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Time to pull our weight(football)

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We have a top 5 baseball program, top 10-15 basketball program with laranaga elevating our profile and getting top level basketball recruits every class and now it's time for football to win over 10 games this year. All of Miami's sports teams are doing great football team needs a great first year with richt
 
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Certainly Canes on the come up in the 3 major mens sports that matter. I'd say baseball been pretty consistent, basketball starting to reload and football definitely has a greatly improved image, recruiting advantage and "real" football staff. Yes, 2016 season success only thing remaining to complete the trifecta.
 
women's tennis is top 10 as well. Blake finally fired our worthless men's tennis coach so it can only go uphill on that front
 
If its true that Kaaya is heisman caliber and a top 5 pick in the NFL and a junior.... 10 wins and legitimately challengng for the ACC title should be the expectation this season.
 
Dirty Sprite said:
If its true that Kaaya is heisman caliber and a top 5 pick in the NFL and a junior.... 10 wins and legitimately challengng for the ACC title should be the expectation this season.
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I could not agree more with this statement. If Kaaya stays healthy and Searels earns his paycheck it wouldn't be shocking to win 10 games.
 
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The baseball team is a top 5 team this year, but they should be a top 5 team every year. One could argue that the baseball team has an even greater home town recruiting advantage than the football team. I think they have disappointed just as much as the football team these last 10 years.
 
hesskilla said:
The baseball team is a top 5 team this year, but they should be a top 5 team every year. One could argue that the baseball team has an even greater home town recruiting advantage than the football team. I think they have disappointed just as much as the football team these last 10 years.
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Disagree. When you factor in how baseball scholarships work, the baseball team is at the most drastic disadvantage of all major sports. As a matter of fact, it's a maricle they can even compete with state schools.
 
Don Caneleone said:
hesskilla said:
The baseball team is a top 5 team this year, but they should be a top 5 team every year. One could argue that the baseball team has an even greater home town recruiting advantage than the football team. I think they have disappointed just as much as the football team these last 10 years.
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Disagree. When you factor in how baseball scholarships work, the baseball team is at the most drastic disadvantage of all major sports. As a matter of fact, it's a maricle they can even compete with state schools.
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Also some of our best prospects leave for the draft every year as well before they get on campus. Have the baseball team underperformed? Yeah in some years but they still have been one of the elite programs in that time frame
 
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Don Caneleone said:
hesskilla said:
The baseball team is a top 5 team this year, but they should be a top 5 team every year. One could argue that the baseball team has an even greater home town recruiting advantage than the football team. I think they have disappointed just as much as the football team these last 10 years.
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Disagree. When you factor in how baseball scholarships work, the baseball team is at the most drastic disadvantage of all major sports. As a matter of fact, it's a maricle they can even compete with state schools.
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Can you expound on this? I'd like to know how it works...
 
Not a single baseball player receives a full scholarship.
In fact, in a recent interview, Coach Morris stated that he has NEVER offered a full ride to any player at Miami.

The program only has 11 or 12 total scholarships to offer, and those can be split among up to 30 players (I believe).

Plus, one year at Miami costs $64K now (room/board/tuition).
 
Camp, I believe you're correct (doling out 11-12 schollies to the entire roster). The reality is, though, that the top flight kids will have everything paid for in a combination of scholarships and grants. I'd wager to say that most of the other starter types would get most of their costs covered as well - there's no way they can have that many guys footing the entire bill.
 
CampHillCane said:
Not a single baseball player receives a full scholarship.
In fact, in a recent interview, Coach Morris stated that he has NEVER offered a full ride to any player at Miami.

The program only has 11 or 12 total scholarships to offer, and those can be split among up to 30 players (I believe).

Plus, one year at Miami costs $64K now (room/board/tuition).
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A lot of the baseball players make up for this through partial academic scholarships. In fact, Vanderbilt's success in baseball is built on copying Miami's approach to splitting up athletic scholarships and making up the difference with academic scholarship support. Otherwise, very few of the players could afford either of those schools.
 
CampHillCane said:
Not a single baseball player receives a full scholarship.
In fact, in a recent interview, Coach Morris stated that he has NEVER offered a full ride to any player at Miami.

The program only has 11 or 12 total scholarships to offer, and those can be split among up to 30 players (I believe).

Plus, one year at Miami costs $64K now (room/board/tuition).
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That is absolutely insane, many need a pay and benefit cut. 256k for 4 years, someone needs to get this crap under control.
 
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CaneOil said:
That is absolutely insane, many need a pay and benefit cut. 256k for 4 years, someone needs to get this crap under control.
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It's crazy to think that when I graduated in 2007, tuition cost was just shy of $35K - 2016 tuition $46K. 33% increase in 9 years.

I will add that Miami has VERY strong Academic scholarship options for undergraduates. I received a 75% scholarship and they even allowed me to extend it for an extra semester due to my major.

Miami is such a unique university and we now have coaches that understand how to sell the trifecta of what makes UM special - location, athletics ad academics.
 
AUcane said:
Camp, I believe you're correct (doling out 11-12 schollies to the entire roster). The reality is, though, that the top flight kids will have everything paid for in a combination of scholarships and grants. I'd wager to say that most of the other starter types would get most of their costs covered as well - there's no way they can have that many guys footing the entire bill.
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Are they allowed to get grants and financial aid while being on a partial athletic scholarship? I believe the NCAA prohibits that now but I could be wrong
 
Don Caneleone said:
hesskilla said:
The baseball team is a top 5 team this year, but they should be a top 5 team every year. One could argue that the baseball team has an even greater home town recruiting advantage than the football team. I think they have disappointed just as much as the football team these last 10 years.
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Disagree. When you factor in how baseball scholarships work, the baseball team is at the most drastic disadvantage of all major sports. As a matter of fact, it's a maricle they can even compete with state schools.
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I have to agree. I hate making excuses, but it is real. Vandy and TCU definitely bucked the trend, but you rarely see the Stanford and U$C there anymore. That is one issue with college baseball that big donors and boosters can't fix, but at state schools, they don't need to...

I'm sure somebody can explain what appears to be one of the more arbitrary and ridiculous NCAA scholarship rules. Where does the number even come from? Why not 18? or 22?.....****, any whole number that allows a full roster 2 deep and an entire pitching staff. If the purpose is to "even the playing field" for everyone, only a state school dolt like Emmert could justify this..

UM
 
FrancisSaywer said:
Dirty Sprite said:
If its true that Kaaya is heisman caliber and a top 5 pick in the NFL and a junior.... 10 wins and legitimately challengng for the ACC title should be the expectation this season.
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I could not agree more with this statement. If Kaaya stays healthy and Searels earns his paycheck it wouldn't be shocking to win 10 games.
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Love to see 10+ wins but I think we're stuck on 9..Vegas says 6.5 go figure..
 
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