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To all the FSU fans complaining about the illegal forward pass penalty...

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matty1 said:
you're right.. but the poster stated that it was "obvious " which is wasn't . great play call and I'm sure we will see it again.. Glad it went they way it did.. learning process with no harm.
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It was a forward pass... but they also didn't have any problem with the Homer completion that was ruled incomplete or the fumble that they got back... The only reason his arm was going forward was that it was hit.

Ok, so you get the touchdown... then we would have punched it in at your goal line at the end of the game for the win... same outcome, different way.
 
You can’t throw two forward passes in a play and both were forward passes if the ref would had miss the call espn would had been asking for us to forfeit the win
 
Lol. Refs didn’t miss a field goal that would have likely won the game. Refs did blow a 20 point lead. Refs didn’t have two crucial turnovers in FSU territory. Refs didn’t produce 45 total yards in the second half on offense. Refs didn’t fail to stop our offense to run out the clock. Refs didn’t suck all second half.
 
matty1 said:
there was nothing obvious about that call. it was **** close............ learn how to draw a line
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I will say it was close, and closer yet because the FSU receiver sold it well by jumping back when catching it, but it was at best parallel even with the player trying to jump back, but that is not the pass that is the receivers feet, but it was actually a slightly forward pass.
 
**** them... The horse collar on deejay, Homers catch and obvious holding calls. Should of been worse.
 
borncane said:
Lol. Refs didn’t miss a field goal that would have likely won the game. Refs did blow a 20 point lead. Refs didn’t have two crucial turnovers in FSU territory. Refs didn’t produce 45 total yards in the second half on offense. Refs didn’t fail to stop our offense to run out the clock. Refs didn’t suck all second half.
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Refs didn't stop them from getting trucked by Homer either. **** boys!!!!
 
Saviorcane said:
I agree they setup an illegal forward pass beautifully.
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Exactly.

Look back at the SETUP of the play. Matthews clearly set his feet a yard ahead of where the QB was. Look, mistakes happen all the time. Maybe Matthews would have set his feet BEHIND where Francois was standing and maybe Francois would have thrown the ball poorly. But that is not what happened. Matthews set up a yard ahead of Francois, and it was only the inaccuracy of the throw (or maybe F$U fans would argue that Francois knew he couldn't throw it to where Matthews was standing) that caused Matthews to have to move backwards to catch it.

The play is designed to trick the defense. Matthews was clearly ahead of the QB at the snap and simply did not move far enough back to establish a clear lateral. F$U fans are whining, but it is Matthews' fault that he did not move far enough backwards, and they don't get to whine about the "closeness" of the call and "inches".

If N'Kosi Perry wanted a completion on the flea flicker to Homer, he should have thrown the ball harder and higher. Coulda woulda shoulda.

Fvck the SemenHoles and their cvnty fans.

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DB4 said:
False. If it’s parallel or forward, it’s a forward pass. I do stats for my team all the time and we do so many smoke screens and swing passes that I see it come up weekly.
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Lmao you can't be serious. Literally every result on Google says I'm right. Doesn't matter how you score it. If a pass is exactly parallel, it is a lateral and can be thrown again.
 
It is a forward pass in the ball is thrown forward, if you watch it the ball was initially thrown forward making it a forward pass, the second throw now becomes an illegal forward pass. Very simple.
 
canefan96 said:
It is a forward pass in the ball is thrown forward, if you watch it the ball was initially thrown forward making it a forward pass, the second throw now becomes an illegal forward pass. Very simple.
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The yellow line ESPN had on the screen was at a skew, which favored FSU’s case:
 

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How about this Dee Wiggins catch! Or no catch:
 

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Even better is that I can absolutely see Vag Tech trying that exact same junk on us and now Manny will hopefully not allow it ever to be a sure a TD if executed legally.
 
I think if we are being honest we lose the momentum without that call. Could have gone either way and a win is a win. In 5 years nobody will remember that play
 
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