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Top 25 thread 9/24/23

I have no problems with the top 25 rankings. But the biggest fraud in the top 25 is OU people's. They haven't played nobody. The hardest 2 teams they played was Cincinnati and SMU. N they barely won them. If it wasn't from pre season top 25 they wouldn't be in the top 25. These are facts
 
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No Colorado? Lol

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Notre Dame didn't even know to put 11 players on the field for the final 2 crucial plays of the season - how are they ranked so highly?
 
dk72 said:
Agreed. While I dont like Penn St., they look good. My top 4 would be UGA, Penn St., Texas, Washington. Michigan and FSU are overrated.
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tbh, FSU prolly had the toughest schedule up to this point so far (3 p5 teams in 4 games). I can't call them overrated esp since LSU is likely gonna end up as a good W. Michigan is coming off a good year last year and haven't had their coach for most of the year. UGA hasn't played a single soul outside of what is a bad USCe team. if youre calling Mich and FSU overrated, UGA is right up there w them so far. legit their schedule is trash so far. Washington has been dominant in their Ws so far. Texas has looked okay to good outside of what is an extremely overrated Bama team
 
As should have been expected things continue to sort themselves out as teams in front of us lose. Nothing to be upset about now, and until an undefeated P5 team gets left out of the playoff, nothing to be upset about later either.
 
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Washington State leapfrogging us is goofy. I know Oregon State was a tougher opponent. But we still have the more signature win. The ranking inflation of ****** SEC and BiG teams in the top 20 is deliberate so they can sneak 1-loss teams into the playoffs and 2-loss teams onto New Years bowl games. The only chance a team from any other conference has of making the playoffs is to go undefeated.
 
We’re right where we should be. The polls, especially this early, are little more than fodder for conversation. Teams ahead of us play one another, so comes down to handling own business & ACC schedule.
 
grover said:
The only chance a team from any other conference has of making the playoffs is to go undefeated.
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I don’t think this is a reasonable concern, as there really isn’t much track record for it that isn’t at least somewhat justifiable. Incidentally the B1G is the conference that his has happened to the most, by a large margin. I have looked into it before, here is the history of 1 loss teams in power 5 conferences + notre dame as it pertains to being left out of the playoff:


- Most recently, Notre Dame with 1 loss was left out for an undefeated cinci (2021).

- There were three during the covid season, 1 was from the SEC (a&m), 1 was from the b1g (Indiana), and one played only 6 games that year in the pac (USC) (2020). That is if you even want to count this incomplete year in this.

- In 2018 there were three undefeated power 5 teams that made the playoff, and a 1 loss team from the big 12 got in over a 1 loss team from the big 10.

- In 2017 the 1 loss big 10 runner up did not get in over 1 loss alabama, who joined one loss teams from the ACC, big 12, and Georgia. This is probably your best supporting omission of a 1 loss team, except that it was a B1G team, and Alabama ended up winning the playoff that year.

- In 2015 two 1 loss teams from the big 10 didnt make the playoff (Iowa and Ohio State), instead it was one loss michigan state, oklahoma, alabama, and undefeated clemson.

- in 2014 two one loss big 12 teams were left out (baylor and TCU), but they played 1 less game with no conference title game than the three 1 loss teams and one undefeated team that made it (alabama, oregon, florida state, ohio state)

Scoreboard is:
Pac: 1
ACC: 0
Big 12: 2
SEC: 1
Big 10: 5
Notre Dame: 1
 
every ranking but the one that counts has been posted in here it seems

#18 in AP and coaches

 
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407cane said:
every ranking but the one that counts has been posted in here it seems

#18 in AP and coaches

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AP probably counts the least because the playoff committee people don't use the AP to rank the final 4 but they do look at some of the analytics that people hate.
 
#18 is a good spot with 1/4 of the season over. The Canes are currently one of the highest ranked teams that started unranked in the preseason. Also, the Canes have had a tremendous roster changes with 40 new players coming off an 5-7 season.

The end of the season and the conference championships will determine who makes the CFB playoffs and who makes the NY6 bowls. The Canes just need to focus one week at a time, take care of business, stay healthy, and eventually get what they deserve at the end of the season. The Canes should be on track for a special season
 
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