Transfer players are always our biggest DAWGS

[CanesAreAble]

Meanwhile too many of our homegrown players are used to the Club Med atmosphere.

Stevenson already looks a cut above, and Rambo chewed out Donaldson for half-assing it on that screen pass.

These guys know what real programs are supposed to look like.

They must be sick to their stomachs with our Slip N Slide culture.

It's like when Avon Barksdale came home and kicked those knuckleheads out of his party.

"Yo, where the discipline at, man?"

 

[JHallCanes]

Problem is I think some of our freshman and sophs are bigtime dogs but they’re gonna get it taken out of them

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Tyriq McCord made a comment on Twitter earlier that, after the 58-0 prison raping Clemson gave us in 2015, a few of the players went out on a party bus and got ****ed up. On Sunday, there seemed to be some discussion about that in the athletic building from the majority of the players who felt that wasn't appropriate.

Bottom line, you can have good "culture", but if your players and coaches suck, you can still get beat 58-0 at home. You guys tend to put too much stock into this stuff. You know what breeds good culture? Beating the **** out of teams. You know how you beat the **** out of teams? Really good players mixed with good coaching.

Our transfer players look better than most of the kids on the team because they are. Stevenson was the 37th ranked overall recruit in the country. You're surprised that he's better than DJ Ivey? Jaelen Phillips was the #1 overall recruit in the country. You're surprised that he's better than Zach McCloud?

 

[redrum234]

Maybe we can make it a policy to have our players attend a real university first then transfer to the U.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Maybe we can make it a policy to have our players attend a real university first then transfer to the U.

Seems like a good idea. I'll raise you one, though. Recruit Tyrique Stevenson to come here out of high school. Cool part about that is we get him for more than 1 year.

 

[[]_[] swag]

Could this be in part due to our recruiting strategy?

It seems like our coaches are always tweeting about palm trees beaches and the Miami good life. I know that’s an advantage we need to use, but we may be overusing it.

Kids who want to win are spurning us for Georgia and Alabama and we’re ending up with a bunch of kids who want the Miami lifestyle.

 

[moneymanj]

Problem is I think some of our freshman and sophs are bigtime dogs but they’re gonna get it taken out of them

Yeah they always get pussified after a while

 

[ssvir]

Seems like a good idea. I'll raise you one, though. Recruit Tyrique Stevenson to come here out of high school. Cool part about that is we get him for more than 1 year.

Only need 6-figures of Bitcoin per recruit you want to do this for.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Could this be in part due to our recruiting strategy?

It seems like our coaches are always tweeting about palm trees beaches and the Miami good life. I know that’s an advantage we need to use, but we may be overusing it.

Kids who want to win are spurning us for Georgia and Alabama and we’re ending up with a bunch of kids who want the Miami lifestyle.

It's the chicken and the egg discussion we've had for 15 years. Want to win? Recruit good players. How do you recruit good players? Win. It's hard to do one without the other. Which is the reason you can scroll through the 247 recruiting rankings over the past 6-7 years and what do you see? The same teams at the top. It's hard to break that cycle.

 

[TheEye]

Culture of S. Fl. "What have you done for me lately?" It applies to players. It applies to fans. It even applies to coaching candidates.


All sizzle. No steak.

In other programs with depth, that culture is beaten out of you. Here, without legit depth, players either get coddled or transfer.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Only need 6-figures of Bitcoin per recruit you want to do this for.

Agreed. And we don't have that. So, hate to be a Debbie Downer, if you recruit like a Top 15-20 school, you're probably going to play like a Top 15-20 school. If we want to throw our hands up and say we can't land elite kids because we don't pay enough, then we probably should temper expectations on the field to match how well we recruit our roster. As if the on-field product hasn't proven that enough in the last decade and a half...….

 

[KrazyCane]

Tyriq McCord made a comment on Twitter earlier that, after the 58-0 prison raping Clemson gave us in 2015, a few of the players went out on a party bus and got ****ed up. On Sunday, there seemed to be some discussion about that in the athletic building from the majority of the players who felt that wasn't appropriate.

Bottom line, you can have good "culture", but if your players and coaches suck, you can still get beat 58-0 at home. You guys tend to put too much stock into this stuff. You know what breeds good culture? Beating the **** out of teams. You know how you beat the **** out of teams? Really good players mixed with good coaching.

Our transfer players look better than most of the kids on the team because they are. Stevenson was the 37th ranked overall recruit in the country. You're surprised that he's better than DJ Ivey? Jaelen Phillips was the #1 overall recruit in the country. You're surprised that he's better than Zach McCloud?

We had Jaalen Phillips last year and Rousseau the year before that and Miami still sucked. You need both but Coaching is far more important. That’s why Cincinnati would blow us out right now.

 

[Ziggy]

Agreed. I've noticed this trend for a bit now and it's concerning to say the least. ****, our best and most consistent players are our kicker and punter. Tells you all you need to know about the team and staff.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

We had Jaalen Phillips last year and Rousseau the year before that and Miami still sucked. You need both but Coaching is far more important. That’s why Cincinnati would blow us out right now.

We had Phillips and went 8-2 with him. We had Rousseau on a team quarterbacked by a kid who can't play at USF. Stop taking things so black and white. I'm not talking about 1 kid. Football is the ultimate team game. Coaching is certainly important but it will never trump talent at this level.

 

[90scane]

Meanwhile too many of our homegrown players are used to the Club Med atmosphere.

Stevenson already looks a cut above, and Rambo chewed out Donaldson for half-assing it on that screen pass.

These guys know what real programs are supposed to look like.

They must be sick to their stomachs with our Slip N Slide culture.

It's like when Avon Barksdale came home and kicked those knuckleheads out of his party.

"Yo, where the discipline at, man?"

Rambo should have been chewing out X. Normally X would have been expected to take on the CB but in this case, the CB was 10-15 yards off and backing out. X should have taken on the OLB giving Donaldson a free run at the CB/S or let him clean up the OLB that X slowed down. Hard to know if the coaches teach that but it was pretty clear who the number 1 threat was for X and he let that man run past him.

 

[soddyCane]

And they are some of the most passionate Canes too. Imagine if you had a few more that cared about the school in the way that KJ Osborn, Adrian Colbert, Jaelan Phillips, and King do.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Tyriq McCord made a comment on Twitter earlier that, after the 58-0 prison raping Clemson gave us in 2015, a few of the players went out on a party bus and got ****ed up. On Sunday, there seemed to be some discussion about that in the athletic building from the majority of the players who felt that wasn't appropriate.

Bottom line, you can have good "culture", but if your players and coaches suck, you can still get beat 58-0 at home. You guys tend to put too much stock into this stuff. You know what breeds good culture? Beating the **** out of teams. You know how you beat the **** out of teams? Really good players mixed with good coaching.

Our transfer players look better than most of the kids on the team because they are. Stevenson was the 37th ranked overall recruit in the country. You're surprised that he's better than DJ Ivey? Jaelen Phillips was the #1 overall recruit in the country. You're surprised that he's better than Zach McCloud?

I'm talking about Rambo. I'm talking about KJ Osborn coming in and snatching chains. The UNLV guy came in after one game and gave Scaife the big boot.

 

[JayCane20]

Rambo should have been chewing out X. Normally X would have been expected to take on the CB but in this case, the CB was 10-15 yards off and backing out. X should have taken on the OLB giving Donaldson a free run at the CB/S or let him clean up the OLB that X slowed down. Hard to know if the coaches teach that but it was pretty clear who the number 1 threat was for X and he let that man run past him.

Rambo shouldn’t have been chewing out anyone. Play was dead regardless because he stopped to catch it. Should have been running hard back towards the ball and that tackler would have had to go through Donaldson or take the 5 mile detour around him to make that play.

 

[90scane]

Rambo shouldn’t have been chewing out anyone. Play was dead regardless because he stopped to catch it. Should have been running hard back towards the ball and that tackler would have had to go through Donaldson or take the 5 mile detour around him to make that play.

It is to the short side of the field and the pass is late. If he continues to run back towards King, the DL will also have an opportunity to tackle Rambo as he will have to take a 5 mile detour around Donaldson to the inside. Either way, the play only works to the short side if X takes the nearest defender and lets Donaldson clean up the mess. It was a good read by their LB, Donaldson was slow getting out, King was slow passing it, X ran past the defender attacking the ball... All in all, BAD execution by all involved.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Meanwhile too many of our homegrown players are used to the Club Med atmosphere.

Stevenson already looks a cut above, and Rambo chewed out Donaldson for half-assing it on that screen pass.

These guys know what real programs are supposed to look like.

They must be sick to their stomachs with our Slip N Slide culture.

It's like when Avon Barksdale came home and kicked those knuckleheads out of his party.

"Yo, where the discipline at, man?"

Get better players stop letting the Juedys and Stevenson's leave. Sfla has dogs they just don't go to UM