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to me it is the quarterback that is the problem

Number1CanesFan said:
That's all you can say. Weak as your thread. Ridiculous trying to determine if a RS Freshman is good or bad after 3 games as a starter. Richt seems to thin N'kosi is going to be a star.
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Where in the world did you get the idea that Richt thinks N’Kosi is gonna be a star???

It looks like he thinks exactly the opposite. You don’t pull the guy and replace him with a dude you had already given up on if you think he’s gonna be a star.
 
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ddann said:
Where in the world did you get the idea that Richt thinks N’Kosi is gonna be a star???

It looks like he thinks exactly the opposite. You don’t pull the guy and replace him with a dude you had already given up on if you think he’s gonna be a star.
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Cause he said it. Just because he replaced him doesn't mean a thing whether he believes he'll be a star Down the road. He said it and he says that about a lot of our players being "future 1st round draft picks, etc."

Richt seems to not be sure he wants to go thru the growing pains of a young QB. That's what I see.
 
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After the two horrible picks Perry threw, I'm ready to move on to Williams....but I understand not wanting to blow his RS.....the coaches know Rosier is limited, Perry flashes at times, but is a pick six waiting to happen, and Weldon blew his chances.....no amount of playcalling is going to help if the QB can't read a defense
 
The-Perch and all talk about creative play-calling; horizontals versus verticals, etc. Sounds great, and other things to improve the offensive designs. And sure get Richt to be flexible or replace his play-calling-a-s with someone else, cool beans. Some seem to think that's all there is to do (again, ST improvements and such, sure.) If ya question that or overly blame the execution (OL blocking ST-coverage QBs) or reject fly-the-OC-banner, you get pounded here. I, for one, can live with growing pains, Perry or whomever, take some hurtful losses, hope to recruit well, etc; as has happened before. Is it absurd though to think that even with Butch or no Richts on staff or whatever other staff and game-plan changes are made, there would be a lot more to be done and painfully waited through?
 
Malik leads []__[] in TDs for a season and rush TDs. Juxtapose that with who we know he is as a QB and you'll realize Richt has done a **** of a job with Malik and the OL we have. Richt is too busy trying to hide the talent flaws to "open up the offense", and I think we've been spoiled as a fan base by his success in recruiting, fundraising, program changing, rankings, wins and overall success. Pray for Jarren Williams to grow up over the next couple weeks, a talented transfer, and flipping a stud QB in the 2019 class.
 
Mahoney-Pearson said:
Malik leads []__[] in TDs for a season and rush TDs. Juxtapose that with who we know he is as a QB and you'll realize Richt has done a **** of a job with Malik and the OL we have. Richt is too busy trying to hide the talent flaws to "open up the offense", and I think we've been spoiled as a fan base by his success in recruiting, fundraising, program changing, rankings, wins and overall success. Pray for Jarren Williams to grow up over the next couple weeks, a talented transfer, and flipping a stud QB in the 2019 class.
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You making sense.....you are about to be negged and called soft
 
I didn't bother to read the whole thread so I apologize if this sentiment has already been voiced but......

If you don't have a legit QB room by year 3 of your tenure then you probably aren't the guy for the job.
 
jackedaround said:
tell me which of those guys would lead a team to a championship. please do. because that is what the fans mark as success
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First off - your question is asinine at best because we likely don't have a shot at anything other than the Coastal this season. Winning the ACCCG (if we get there) is doubtful because we aren't ready to play with Clemson yet, and I highly doubt we make the playoff with 2 losses so far.

That being said - with this skill position talent and this defense, Morris/Kaaya would have a great shot at the Coastal at least...Morris more than Kaaya, and I think Morris would give us the best shot against Clemson. If we ride with Perry for the rest of the season and we make the changes we need to offensively...maybe Perry's good enough to be considered that caliber of QB too.

The issue is - no matter which QB we plug in, we still have Richt calling the same plays that are continuously getting stuffed by good defenses. Some of it is execution, some of it is the playcall itself, some of it is having the right personnel in the right place. The issue is a combination of things that all pretty much comes back not to a lack of talent on the field (except for maybe at a couple of OL spots and Rosier), but with the coaching/preparation/playcalling.

For personnel not being used correctly - take for instance the 3rd and 11 before our first FG against UVA. We line up 4 wide, to the left wider side of the field, Cager is outside and Harley is inside. Lots of route combinations to choose from...pre-snap, I called it from the stands - fade to Harley. Why? Because it makes the least sense. What happened? Fade to Harley that had zero chance, we settle for the FG.
 
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BWCD said:
That being said - with this skill position talent and this defense, Morris/Kaaya would have a great shot at the Coastal at least...Morris more than Kaaya, and I think Morris would give us the best shot against Clemson. If we ride with Perry for the rest of the season and we make the changes we need to offensively...maybe Perry's good enough to be considered that caliber of QB too.
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I would take Kaaya over what we have. Most accurate passer we've had in decades - his only fault was his utter immobility.
 
LPK2006 said:
I would take Kaaya over what we have. Most accurate passer we've had in decades - his only fault was his utter immobility.
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I respect your opinion, but his immobility versus a Morris or Perry's ability to move and still make good throws is what ranks them ahead of Kaaya for me.
 
BWCD said:
I respect your opinion, but his immobility versus a Morris or Perry's ability to move and still make good throws is what ranks them ahead of Kaaya for me.
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not even close man. look back at Kaays last five games under richt (when richt made the change in the offense). Kaaya's lack of mobility killed his mechanics, but he was easily better than the two QBs we have here. Perry can make throws on the move and some nice ones, but he still cant read defenses and hes been lucky some of the passes hes hit, havent been picked when they easily could have. against UVA, the worst case scenario happened with Perry, which is what we all should have expected esp from a FR, who all summer (everyone close to the program) has been behind in the mental aspect of being a QB. romberg spent the entire summer telling everyone on the radio that perry isnt close to doing what he needs to be doing. we need to find a QB coach who can get through to perry and if it is a perry issue solely, then hopefully one who can develop Williams.
 
hoops156 said:
not even close man. look back at Kaays last five games under richt (when richt made the change in the offense). Kaaya's lack of mobility killed his mechanics, but he was easily better than the two QBs we have here. Perry can make throws on the move and some nice ones, but he still cant read defenses and hes been lucky some of the passes hes hit, havent been picked when they easily could have. against UVA, the worst case scenario happened with Perry, which is what we all should have expected esp from a FR, who all summer (everyone close to the program) has been behind in the mental aspect of being a QB. romberg spent the entire summer telling everyone on the radio that perry isnt close to doing what he needs to be doing. we need to find a QB coach who can get through to perry and if it is a perry issue solely, then hopefully one who can develop Williams.
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I know what you're saying, and I hear it. BUT - with this OL, we need a QB that can move. Kaaya, as good as he is/was, only did well when protected. He did throw with anticipation, but if he had heat on him, he took far too many sacks. That's why I'd prefer a guy like Morris or Perry behind center with what we have right now at this moment in this hypothetical.

I agree with getting someone who can develop Perry/Williams. Honestly, if Williams works hard the rest of the season and into the offseason before Spring ball, he could end up with a stranglehold on the starting job. I think he's that gifted.

BUT - all of this becomes a moot point if Richt makes no changes or makes small ones as a token gesture...which could very well happen.
 
jackedaround said:
it doesn't matter who it has been. if we had any reasonable QB it would be touchdown city. this is not a new problem. it has plagued this program for **** near 15 years.

we need to get a junior or senior transfer in here next year if none of our younger guys are developing by the end of this year. of course it is on the coaches but our QBs can't read and miss wide open guys continually. you can blame richt for recruiting and player development. i am no richt homer either. but last i checked if none of these QBs would start at any other top 25 program (let alone top 10). they should be in film room 20 hours a day.

now, i know you are saying it is UVA. this is miami we shouldn't lose to UVA. well with crap behind center you can lose to JUCO state. UVA isn't the worst team we faced this year. with a reasonable defense and good coaching (bronco) it is easy to stop any team when the QB is dog****. rosier is dog**** if he has to throw. perry played like dog****. what is alarming was richt would go to a guy, for the rest of the game, who hasnt passed to the 1st team in weeks and stinks at passing. perry was playing worse than joescary out there. it was horrid.

you may ask why richt runs the ball? perhaps it is the very reason stated above, he knows our QBs are junk. i agree FB dives are too predictable and we need more creativity to get the ball in our play makers hands. jet sweeps, reverses, shovel passes. ken dorsey, crap line and all, would have this team 7 and 0. even brock berlin would have it 7 and 0. kyle wright.....nevermind.

my point is simple. get your *** out on the recruiting trail and find a competent QB who can manage a game and make big time throws with accuracy above a 5th grade level. otherwise we will never win. defense wins but we do not even have a guy as good as trent dilfer....
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You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG! QB performance and play is predicated on an above average offensive line and play calling, which enables said QB to perform in a fashionable positive manner and all that!
 
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BWCD said:
First off - your question is asinine at best because we likely don't have a shot at anything other than the Coastal this season. Winning the ACCCG (if we get there) is doubtful because we aren't ready to play with Clemson yet, and I highly doubt we make the playoff with 2 losses so far.

That being said - with this skill position talent and this defense, Morris/Kaaya would have a great shot at the Coastal at least...Morris more than Kaaya, and I think Morris would give us the best shot against Clemson. If we ride with Perry for the rest of the season and we make the changes we need to offensively...maybe Perry's good enough to be considered that caliber of QB too.

The issue is - no matter which QB we plug in, we still have Richt calling the same plays that are continuously getting stuffed by good defenses. Some of it is execution, some of it is the playcall itself, some of it is having the right personnel in the right place. The issue is a combination of things that all pretty much comes back not to a lack of talent on the field (except for maybe at a couple of OL spots and Rosier), but with the coaching/preparation/playcalling.

For personnel not being used correctly - take for instance the 3rd and 11 before our first FG against UVA. We line up 4 wide, to the left wider side of the field, Cager is outside and Harley is inside. Lots of route combinations to choose from...pre-snap, I called it from the stands - fade to Harley. Why? Because it makes the least sense. What happened? Fade to Harley that had zero chance, we settle for the FG.
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Speaking of conference defenses. Tough-minded BC's defense is stronger and quicker and faster than Virginia's. Ouch! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe BC's team defense is... No. 25.
 
LPK2006 said:
I would take Kaaya over what we have. Most accurate passer we've had in decades - his only fault was his utter immobility.
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Kaaya also was extremely well coached in high school so he didn't have to rely on Jon Rick to "teach" him. Hence his ability to read defenses. Problem was that Mark Rick's offense was not well suited for him, and Rick didn't change it until after the losing streak. Kid is still on a NFL roster, so he did have some talent.
 
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