Tom Hermon

[MIATL]

On the Malzahn topic. He didn't wait to long and get stuck with Arkansas State. He passed on the UNC job in November of 2011, and accepted Arkansas State in November. He passed on Vanderbilt when they hired Franklin.

I don't remember him passing on UNC at all. He was up for a lot of jobs, then his wife was in that crazy-*** video, then he ended up at Arkansas St.

Gus Malzahn: Auburn's Offensive Coordinator Would Be Dumb to Take UNC Job | Bleacher Report

Gus Malzahn Interviews For North Carolina Job, According To Report - SBNation.com

Gus Malzahn reportedly front-runner for Tar Heels job | CollegeFootballTalk

NOTE: Assuming the names mentioned are accurate, UNC landed the worst candidate possible.

Arkansas State Red Wolves introduce Gus Malzahn of Auburn Tigers

Malzahn had been linked to several top college head coaching positions in the past two seasons, including Vanderbilt and Maryland after last season and North Carolina and Kansas this year. That he eventually chose to return to his home state, and a school that rests solidly in the shadow of its in-state neighbor Arkansas, led to plenty of questions.

However, this isn't the first time Malzahn has taken an unlikely career path. He left Arkansas as its offensive coordinator after the 2006 season for the same position at Tulsa. With the opportunity to run his Hurry Up, No Huddle offense, Malzahn helped the Golden Hurricane field one of the top offenses in college football for two seasons.

He's counting on the same results at Arkansas State and said he has no regrets about his path to his first college head coaching job.

"The last two years, I've kind of got the bug to be a head coach," Malzahn said. "I think you have to investigate each opportunity, but you've got to wait until you feel right and this did."

 

[Gatorhater]

UT asked Briles to submit his resume and other supporting information for the UT job. Briles told them they have his resume (football record, everything on tv, etc.), so he didn't submit anything to them. He didn't want it to appear that he was looking to move to UT, because he wasn't. Now he may have taken it if offered, but UT never offered because he wouldn't submit his resume. Briles is very smart. And a very good coach. I've said this before, he isn't leaving the state of Texas for a job. Not ever. He was out of state recently for a bowl game. It was the longest he'd spent outside of Texas since his honeymoon.

I never understood why a resume was necessary for such a hire. Look at the coach's tenure.

I thought that only at Miami would we request a resume, see Coach L (since our admin were too Potato to know of him).

I think the gators asked Steve to submit one when he wanted to come back after the Redskins. He said FU and took USCe job.

 

[Gatorhater]

Herman has a huge 2.25 mil buyout with Houston if he leaves before 2018.

Hard to absorb this, and pay Golden's buyout.

But if you can get around paying Golden (unlikely), it may be doable.

If you have to pay Golden ... UM would need to get creative with offsetting Herman's salary to cover his buyout. I think that's what Boise State did to cover Bryan Harsin's salary ... And I believe UF is doing that with McElwain. But that only works if the guy really wants the job.

I know we all love Miami ... But objectively, we would not have had Randy Shannon and Al Golden as our last 2 head coaches if this job was that highly thought of by those in the college football coaching profession.

I think that is absolutely true. I believe our fans think this job is moire attractive than quality candidates do.

I think you guys have little man's complex about UM. Look at UF's recent hires. Zook, Meyer, Muscrap and McElwang. None was some monster when hired. Doesn't matter who you are or how much dough you have you're going to have a tough time luring away a current NFL HC or a college HC who is already established at a good program. Even Briles turned down Texas money this last time around.

Herman is not a huge commodity yet. You can get him from Houston just like Baylor got Briles and Texas AM got Sumlin from Houston. You can't get either of those guys now because they're established at good programs that treat them like Gods. But you could have gotten them while they were at Houston.

UM just needs to pick the right dude and act quickly before someone else snaps them up and they get established at a Power 5 team where they feel they can win it all.

Urban was big hire. He was high demand and left ND at the altar to get on gator jet.(By the way, ND will probably be his new job after next "health issue" comes up at OSU went things get a little rocky there. I agree about the others.

 

[CanesAreAble]

On the Malzahn topic. He didn't wait to long and get stuck with Arkansas State. He passed on the UNC job in November of 2011, and accepted Arkansas State in November. He passed on Vanderbilt when they hired Franklin.

I don't remember him passing on UNC at all. He was up for a lot of jobs, then his wife was in that crazy-*** video, then he ended up at Arkansas St.

Gus Malzahn: Auburn's Offensive Coordinator Would Be Dumb to Take UNC Job | Bleacher Report

Gus Malzahn Interviews For North Carolina Job, According To Report - SBNation.com

Gus Malzahn reportedly front-runner for Tar Heels job | CollegeFootballTalk

NOTE: Assuming the names mentioned are accurate, UNC landed the worst candidate possible.

Arkansas State Red Wolves introduce Gus Malzahn of Auburn Tigers

Malzahn had been linked to several top college head coaching positions in the past two seasons, including Vanderbilt and Maryland after last season and North Carolina and Kansas this year. That he eventually chose to return to his home state, and a school that rests solidly in the shadow of its in-state neighbor Arkansas, led to plenty of questions.

However, this isn't the first time Malzahn has taken an unlikely career path. He left Arkansas as its offensive coordinator after the 2006 season for the same position at Tulsa. With the opportunity to run his Hurry Up, No Huddle offense, Malzahn helped the Golden Hurricane field one of the top offenses in college football for two seasons.

He's counting on the same results at Arkansas State and said he has no regrets about his path to his first college head coaching job.

"The last two years, I've kind of got the bug to be a head coach," Malzahn said. "I think you have to investigate each opportunity, but you've got to wait until you feel right and this did."

So wait, are you arguing he went to Arkansas St over UNC because he's from the state of Arkansas?

I don't see anywhere that he turned down the UNC job. They might've cooled on him (as some schools reportedly did after his wife's crazytown interview), or he might've avoided it because of the impending sanctions (they got hit with a bowl ban in 2012).


You mentioned Tom Herman wanted to build something at Houston. Well Malzahn said he planned to have Arkansas St in the top 25 mix every year.

Then he left after one season.

Those Group of 5 jobs are stepping-stone jobs.

 

[MIATL]

No.

I'm arguing coaches don't always make moves for the sole benefit of increasing their salaries, or to move to a Power 5 conference. I'm arguing that there are other very large considerations for them. One of which, is living in an area where they want to live.

And I'm arguing that people thinking most/all/many coaches will jump to Miami because we pay them more than they are making, or because of our history, are deluding themselves.

I'm citing Malzahn as an example. Chris Petersen and Gary Patterson are also guys who could have landed at Power 5 schools when they were toiling away in Group of 5 jobs, but declined those opportunities because of considerations outside of money.

And that's fine if you believe UNC, Vandy, Kansas, and Maryland all "cooled" on Malzahn because of his wife. But you can't deny Malzahn agreed to coach at Arkansas State for half the money he was making at Auburn. Clearly, he didn't make that move for financial reasons. And that's my point ... It's not just about money.

It's about "fit" ... And none of us knows any of these prospective candidates to know if they "fit" in South Florida.

Slight correction:

I didn't mention Herman wants to build anything at Houston. I commented that their program has expressed an interest in competing at the highest level, and are committing resources like they never have in their history. That the program sees themselves as being more than they are, and hired Herman to get them there.

And based on location, and the recent success of Baylor and TCU, Herman may feel like he can turn Houston into what Miami used to be. He could be their Howard ... And maybe that appeals to him? Especially if the interest from other schools after this season convinces Houston to commit even more resources to Herman and his staff ..

All of that noted ... I've never said Herman wouldn't leave Houston, or wouldn't come to Miami.

But I am saying it's not this "no brainer" some of yall want to make it. He and his family would have to want to live in South Florida ... And South Florida ain't for everybody.

Oh ... I've also said Miami may not be willing to pay Herman's buyout, AND eat Golden's buyout. Especially if they see Fuente and/or Morris as Herman's equal, and their buyouts are much lower.

On the Malzahn topic. He didn't wait to long and get stuck with Arkansas State. He passed on the UNC job in November of 2011, and accepted Arkansas State in November. He passed on Vanderbilt when they hired Franklin.

I don't remember him passing on UNC at all. He was up for a lot of jobs, then his wife was in that crazy-*** video, then he ended up at Arkansas St.

Gus Malzahn: Auburn's Offensive Coordinator Would Be Dumb to Take UNC Job | Bleacher Report

Gus Malzahn Interviews For North Carolina Job, According To Report - SBNation.com

Gus Malzahn reportedly front-runner for Tar Heels job | CollegeFootballTalk

NOTE: Assuming the names mentioned are accurate, UNC landed the worst candidate possible.

Arkansas State Red Wolves introduce Gus Malzahn of Auburn Tigers

Malzahn had been linked to several top college head coaching positions in the past two seasons, including Vanderbilt and Maryland after last season and North Carolina and Kansas this year. That he eventually chose to return to his home state, and a school that rests solidly in the shadow of its in-state neighbor Arkansas, led to plenty of questions.

However, this isn't the first time Malzahn has taken an unlikely career path. He left Arkansas as its offensive coordinator after the 2006 season for the same position at Tulsa. With the opportunity to run his Hurry Up, No Huddle offense, Malzahn helped the Golden Hurricane field one of the top offenses in college football for two seasons.

He's counting on the same results at Arkansas State and said he has no regrets about his path to his first college head coaching job.

"The last two years, I've kind of got the bug to be a head coach," Malzahn said. "I think you have to investigate each opportunity, but you've got to wait until you feel right and this did."

So wait, are you arguing he went to Arkansas St over UNC because he's from the state of Arkansas?

I don't see anywhere that he turned down the UNC job. They might've cooled on him (as some schools reportedly did after his wife's crazytown interview), or he might've avoided it because of the impending sanctions (they got hit with a bowl ban in 2012).


You mentioned Tom Herman wanted to build something at Houston. Well Malzahn said he planned to have Arkansas St in the top 25 mix every year.

Then he left after one season.

Those Group of 5 jobs are stepping-stone jobs.

 

[Klamalama]

Blah, blah, blah, Tom, ****, Harry. Butch Davis is the answer.

 

[CanesAreAble]

No.

I'm arguing coaches don't always make moves for the sole benefit of increasing their salaries, or to move to a Power 5 conference. I'm arguing that there are other very large considerations for them. One of which, is living in an area where they want to live.

And I'm arguing that people thinking most/all/many coaches will jump to Miami because we pay them more than they are making, or because of our history, are deluding themselves.

I'm citing Malzahn as an example. Chris Petersen and Gary Patterson are also guys who could have landed at Power 5 schools when they were toiling away in Group of 5 jobs, but declined those opportunities because of considerations outside of money.

And that's fine if you believe UNC, Vandy, Kansas, and Maryland all "cooled" on Malzahn because of his wife. But you can't deny Malzahn agreed to coach at Arkansas State for half the money he was making at Auburn. Clearly, he didn't make that move for financial reasons. And that's my point ... It's not just about money.

It's about "fit" ... And none of us knows any of these prospective candidates to know if they "fit" in South Florida.

Slight correction:

I didn't mention Herman wants to build anything at Houston. I commented that their program has expressed an interest in competing at the highest level, and are committing resources like they never have in their history. That the program sees themselves as being more than they are, and hired Herman to get them there.

And based on location, and the recent success of Baylor and TCU, Herman may feel like he can turn Houston into what Miami used to be. He could be their Howard ... And maybe that appeals to him? Especially if the interest from other schools after this season convinces Houston to commit even more resources to Herman and his staff ..

All of that noted ... I've never said Herman wouldn't leave Houston, or wouldn't come to Miami.

But I am saying it's not this "no brainer" some of yall want to make it. He and his family would have to want to live in South Florida ... And South Florida ain't for everybody.

Oh ... I've also said Miami may not be willing to pay Herman's buyout, AND eat Golden's buyout. Especially if they see Fuente and/or Morris as Herman's equal, and their buyouts are much lower.

Malzahn went to Arkansas St because he had a chance to be a head coach (at a program that wasn't a train wreck), i.e. a better opportunity.

That's what Miami is: a better opportunity. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but outside of Jon Gruden, who has actually turned down the Miami job the past three cycles?

The players campaigned for Coker. After an "exhaustive" search, we promoted Shannon even though other coaches wanted the job (Mike Leach, Gary Patterson, etc...). At the very least Gruden was strongly considering taking the job (high-level boosters thought it was a done deal). Before we settled on Golden, several coaches wanted the job, including SEC coach Dan Mullen who secretly interviewed.

I'm not unreasonable to think we can get ANY coach we want, but until I actually see us whiff on a coach at a school like SMU or Houston or whatever, I'm going to assume an ambitious coach at a smaller school will recognize that Miami lies in arguably the most fertile recruiting area in the country.

As for money, we have it. The only question is will we spend it? After a decade-long swoon and fan toxicity at its all-time worst, I'm hopeful the admin will pony up and do whatever needs to be done to get the right guy.

 

[supacane]

Herman has a huge 2.25 mil buyout with Houston if he leaves before 2018.

Hard to absorb this, and pay Golden's buyout.

But if you can get around paying Golden (unlikely), it may be doable.

If you have to pay Golden ... UM would need to get creative with offsetting Herman's salary to cover his buyout. I think that's what Boise State did to cover Bryan Harsin's salary ... And I believe UF is doing that with McElwain. But that only works if the guy really wants the job.

I know we all love Miami ... But objectively, we would not have had Randy Shannon and Al Golden as our last 2 head coaches if this job was that highly thought of by those in the college football coaching profession.

I think that is absolutely true. I believe our fans think this job is moire attractive than quality candidates do.

We are in this crap because we do dumb stuff. who gives a rats are about attractive. Butch Davis. Freaking simple.

 

[User-4525]

2.25M is not a huge buyout by market standards. Coach Mac had a 7.3m buyout iirc

 

[canesbaby]

2.25M is not a huge buyout by market standards. Coach Mac had a 7.3m buyout iirc

I agree with you 100%, especially these days. But, it's not up to us unfortunately.

 

[MIATL]

Dan Mullen interviewed for Miami the same way he interviewed at Mississippi State. He told the admin that what they were doing wasn't working, and needed to be changed. They took him as arrogant, and didn't like him. So, they never offered the job.

Well, unless they agreed to make the changes he was asking for, he wasn't taking the job. But that doesn't really matter ...

... My point is not that Miami is an unattractive job. My point is, Miami is not an "automatic take" for every coach. Coaches will have conditions, and it's more than just "pay me more money" ... Especially for coaches who are already at programs that are currently viewed as better programs than Miami.

I'm not saying Herman wouldn't take the job ...

I'm not saying Houston is better program ...

But if Herman get Houston to the Group of 5 New Year's Day Bowl, he may feel like he can accomplish what he wants to accomplish by staying at Houston.

Greg Schiano got an NFL gig by making Rutgers relevant. Chip Kelly got an NFL gig by making Oregon relevant. Mike Riley got an NFL gig by making Oregon State relevant. Bobby Petrino got an NFL gig by making Louisville relevant.

If Herman's goal is to get to the NFL, he can get there from Houston.

If Herman's goal is to build a winning program, he can do that at Houston.

... And for clarity sake ... Greg Schiano was the top choice to replace Coker. Schiano turned the job down to stay at Rutgers ... And when he did that, it wasn't about money!

He thought he could make Rutgers good enough to compete with Miami.

And just in case you don't remember ...

Schiano tells Miami he's not leaving Rutgers

No.

I'm arguing coaches don't always make moves for the sole benefit of increasing their salaries, or to move to a Power 5 conference. I'm arguing that there are other very large considerations for them. One of which, is living in an area where they want to live.

And I'm arguing that people thinking most/all/many coaches will jump to Miami because we pay them more than they are making, or because of our history, are deluding themselves.

I'm citing Malzahn as an example. Chris Petersen and Gary Patterson are also guys who could have landed at Power 5 schools when they were toiling away in Group of 5 jobs, but declined those opportunities because of considerations outside of money.

And that's fine if you believe UNC, Vandy, Kansas, and Maryland all "cooled" on Malzahn because of his wife. But you can't deny Malzahn agreed to coach at Arkansas State for half the money he was making at Auburn. Clearly, he didn't make that move for financial reasons. And that's my point ... It's not just about money.

It's about "fit" ... And none of us knows any of these prospective candidates to know if they "fit" in South Florida.

Slight correction:

I didn't mention Herman wants to build anything at Houston. I commented that their program has expressed an interest in competing at the highest level, and are committing resources like they never have in their history. That the program sees themselves as being more than they are, and hired Herman to get them there.

And based on location, and the recent success of Baylor and TCU, Herman may feel like he can turn Houston into what Miami used to be. He could be their Howard ... And maybe that appeals to him? Especially if the interest from other schools after this season convinces Houston to commit even more resources to Herman and his staff ..

All of that noted ... I've never said Herman wouldn't leave Houston, or wouldn't come to Miami.

But I am saying it's not this "no brainer" some of yall want to make it. He and his family would have to want to live in South Florida ... And South Florida ain't for everybody.

Oh ... I've also said Miami may not be willing to pay Herman's buyout, AND eat Golden's buyout. Especially if they see Fuente and/or Morris as Herman's equal, and their buyouts are much lower.

Malzahn went to Arkansas St because he had a chance to be a head coach (at a program that wasn't a train wreck), i.e. a better opportunity.

That's what Miami is: a better opportunity. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but outside of Jon Gruden, who has actually turned down the Miami job the past three cycles?

The players campaigned for Coker. After an "exhaustive" search, we promoted Shannon even though other coaches wanted the job (Mike Leach, Gary Patterson, etc...). At the very least Gruden was strongly considering taking the job (high-level boosters thought it was a done deal). Before we settled on Golden, several coaches wanted the job, including SEC coach Dan Mullen who secretly interviewed.

I'm not unreasonable to think we can get ANY coach we want, but until I actually see us whiff on a coach at a school like SMU or Houston or whatever, I'm going to assume an ambitious coach at a smaller school will recognize that Miami lies in arguably the most fertile recruiting area in the country.

As for money, we have it. The only question is will we spend it? After a decade-long swoon and fan toxicity at its all-time worst, I'm hopeful the admin will pony up and do whatever needs to be done to get the right guy.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Dan Mullen interviewed for Miami the same way he interviewed at Mississippi State. He told the admin that what they were doing wasn't working, and needed to be changed. They took him as arrogant, and didn't like him. So, they never offered the job.

Well, unless they agreed to make the changes he was asking for, he wasn't taking the job. But that doesn't really matter ...

... My point is not that Miami is an unattractive job. My point is, Miami is not an "automatic take" for every coach. Coaches will have conditions, and it's more than just "pay me more money" ... Especially for coaches who are already at programs that are currently viewed as better programs than Miami.

I'm not saying Herman wouldn't take the job ...

I'm not saying Houston is better program ...

But if Herman get Houston to the Group of 5 New Year's Day Bowl, he may feel like he can accomplish what he wants to accomplish by staying at Houston.

Greg Schiano got an NFL gig by making Rutgers relevant. Chip Kelly got an NFL gig by making Oregon relevant. Mike Riley got an NFL gig by making Oregon State relevant. Bobby Petrino got an NFL gig by making Louisville relevant.

If Herman's goal is to get to the NFL, he can get there from Houston.

If Herman's goal is to build a winning program, he can do that at Houston.

... And for clarity sake ... Greg Schiano was the top choice to replace Coker. Schiano turned the job down to stay at Rutgers ... And when he did that, it wasn't about money!

He thought he could make Rutgers good enough to compete with Miami.

And just in case you don't remember ...

Schiano tells Miami he's not leaving Rutgers

Petrino secretly interviewed for the Auburn job, and the other guys you mentioned were in BCS conferences.

And I don't remember Schiano being the frontrunner for the Miami job. I do remember speculation he was holding out for the Penn State job.

Until Tom Herman says, "Nah. I'd rather stay at Houston," I'm confident we can poach him (unless there's a bidding war with other Power 5 teams).

 

[MIATL]

I'm guessing the crowd that's "confident in landing Herman" also believe Jon Gruden was actually interested in taking the Miami job before Golden got it.

Yeah, we went from Jon Gruden being interested, to hiring Al Golden.

LOL

Never underestimate the fanaticism of a fan base ...


... Looking forward to this game:

Saturday
Nov. 14 Cougars at Houston Cougars
TDECU Stadium, Houston, TX

 

[CanesAreAble]

I'm guessing the crowd that's "confident in landing Herman" also believe Jon Gruden was actually interested in taking the Miami job before Golden got it.

Yeah, we went from Jon Gruden being interested, to hiring Al Golden.

LOL

Never underestimate the fanaticism of a fan base ...


... Looking forward to this game:

Saturday
Nov. 14 Cougars at Houston Cougars
TDECU Stadium, Houston, TX

Your argument is maybe we can get Tom Herman, but maybe we can't.

Awesome.

That isn't going to stop any discussion about whom fans would want to replace Golden.

 

[MIATL]

I'll re-state my argument ... And I won't even ask you to click on a link, since you don't seem willing to do that. lol

No.

I'm arguing coaches don't always make moves for the sole benefit of increasing their salaries, or to move to a Power 5 conference. I'm arguing that there are other very large considerations for them. One of which, is living in an area where they want to live.

Bro ... I've already stated Herman is on my list of candidates. So, that's not a debate/discussion ...

... But my posts have attempted to temper the "Of course, Herman would leave Houston for Miami" crowd. Because I think some folks don't realize how irrelevant we are. We're not a top 40 program ... And our HC has had multiple top 20 recruiting classes, and is in his 5th season. Nobody, outside of Miami fans, think we matter ... And that may include more coaches that some are willing to accept ...

But I'm definitely not trying to stop any discussion.

... It's a message board ... Why would I try to stifle discussion?

... IMO, I'm adding context.

Whether you agree or disagree with my context is what I assume we have been debating ...

I'm guessing the crowd that's "confident in landing Herman" also believe Jon Gruden was actually interested in taking the Miami job before Golden got it.

Yeah, we went from Jon Gruden being interested, to hiring Al Golden.

LOL

Never underestimate the fanaticism of a fan base ...


... Looking forward to this game:

Saturday
Nov. 14 Cougars at Houston Cougars
TDECU Stadium, Houston, TX

Your argument is maybe we can get Tom Herman, but maybe we can't.

Awesome.

That isn't going to stop any discussion about whom fans would want to replace Golden.

 

[MedleyCane]

I'm guessing the crowd that's "confident in landing Herman" also believe Jon Gruden was actually interested in taking the Miami job before Golden got it.

Yeah, we went from Jon Gruden being interested, to hiring Al Golden.

LOL

Never underestimate the fanaticism of a fan base ...


... Looking forward to this game:

Saturday
Nov. 14 Cougars at Houston Cougars
TDECU Stadium, Houston, TX

LOL.
It's true.
But I think that is endemic with all fan bases.
Look at Tennessee during their last coaching search.
Their fans were convinced they were going to get Gruden as well, and they
were also tossing around other very high-profile college and pro names.
They had to "settle" for Butch Jones, who is pretty good, but not what many
of their fans were expecting.

You do have a point on Herman.
I don't think he leaves that gig for UM, at least not the next 2-3 years when other jobs in Texas
may open up.

 

[daddacane]

Is the Miami Head Coaching job available yet?

 

[CanesAreAble]

I'll re-state my argument ... And I won't even ask you to click on a link, since you don't seem willing to do that. lol

No.

I'm arguing coaches don't always make moves for the sole benefit of increasing their salaries, or to move to a Power 5 conference. I'm arguing that there are other very large considerations for them. One of which, is living in an area where they want to live.

Bro ... I've already stated Herman is on my list of candidates. So, that's not a debate/discussion ...

... But my posts have attempted to temper the "Of course, Herman would leave Houston for Miami" crowd. Because I think some folks don't realize how irrelevant we are. We're not a top 40 program ... And our HC has had multiple top 20 recruiting classes, and is in his 5th season. Nobody, outside of Miami fans, think we matter ... And that may include more coaches that some are willing to accept ...

But I'm definitely not trying to stop any discussion.

... It's a message board ... Why would I try to stifle discussion?

... IMO, I'm adding context.

Whether you agree or disagree with my context is what I assume we have been debating ...

I'm guessing the crowd that's "confident in landing Herman" also believe Jon Gruden was actually interested in taking the Miami job before Golden got it.

Yeah, we went from Jon Gruden being interested, to hiring Al Golden.

LOL

Never underestimate the fanaticism of a fan base ...


... Looking forward to this game:

Saturday
Nov. 14 Cougars at Houston Cougars
TDECU Stadium, Houston, TX

Your argument is maybe we can get Tom Herman, but maybe we can't.

Awesome.

That isn't going to stop any discussion about whom fans would want to replace Golden.

Unwilling to click a link???


As irrelevant as we've become, a good coach can see our potential. ****, Tom Herman showed local recruits clips of "The U" in an attempt to get guys to stay home.

Fans setting their sights on a group of 5 coach isn't even an example of irrational fanaticism. We're not talking about stealing Nick Saban or something. We're talking about the coach at Houston.

Houston.

Have guys at lesser schools turned down bigger jobs? Sure it happens, but it's anomalous. For every Chris Petersen who doesn't leave because of his son's illness, there are twenty Dan Hawkinses.

 

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