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Memnon said:
What makes CAG so Elite is that they select from all branches of the military, so they have a much wider range of people to choose from. Even reservists can submit a package to attend assessment & selection.

They also have a large group of enabler personnel who specialize in whatever specific task they're needed for. Delta can operate on its own as a self-contained entity, they essentially have every aspect of operational functionality already on-hand to conduct missions anywhere in the world.
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Very different from SEALS.

I've known SEALS and have known one since we were in Middle School. When you really spend time with them, and talk with them, you realize that they're a highly trained, very tough human weapon. No Ph.D's among them.

In Special Forces, they are one and all - highly intelligent - it's part of the elemental requirements. Now, they are smart, they're a polite disciplined man that's also tough and can be rough as a cob. That's what most don't understand - they're polite but very lethal - one hail(sp) of a combination.

In Delta - mostly SF personnel - they DO get who they want from any branch, including SEALS - and again - one of the most base of requirements is a very high intelligence - most of whom are of higher intelligence than our General Officers. That's why they are so successful - and you'll probably NEVER hear of their operations. Ghosts - like Grim Reapers. You don't see them coming - only the dead they leave behind.

I recall on Smoke Bomb Hill - when first formed - Delta moved into the former Stockade because the Army built a new stockade, and that was the only structure on Fort Bragg readily available. What a s***hole - I think I only spent one night there - mistaken identity - and the MP's were one string of sphincters. They didn't like my shoulder patch - as a man with a similar patch put a few of them in the hospital a week previous. So I was as welcome as a dose of the clap.

Delta has come a long way. SF has come a long way. The budget of these groups are astounding. Their "armories" are a wet dream. If you can think of it - not only do they have it in inventory - the wildest things one can conceive - they have those, but due to enhanced development - they have those things you can conceive - but much improved, and much, much superior.

Nothing like polite, intelligent gentlemen - more deadly than the Black Plague.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
Very different from SEALS.

I've known SEALS and have known one since we were in Middle School. When you really spend time with them, and talk with them, you realize that they're a highly trained, very tough human weapon. No Ph.D's among them.

In Special Forces, they are one and all - highly intelligent - it's part of the elemental requirements. Now, they are smart, they're a polite disciplined man that's also tough and can be rough as a cob. That's what most don't understand - they're polite but very lethal - one hail(sp) of a combination.

In Delta - mostly SF personnel - they DO get who they want from any branch, including SEALS - and again - one of the most base of requirements is a very high intelligence - most of whom are of higher intelligence than our General Officers. That's why they are so successful - and you'll probably NEVER hear of their operations. Ghosts - like Grim Reapers. You don't see them coming - only the dead they leave behind.

I recall on Smoke Bomb Hill - when first formed - Delta moved into the former Stockade because the Army built a new stockade, and that was the only structure on Fort Bragg readily available. What a s***hole - I think I only spent one night there - mistaken identity - and the MP's were one string of sphincters. They didn't like my shoulder patch - as a man with a similar patch put a few of them in the hospital a week previous. So I was as welcome as a dose of the clap.

Delta has come a long way. SF has come a long way. The budget of these groups are astounding. Their "armories" are a wet dream. If you can think of it - not only do they have it in inventory - the wildest things one can conceive - they have those, but due to enhanced development - they have those things you can conceive - but much improved, and much, much superior.

Nothing like polite, intelligent gentlemen - more deadly than the Black Plague.
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Has special forces ever experimented with physical augmentation, that you’re aware of?
 
IndayArtHauz said:
Has special forces ever experimented with physical augmentation, that you’re aware of?
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That's a fair question. If you'll permit - I'll try to give you an understanding of the base material.

In SF, before I got started, there was battery after battery of tests and questionnaires and one on one phychological evaluatations. How you think, how you approach problems, how you tackle lose/lose situations, and then the aptitude and intelligence testing. A fair number get excluded here.

The interviewer I got looked at my narrow a$$ and kept trying to discourage me - telling me how very few actually made it - some very low single number as a percentage. Time and again, until I got a bit irritated, looked him up and down, and blurted, "Hail.(sp) If you did it - I KNOW I can!" He just smiled a bit, signed off, and sent me forward.

They begin our training by introducing a few things we'd have to perform in full - within time limits - before we'd move on to the next phase. Our instructors were multi-deployment hard combat veterans - some looked like they'd been blown apart and reconfigured as best as possible.

The exhausted us, one hard physical task, piled on another, piled on another until our muscles were screaming, "That's it. That's all I have." Then they'd push another task that was a ball buster all by itself - AFTER they've already run you into the dirt.

We lost some of the finest specimens of manhood one can imagine. Lots of them lost it here - in fact - most of us were gone.

Seeing our small, remaining group wasn't very reassuring. I swear, I prayed every night and every awakening - "Just one more day - I don't want to get embarrassed too soon - just help me get through this one day." Every day I did that.

So now that we've figured out for ourselves that we could go way past the point of exhaustion where our body said it had hit a wall - by using our force of will to continue to keep going in spite of the pure pain and misery, they now threw another Joker into the deck.

If our mind was mandating our body comply - they're going to go after our minds next. Via Sleep Deprivation. Literally 24 hours a day, exercise after exercise, mission after mission, task after task, march after march. I learned that during a two or three minute halt - I could lean against a tree and sleep standing up for those brief minutes.

We lost another big chunk of "survivors" during this period. Sleep deprivation weakened our minds so that our minds couldn't forcefully command our bodies to press forward.

We'd be marching through terrain, and suddenly I found myself in completely different terrain, hundreds of meters from my last memory. My mind went to sleep - but somehow I kept walking, kept moving, maintaining my separation. And those moments of walking sleep is how one goes beyond normal perceptions of limits of human capabilities.

Something within us enabled us to continue far beyond any hope of expectation. Just no quit.

I have no idea as to my limitations - nor did these others - as we never reached our limitations.


Now to my point:

Technology can give us greater vision at distance, night vision, heat detection, and let's just say that the reason that lead was removed from house paint didn't have diddly **** to do with children eating paint and getting lead poisoning. What a crock of **** - but it worked. Used to be difficult to see "inside" a house from the outside. Lead.

Technology can amplify greatly our hearing - and with filters can cancel out most of the unwanted noise. Seismic sensors can detect movement way before any of our other senses could detect movement.

There is testing and development for fitting enhancements that one can step into or remove - such as an improved exoskeleton, enabling one person to do the heavy lifting work of ten men in half the time.

Auto ranging reticle scope actions with additional sensors can elevate an untrained shooter way beyond the accuracy and abilities of highly trained snipers. Untrained soldiers can fire more accurately and shift targets much faster with much greater first shot accuracy than ten highly trained, highly experienced snipers.

You could round up ten well trained snipers, set up multi-distant targets, and your wife with five minutes of training - outshoot all of them together. Maybe not ten - but for certain - oh - seven.

We have bullets that can curve around a pole and take out a target. And even better stuff than that.

But the men. None of that is worth spit - if you don't have the men who can use it better, longer, and smarter than the opponents.

It's not bragging - if it's true.
 
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John McPhee...The Sheriff of Baghdad. He lives in Raleigh and runs a gun training class in Raeford, NC just west of Fayetteville. Was in the battle of Tora Bora as a Delta sniper.

*Just saw the post above about McPhee.

 
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Memnon said:






He's not the only person to speak out against Luttrell, in fact one of the Army Rangers from 1st/75th that was apart of the QRF to rescue Marcus has said that he was very untruthful about what happened.

Mohammed Gulab the guy who saved Marcus's life has called out Marcus for years for lying about the details of Red Wings.

There was actually a DIA Intel report that briefed on ORW & it pretty much line for line contradicted nearly everything that Marcus has ever said about the operation. #1 being, that they were ambushed by 80-200 Taliban. That's been proven to be completely false. At most, it was only about 9.

He was also found with 2 full mags & none of his kit missing. He tells the story about how he essentially broke nearly every bone in his body & lost all of his gear except for his rifle, that was just a flat out lie.

Boyd Renner, one of the most long tenured Operators from TACDevron 3 was apart of the QRF of ORW 2, he can't stand Luttrell & has called him a liar.

The reality is, Luttrell more than likely ran & left several of his teammates to die, because after the first contact initiation of the firefight, the majority of them were all still alive. In fact, in the DIA debrief report, they said they had predator drone footage of nearly the entire SEAL TEAM 10 being still alive several hours after the attack happened.

The problem with the whole ordeal, is that the NSW apparatus concocted this fanciful heroic tale for Hollywood & used the Lone Survivor movie as a recruiting tool, just like they did with American Sniper. But the truth, is that it was a terribly planned & executed operation that cost several good men their lives.
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