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Comparing to how we were set up in 2024:

QB Room: Slightly BETTER overall
RB Room: Push
WR Room: Drop off but not sharp
TE Room: Improved from 24’ OVERALL
OL: Improved compared to 24’ (which is saying ALOT)

DL Room: Improved from 24’
LB Room: Improved from 24’
CB Room: IMPROVED from 24’
S Room: Improved from 24’

K/P: Worse from 24’
KR/PR: Improved from 24’
 
StevoBevo said:
In spirit of week 1 of fall camp being over and the coaches Poll coming out and AP polls coming outi believe tomorrow (correct me if im wrong) I thought I’d do my own top 25 players so far in fall camp.

- This is based on all info during last years performance + Spring/fall camp reports thus far

* Rankings are top 25 best overall players
* Projected impact also factored
* Rankings will be updated every few days based on new reports
*Until reported otherwise I will assume all players at full health (by the start of the season)

1. RT - Francis Mauigoa
2. QB - Carson Beck
3. DE - Reuben Bain
4. LT - Markell Bell
5. LB - Mohamed Troure
6. DE - Ahkeem Messidor
7. RG - Anez Cooper
8. DT - David Blay
9. CB - Xavier Lucas
10. S - Zachariah Poyser
11. TE - Elijah Lofton
12. WR - CJ Daniels
13. LB - Wesley Bissainthee
14. CB - OJ Frédérique
14. C - Tommy Brockermyer
15. DT - Justin Scott
16. WR - Malachi Toney
17. RB - Mark Fletcher
18. TE - Alex Bauman
19. LG - Matthew McCoy
20. WR - Jojo Trader
21. NCB - Keionte Scott
22. RB - CharMar Brown
23. CB - Ethan O’Connor
24. DE - Armando Blount
25. DE - Hayden Lowe

Honorable mentions (there is a lot of talent on this team): KR - Keelan Marion, S - Jakoby Thomas, S/CB - Damari Brown, LB - Kellen Wiley, LB/S - Cam Pruitt, LB - Popo Aguirre, WR - Josh Moore

I could easily argue for anyone in the top 10 being drafted. A lot of guys with NFL futures on this team in my opinion
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Nice list but Ahmad Moten deserves to at least be on your Honorable Mentions and Jordan Lyle should be in your top 25.
 
StevoBevo said:
Crazy that I didn’t even think of Moten and I think very highly of him and expect good things from him this year.

I’m excited at how Blount is sounding inside. That could give us a DL rotation of:

DE: Reuben Bain | Hayden Lowe
DT: David Blay | Ahmad Moten
DT: Justin Scott | Armando Blount
DE: Ahkeem Messidor | Marquis Lightfoot

That’s a TALENTED DL
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Is Blount moving inside? I thought he was staying at DE. I know that he will move inside in certain packages/situations.
 
Updated for game week*

I been thinking about who i think the top 25 players on NDs team would be but I wouldn’t have a clue so (for experimental reasons) if a ND fan sees this and wants to spit out their top players from fall camp then go ahead.

I’m intrigued at how our BEST compared to their BEST and I am talking specific players/matchup

1. QB - Carson Beck
2. RT - Francis Mauigoa
3. DE - Reuben Bain
4. RG - Anez Cooper
5. LT - Markel Bell
6. LB - Mohamed Troure
7. DE - Ahkeem Messidor
8. RB - Jordan Lyle
9. CB - OJ Frederique
10. S - Zachariah Poyser
11. CB - Xavier Lucas
12. C - Tommy BrockerMeyer
13. NCB - Keonte Scott
14. RB - Mark Fletcher
15. WR - Malachi Toney
16. WR - Jojo Trader
17. TE/HB - Elijah Lofton
18. DT - Justin Scott
19. WR - CJ Daniels
20. CB - Ethan O’Connor
21. LG - Matthew McCoy
22. DL - Armando Blount
23. RB - CharMar Brown
24. LB - Wesley Bissainthe
25. DT - David Blay

Honorable Mentions: CB - Charles Brantley, TE Alex Bauman, OL - Samson Okunola, WR/KR - Keelan Marion, DE Marquis Lightfoot, LB - Kellen Wiley, S - Bryce Fitzgerald, S - Dylan Day, S Jakobe Thomas, DT Donta Simpson

Final impression:

This is an IMPRESSIVE list in my opinion, we have a very talented team, and odds are we will have the better QB in every game we play..…we are a physically impressive team. This is the best list of players Miami’s has had in 20 years

The Matchup im most excited to see is Xavier Lucas/OJ Frederique/Ethan O’Connor Vs Malachi Fields & Stackhouse, I might even include Love in there (ND will try it), if we shut them down I believe BAIN, one of our best players, will have his against ND. If we can pin our ears back and rush I feel excellent about our odds and I already feel pretty good about them
 
StevoBevo said:
Updated for game week*

I been thinking about who i think the top 25 players on NDs team would be but I wouldn’t have a clue so (for experimental reasons) if a ND fan sees this and wants to spit out their top players from fall camp then go ahead.

I’m intrigued at how our BEST compared to their BEST and I am talking specific players/matchup

1. QB - Carson Beck
2. RT - Francis Mauigoa
3. DE - Reuben Bain
4. RG - Anez Cooper
5. LT - Markel Bell
6. LB - Mohamed Troure
7. DE - Ahkeem Messidor
8. RB - Jordan Lyle
9. CB - OJ Frederique
10. S - Zachariah Poyser
11. CB - Xavier Lucas
12. C - Tommy BrockerMeyer
13. NCB - Keonte Scott
14. RB - Mark Fletcher
15. WR - Malachi Toney
16. WR - Jojo Trader
17. TE/HB - Elijah Lofton
18. DT - Justin Scott
19. WR - CJ Daniels
20. CB - Ethan O’Connor
21. LG - Matthew McCoy
22. DL - Armando Blount
23. RB - CharMar Brown
24. LB - Wesley Bissainthe
25. DT - David Blay

Honorable Mentions: CB - Charles Brantley, TE Alex Bauman, OL - Samson Okunola, WR/KR - Keelan Marion, DE Marquis Lightfoot, LB - Kellen Wiley, S - Bryce Fitzgerald, S - Dylan Day, S Jakobe Thomas, DT Donta Simpson

Final impression:

This is an IMPRESSIVE list in my opinion, we have a very talented team, and odds are we will have the better QB in every game we play..…we are a physically impressive team. This is the best list of players Miami’s has had in 20 years

The Matchup im most excited to see is Xavier Lucas/OJ Frederique/Ethan O’Connor Vs Malachi Fields & Stackhouse, I might even include Love in there (ND will try it), if we shut them down I believe BAIN, one of our best players, will have his against ND. If we can pin our ears back and rush I feel excellent about our odds and I already feel pretty good about them
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I believe you have Cooper and Scott too high and Frederique and Blay too low
 
Updated after week 3 because why TF not.

1. QB - Carson Beck
2. DE - Reuben Bain
3. RG - Anez Cooper
4. RT - Francis Mauigoa
5. DE - Ahkeem Messidor
6. CB - OJ Frédérique
7. LB - Mohamed Troure
8. NCB - Keonte Scott
9. WR - Malachi Toney
10. WR - CJ Daniels
11. RB - Mark Fletcher
12. C - Tommy BrockerMeyer
13. CB - Xavier Lucas
14. S - Zachariah Poyser
15. DT - David Blay
16. LB - Wesley Bissainthe
17. RB - Charmar Brown
18. S - Jakoby Thomas
19. DT - Justin Scott
20. LT - Markel Bell
21. WR - Joshua Moore
21. CB - Damari Brown
22. DT - Ahmad Moten
23. S - Bryce Fitzgerald
24. LG - Samson Okunola
25. WR - Keelan Marion

HM: DT - Armondo Blount, CB - Ethan OConnor, WR - Jojo Trader, TE - Brock Schott, TE - Alex Bauman, TE - Elijah Lofton, LG - Matthew McCoy, TE - Luka Gilbert, RB - Jordan Lyle, LB - Chase Smith/Popo Aguirre

***Lofton, Trader, Lyle & Lowe were all automatically excluded from the top 25 due to injury/lack of reps

These rankings are now predicated based on REAL game results

That’s a **** good list, this is depth I haven’t seen in my lifetime. Until now.

Side note: I honestly believe that the maturity this team has on TOP of finishing last year with an absolute THUD. Is exactly what will propel this team farther this season.
 
StevoBevo said:
Updated after week 3 because why TF not.

1. QB - Carson Beck
2. DE - Reuben Bain
3. RG - Anez Cooper
4. RT - Francis Mauigoa
5. DE - Ahkeem Messidor
6. CB - OJ Frédérique
7. LB - Mohamed Troure
8. NCB - Keonte Scott
9. WR - Malachi Toney
10. WR - CJ Daniels
11. RB - Mark Fletcher
12. C - Tommy BrockerMeyer
13. CB - Xavier Lucas
14. S - Zachariah Poyser
15. DT - David Blay
16. LB - Wesley Bissainthe
17. RB - Charmar Brown
18. S - Jakoby Thomas
19. DT - Justin Scott
20. LT - Markel Bell
21. WR - Joshua Moore
21. CB - Damari Brown
22. DT - Ahmad Moten
23. S - Bryce Fitzgerald
24. LG - Samson Okunola
25. WR - Keelan Marion

HM: DT - Armondo Blount, CB - Ethan OConnor, WR - Jojo Trader, TE - Brock Schott, TE - Alex Bauman, TE - Elijah Lofton, LG - Matthew McCoy, TE - Luka Gilbert, RB - Jordan Lyle, LB - Chase Smith/Popo Aguirre

***Lofton, Trader, Lyle & Lowe were all automatically excluded from the top 25 due to injury/lack of reps

These rankings are now predicated based on REAL game results

That’s a **** good list, this is depth I haven’t seen in my lifetime. Until now.

Side note: I honestly believe that the maturity this team has on TOP of finishing last year with an absolute THUD. Is exactly what will propel this team farther this season.
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This list has alot of players with pro potential, great to see the evolution
 
Heisman and Maxwell: Beck
Lombard and Bednarik: Bain
Outland: Mauignoa
Guy: Joyce
Groza: Carter Davis
Bear Bryant: Mario
Broyles: Hetherman

We start taking again the end of the year awards this year.

Prove me wrong.
 
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StevoBevo said:
Updated after week 3 because why TF not.

1. QB - Carson Beck
2. DE - Reuben Bain
3. RG - Anez Cooper
4. RT - Francis Mauigoa
5. DE - Ahkeem Messidor
6. CB - OJ Frédérique
7. LB - Mohamed Troure
8. NCB - Keonte Scott
9. WR - Malachi Toney
10. WR - CJ Daniels
11. RB - Mark Fletcher
12. C - Tommy BrockerMeyer
13. CB - Xavier Lucas
14. S - Zachariah Poyser
15. DT - David Blay
16. LB - Wesley Bissainthe
17. RB - Charmar Brown
18. S - Jakoby Thomas
19. DT - Justin Scott
20. LT - Markel Bell
21. WR - Joshua Moore
21. CB - Damari Brown
22. DT - Ahmad Moten
23. S - Bryce Fitzgerald
24. LG - Samson Okunola
25. WR - Keelan Marion

HM: DT - Armondo Blount, CB - Ethan OConnor, WR - Jojo Trader, TE - Brock Schott, TE - Alex Bauman, TE - Elijah Lofton, LG - Matthew McCoy, TE - Luka Gilbert, RB - Jordan Lyle, LB - Chase Smith/Popo Aguirre

***Lofton, Trader, Lyle & Lowe were all automatically excluded from the top 25 due to injury/lack of reps

These rankings are now predicated based on REAL game results

That’s a **** good list, this is depth I haven’t seen in my lifetime. Until now.

Side note: I honestly believe that the maturity this team has on TOP of finishing last year with an absolute THUD. Is exactly what will propel this team farther this season.
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I’ll play along
1. Bain
2. Beck
3. Francis
4. Mesidor
5. Cooper
6. Daniels
7. Fletcher
8. Toney
9. OJ
10. K Scott
11. Blay
12. Lucas
13. Toure
14. Beockermeyer
15. Bell
16. Poyser
17. Samson
18. Moten
19. Wes
20. J Scott
21. Marion
22. Blount
23. Popo
24. Moore
25. Fitzgerald
 
Now that the regular season has concluded let’s see how everything fared.

*COMPARISON of 2024 to 2025*
QB Room:
- Fall Camp prediction: Slightly BETTER overall
- End of season result: Slightly worse overall

RB Room:
- Fall Camp prediction: Push
- End of season result: slightly worse overall

WR Room:
- Fall Camp prediction: Drop off but not sharp
- End of season result: PUSH, Toney is elite, Daniels/Marion/JMoore/Upshaw/Tony Johnson have done great replacing George/Brown/Horton. Definitely exceeded my expectations

TE Room:
- Fall Camp prediction: Improved from 24’ OVERALL
- End of season result: Push but more versatility, Bauman is what he is but Lofton has gotten more and more involved as he has gotten healthier. Schott getting hurt sucks because I had my eye on him
OL:
- Fall camp prediction: IMPROVED compared to 24
- End of season result: slight improvement pass pro, slight regression in run block (overall a push, still elite)

DL Room: Improved from 24’
LB Room: Improved from 24’
CB Room: IMPROVED from 24’
S Room: Improved from 24’

- End of season result: EVERY aspect on defense improved immensely, this is an elite unit.


K/P:
- Fall Camp prediction: Worse from 24’
- End of season result: PUSH
Davis has been great for us, how he does against an A&M crowd is another story though.

KR/PR:
- Fall camp prediction: Improved from 24’
- End of season result: KR about the same, PR definitely improved with Toney back there.
 
Top 25 in for Fall camp:
1. QB - Carson Beck
2. DE - Reuben Bain
3. RG - Anez Cooper
4. RT - Francis Mauigoa
5. DE - Ahkeem Messidor
6. CB - OJ Frédérique
7. LB - Mohamed Troure
8. NCB - Keonte Scott
9. WR - Malachi Toney
10. WR - CJ Daniels
11. RB - Mark Fletcher
12. C - Tommy BrockerMeyer
13. CB - Xavier Lucas
14. S - Zachariah Poyser
15. DT - David Blay
16. LB - Wesley Bissainthe
17. RB - Charmar Brown
18. S - Jakoby Thomas
19. DT - Justin Scott
20. LT - Markel Bell
21. WR - Joshua Moore
21. CB - Damari Brown
22. DT - Ahmad Moten
23. S - Bryce Fitzgerald
24. LG - Samson Okunola
25. WR - Keelan Marion

HM: DT - Armondo Blount, CB - Ethan OConnor, WR - Jojo Trader, TE - Brock Schott, TE - Alex Bauman, TE - Elijah Lofton, LG - Matthew McCoy, TE - Luka Gilbert, RB - Jordan Lyle, LB - Chase Smith/Popo Aguirre

END OF SEASON TOP 25:

1. OT - Francis Mauigoa
2. DE - Reuben Bain
3. WR - Malachi Toney
4. QB - Carson Beck
5. DE - Ahkeem Messidor
6. DB - Keonte Scott
7. S - Jakoby Thomas
8. LT - Markell Bell
9. RG - Anez Cooper
10. DT - David Blay
11. CB - Xavier Lucas
12. WR - CJ Daniels
13. C - James Brockermyer
14. S - Zachariah Poyser
15. DT - Ahmad Moten
16. LG - Samson Okunola
17. RB - Mark Fletcher/Girard Pringle
18. LB - Mo Troure
19. DT - Justin Scott
20. WR - Keelan Marion
21. DL - Armondo Blount
22. S - Bryce Fitzgerald
23. CB - Ethan O’Connor
24. CB - Damari Brown
25. CB - OJ Frédérique

HM: - LB Wesley Bissainthee - DE Marquis Lightfoot - LB Chase Smith - LG Matthew McCoy - WR Josh Moore - LB Popo Aguirre - RB CharMar Brown - WR Daylyn Upshaw - DL Donta Simpson

*Carter Davis was excluded intentionally, he has been great for us and I would PUT him as one of our most important additions this off season. But I didn’t feel like comparing a Kicker to the rest of the field.

*Brock Schott/Hayden Lowe/Tony Johnson were excluded too due injury.*

Side note: we are set to bring back 13/14 of the top 25 listed (pending draft decisions) as well as 7 of the 9 listed honorable mentions (pending portal losses)
 
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StevoBevo said:
Now that the regular season has concluded let’s see how everything fared.

*COMPARISON of 2024 to 2025*
QB Room:
- Fall Camp prediction: Slightly BETTER overall
- End of season result: Slightly worse overall

RB Room:
- Fall Camp prediction: Push
- End of season result: slightly worse overall

WR Room:
- Fall Camp prediction: Drop off but not sharp
- End of season result: PUSH, Toney is elite, Daniels/Marion/JMoore/Upshaw/Tony Johnson have done great replacing George/Brown/Horton. Definitely exceeded my expectations

TE Room:
- Fall Camp prediction: Improved from 24’ OVERALL
- End of season result: Push but more versatility, Bauman is what he is but Lofton has gotten more and more involved as he has gotten healthier. Schott getting hurt sucks because I had my eye on him
OL:
- Fall camp prediction: IMPROVED compared to 24
- End of season result: slight improvement pass pro, slight regression in run block (overall a push, still elite)

DL Room: Improved from 24’
LB Room: Improved from 24’
CB Room: IMPROVED from 24’
S Room: Improved from 24’

- End of season result: EVERY aspect on defense improved immensely, this is an elite unit.


K/P:
- Fall Camp prediction: Worse from 24’
- End of season result: PUSH
Davis has been great for us, how he does against an A&M crowd is another story though.

KR/PR:
- Fall camp prediction: Improved from 24’
- End of season result: KR about the same, PR definitely improved with Toney back there.
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This is a poor analysis. I'm not sure if you understand what slighty means.
 
cway313 said:
This is a poor analysis. I'm not sure if you understand what slighty means.
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I used the term “slight” in regards to QB/RB & OL play.

- QB: we are improved in the short-intermediate pass game compared to last year and we are worse in the deep/explosive plays. That give and take equated to only a slight drop off in the passing game. Would you argue the disparity from 2024 to 2025 is wider when taking into consideration all tangibles ?

- RB: Fletcher is improved from last year, amazing in Pass Pro too, Pringle/Brown give us quality depth and versatility and when you compare it to the OVERALL room from 2024 and 2025 the 2025 room isn’t far behind, Martinez is what gives 2024 the edge but overall body of work closes that gap when you look at the rooms as a whole.

- OL: We were elite in pass protection last year and I feel we took a step forward, not a major step because we were ALREADY elite, so there isn’t much room to go up.
This year our Run Blocking has been fine, but it’s worse overall compared to last year I would argue scheme has more to do with it then the 5 we have on the line. Although I’d argue that Carpenter was better than Brockermyer has been. I MIGHT upgrade run blocking to “reasonable drop off”
 
StevoBevo said:
I used the term “slight” in regards to QB/RB & OL play.

- QB: we are improved in the short-intermediate pass game compared to last year and we are worse in the deep/explosive plays. That give and take equated to only a slight drop off in the passing game. Would you argue the disparity from 2024 to 2025 is wider when taking into consideration all tangibles ?

- RB: Fletcher is improved from last year, amazing in Pass Pro too, Pringle/Brown give us quality depth and versatility and when you compare it to the OVERALL room from 2024 and 2025 the 2025 room isn’t far behind, Martinez is what gives 2024 the edge but overall body of work closes that gap when you look at the rooms as a whole.

- OL: We were elite in pass protection last year and I feel we took a step forward, not a major step because we were ALREADY elite, so there isn’t much room to go up.
This year our Run Blocking has been fine, but it’s worse overall compared to last year I would argue scheme has more to do with it then the 5 we have on the line. Although I’d argue that Carpenter was better than Brockermyer has been. I MIGHT upgrade run blocking to “reasonable drop off”
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My man...no one cares about how logical or factual your analysis is. If I don't agree with every single word of it, it's trash. I don't make the rules.
 
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StevoBevo said:
I used the term “slight” in regards to QB/RB & OL play.

- QB: we are improved in the short-intermediate pass game compared to last year and we are worse in the deep/explosive plays. That give and take equated to only a slight drop off in the passing game. Would you argue the disparity from 2024 to 2025 is wider when taking into consideration all tangibles ?

- RB: Fletcher is improved from last year, amazing in Pass Pro too, Pringle/Brown give us quality depth and versatility and when you compare it to the OVERALL room from 2024 and 2025 the 2025 room isn’t far behind, Martinez is what gives 2024 the edge but overall body of work closes that gap when you look at the rooms as a whole.

- OL: We were elite in pass protection last year and I feel we took a step forward, not a major step because we were ALREADY elite, so there isn’t much room to go up.
This year our Run Blocking has been fine, but it’s worse overall compared to last year I would argue scheme has more to do with it then the 5 we have on the line. Although I’d argue that Carpenter was better than Brockermyer has been. I MIGHT upgrade run blocking to “reasonable drop off”
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Happy Holidays!
 
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