and Amazon. Even with a contract it is almost impossible to stop someone from leaving job A for job B. The only exception is a Non-compete clause, but even a Non-compete has to be limited in duration and scope; meaning it can't be forever and it can't be everywhere for any period of time. We are a country that believes in an individual's right to work and our courts enforce that.
All that to say there is no commitment that will stop someone from leaving for a "better" job as that person defines "better". And in sports, no school or program or team will ever try to stop a coach from moving because these coaches all hire each other.
5 years from now Manny may be fired and want a job s a DC and Williams may be a head coach looking for a DC.
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You sound like a lawyer, not a business person.

I am 1000% sure that not every manager making a hiring decision (or company involved in them) ask for a 1 year commitment, despite your being convinced to the contrary.

So, we're at an impasse. You think every head coach and hirer asks for this. I say 'not true.'

Taking about remedies is irrelevant because no one suggested there was a contractual remedy to debate here. There are ways to handle that, but that's not what is at issue here.
 
Here’s a good test to see how much Miami really wants to compete in football. Will they come up with the money, and possibly job title, to keep someone like T-will? Or will they let him walk to a lower tier school?
 
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Ethnicsands said:
You sound like a lawyer, not a business person.

I am 1000% sure that not every manager making a hiring decision (or company involved in them) ask for a 1 year commitment, despite your being convinced to the contrary.

So, we're at an impasse. You think every head coach and hirer asks for this. I say 'not true.'

Taking about remedies is irrelevant because no one suggested there was a contractual remedy to debate here. There are ways to handle that, but that's not what is at issue here.
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It’s called a buyout and they all have em. I think? No? I really don’t know... 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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