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Thoughts on Who Stumbles Next in the ACC

FL Cane said:
But I’m also assuming UVA losses a few down the road, and UL drops another conference game.
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Interesting that UVA's loss to NC State doesn't count for conference record, but it could come into play nonetheless as a common opponent between us and them. Especially interesting in the event of a 3-way tie...

Three (or More) Team Tie
The three (or more) team tiebreaker procedure will be used to either (a) identify one championship game participant, (b) identify both championship game participants, or (c) eliminate team(s) from the tie. If the administration of the three (or more) team tiebreaker results in the elimination of team(s) from the tie, teams remain tied, and both championship game participants have not been determined, the tiebreaker procedure will restart for remaining tied teams.

a. Combined head-to-head win-percentage among the tied teams if all tied teams are common opponents.

b. If all tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other tied teams.
i. If all tied teams are not common opponents and no tied team defeated each of the other tied teams, but a tied team lost to each of the other tied teams, such team shall be eliminated and removed from the tie.

c. Win-percentage against all common opponents.

d. Win-percentage against common opponents based upon their order of finish (overall conference win percentage, with ties broken) and proceeding through other common opponents based upon their order of finish.

e. Combined win-percentage of conference opponents.

f. The tied team with the highest ranking by the Team Rating Score metric provided by SportSource Analytics following the conclusion of regular season games.

g. The participant shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner or Commissioner’s designee.
 
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No_Fly_Zone said:
Interesting that UVA's loss to NC State doesn't count for conference record, but it could come into play nonetheless as a common opponent between us and them. Especially interesting in the event of a 3-way tie...
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Is that true? So if UVA were to run the table but lose to Va Tech we would have the tiebreaker over them? Or if they lose any other ACC game we go to conference opponent win %?

Edit: I just looked it up and it doesn't count for any inter-conference tiebreakers.
 
hurricaneman said:
Is that true? So if UVA were to run the table but lose to Va Tech we would have the tiebreaker over them? Or if they lose any other ACC game we go to conference opponent win %?

Edit: I just looked it up and it doesn't count for any inter-conference tiebreakers.
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Are you sure about the edit? I'd just assumed "all common opponents" means just that: all common opponents (not "all common conference opponents"). On the flip side, Part e specifically says "conference opponents," which indicates if they want only the conference opponent to apply, they use the word "conference". Then again... this is the ACC, so I wouldn't be surprised if its inartfully drafted but then interpreted differently.
 
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VA is so bad…Sometimes the ball isn't round though.

But all this goes to show you why we simply can't use "lost in their championship game and only have one loss" as any part of criteria (no matter the conference) when getting into the show. 15+ teams in conferences and unbalanced schedules, it just can't be that way unless we have a 25-30 team playoff (don't give them any ideas please)

SMU, for instance…Had no biz being in the playoffs last year and VA would be even a worse pick this year if they don't lose til the conference ship.
 
Lousiville loses to Clemson
GT loses to pitt and UGA
UVA runs the table
We run the table

GT vs UVA for the ACC, UVA wins and eliminates GT

UVA and Miami to the Playoffs

Side note but the pitt game scares the **** out of me. But if we lose to pitt for a chance to qualify for the playoffs we deserve to be left out
 
What gives us better lock in playoffs?
- 11-1 miss acccg
- 11-2 Run table but lose acccg right before final 12 selection?
 
SaiyaMan305 said:
Lousiville loses to Clemson
GT loses to pitt and UGA
UVA runs the table
We run the table

GT vs UVA for the ACC, UVA wins and eliminates GT

UVA and Miami to the Playoffs

Side note but the pitt game scares the **** out of me. But if we lose to pitt for a chance to qualify for the playoffs we deserve to be left out
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I hope Clemson is motivated enough at this point to try hard enough to win... Their coordinators are talking about getting the young guys on the field...... They may just use the rest of the season to see what they have ...
 
P-Tizzle said:
Miami wins out they don’t need a ACCCG appearance.
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Its time to win this ****** conference lol Obviously I'd be happy to go 11-1 and make the CFP but not even getting a shot at the ACC title would be disappointing.

Also, while I believe we would be in the CFP in that scenario I dont like the idea of leaving our fate in the hands of the committee.
 
Reyrey said:
All 4 teams play on the road Saturday. We actually are the largest spread of the 4. It would be naive to not expect 1-2 losses to occur here

VT is playing hard. And I think uva takes an L to Cal.
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Reyrey said:
All 4 teams play on the road Saturday. We actually are the largest spread of the 4. It would be naive to not expect 1-2 losses to occur here

VT is playing hard. And I think uva takes an L to Cal.
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Since 2004, Virginia has beaten Virginia Tech a grand total of…once. In 2019 when they won the Costal and got to be the sacrificial lamb to Clemson when they were good. I think it’s safe to bet on VT winning The Commonwealth Cup in 2025.
 
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MovingZen said:
Clearly Miami can't lose another game simply because 2 losses won't get us into the playoffs or probably not in the acccg. We go undefeated, SMU and Pitt are out. We need Duke and Louisville to lose another acc game. We need Virginia or UVA to lose a game or one of them to lose two games. We're way outside looking in.
Virginia needs to lose 2 games and both Duke and Louisville need to lose another game so we can play GT in the acccg.
Sad part is, that's a lot of moving parts for the best team we've had in some time to make the acccg. If the acc is as mid as we all think it is, we're still in a sad state.
I don't know the tiebreaker scenario well enough to predict what happens if a bunch of acc teams are running around with one loss in the acc.
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Pretty insane when you think about all the crap that needs to happen in order to get us in the ACCCG when we currently have only 1 loss of in the conference and it’s not even a bad loss to a bad team. These ACC tiebreaker scenarios are moronic. Why would Duke win a tiebreaker situation with us if we’re 11-1 and they’re 9-3 but have the same conference record? Make it make sense.
 
Pitt and VT will be tough, especially if VT hires Franklin. Yes, I know, but the energy and enthusiasm coupled with their normal environment, and they will be a tough out.
Pitt's TF QB is playing lights out right now, so that too will be a challenge.
I really need to see us continue the second half of the Stanford game energy before I'm comfortable with just about any game.
IMO the SMU game is going to tell us a lot about where we really are. If we drag our *** again, the rest of the season is going to be a toss up, if we come out jacked up and do our job, then we may have our mojo back...
 
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