Thoughts on Miami's First (and Hopefully Only) Loss of the Season (For Non-Hysterical People)

You're not wrong, but let's see where Pedo is in 5 years. They might look like us before, still looking for a coach that can get them more than 8 wins while paying their last 2 coaches buyouts still. I'm fine with maintaining the 9-10 win coach who keeps us strong in the trenches, can recruit top talent, keeps us in the playoff picture and isn't a threat to use us as a stepping stone.

The one condition for me is if you know the guy coming in is guaranteed to get us over the hump (all the same strengths but better CEO/gameday coach) or if the current one starts to dip back in results. If I know we're getting a Dan Lanning or something, then fine, but not for the next maybe he's a hidden gem coach.
9-10 wins doesn’t get you into the playoff and if you win 10 you better make it to the conference title game or lose to two good teams. I don’t see Miami winning out because it’s what they do and what Mario does. So that would be 4 years here no ACC title game.
 
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I seriously don't think any of yall are paying attention to anything relating to the rest of CFB or the ACC teams this year if you think this.
UVA, GTech, Duke, and now Louisville due to tie breaker have a FAR easier path to the ACC CG than we do. The CFP will NOT have 3 ACC teams. It will be a very real struggle to even get 2 ACC teams into the CFP. If ND doesn't beat USC, we WILL end the season with 0 ranked wins. If we don't get into the ACCCG that means there is likely two ACC teams in the ACCCG with 1 or 0 (GTech) losses. Why would the Committe pick us over them without any ranked wins? Why would they pick Us over Louisville even if Louisville won out regular season and lost in the ACCCG? Why would the committe pick us over GTech if GTech wins out but lost in the ACCCG?....

Yall really don't see how bad this loss is. We MUST win the ACC now to get in imo.

unfortunately I think you are correct. Acc gets 2 teams in. Let’s say a 1 loss UVA plays an undefeated GT and wins. GT and UVA get in, we are likely out even as a 1 loss. And I think the selection committee will internally justify it as being based on a lack of faith a Cristobal-coached UM team would have made it far in the playoffs.
 
9-10 wins doesn’t get you into the playoff and if you win 10 you better make it to the conference title game or lose to two good teams. I don’t see Miami winning out because it’s what they do and what Mario does. So that would be 4 years here no ACC title game.
I didn't say it did. I said you are in the picture. You've got the tier 1 coaches who are a lock to get in every year. You have the tier 2 coaches who will definitely get in often, but not every year. Then you have your tier 3 guys who are on the bubble every year and might make it occasionally. Mario appears to be in that Tier 3 group currently. Unless we know the guy we're getting is Tier 1 or 2, then what are you firing him for? So we can go through another 10-20 years of 7 win seasons? How's that working for FSU right now? UF sure looked smart firing Dan Mullen.
 
Remember when JoJo Trader was going to be the main WR this year and now he is not even part of the team?
 
Dawson had three plays from what I saw in my seats ...

1. Bubble screen to WR - probably half the passes
2. Deep passes and long outside the number throws
3. Run into the A gap

Literally called nothing in the middle of the field that I remember

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Mario gave the team the whole week off over the bye. He said so. All they did was non-contact walkthroughs and film study.

It showed today. We didn’t play physical. Tackling and blocking were terrible and the pass game was out of sync
Mario gave the team the whole week off over the bye. He said so. All they did was non-contact walkthroughs and film study.

It showed today. We didn’t play physical. Tackling and blocking were terrible and the pass game was out of sync

Mario was recruiting all week, at high school games, even standing on the sideline of one game. Taking the week “off” led to the team coming out flat, unprepared and out of sync. The Cards had the week off too and came out blazing. This one is on Mario. All he talks about is getting back to “work” but didn’t look like much work was accomplished last week.
 
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No guarantee. UVA and GT are both undefeated in the ACC and do not play each other. If they win out, we are not going to the ACC Championship Game.
It's the ACC - they'll lose to someone. My far bigger concern is the whole Miami needs to win the rest of its games part.
 
Well, Miami's played with fire a bit this season, and the Canes finally got burned. #2 Miami loses a very close game to a good Louisville Team. Warning: this thread is for people who aren't completely hysterical. Seriously, people, get a grip. Here are some thoughts and takeaways on this team, as we look forward to next week.
  • This was - by far - Shannon Dawson's worst game as an OC in Miami. The offense was predictable, and he did absolutely nothing to disguise whether we were going to run or pass. Just a completely putrid performance. When Dawson is on, he's on. When he's not, he's worse than Patrick Nix. Just a terrible offensive game plan. Multiple opportunities to score, and went into a shell. The absence of a play action pass or anything else involving a semblance of creativity was astounding.

  • This run scheme needs to be revamped from the ground up. The fact that 95% of our run game is inside zone directed to the A gap is astounding. Teams have learned and seen the film: if you just collapse the center of our OL, our run game is negated. We need to throw in some pitches, outside runs, and counters. We have too talented an RB room to have the same vanilla run game.

  • Speaking of which, it was inexcusable that we didn't even try to get the run game going at the end of the game. Didn't even try to catch them sleeping. Just predictably stayed with the pass. If it doesn't work, we have a TO and time to try something else. Again, Dawson was atrocious.

  • Carson Beck had a TVD-level performance tonight. Just absolutely terrible throughout. He has an opportunity now to shake it off or crater. The choice is his. Dawson did absolutely nothing to help him, though. Beck also predetermined his targets wayyyyyyyy too much. It was just a terrible performance all around, and UL made plays all over the field. The fact that the intermediate passing game was working and we just went away from it for long stretches is just astounding.

  • Hats off to our defense. After completely ****ting the bed in the first two drives, they were stout for the rest of the game. They did everything they could to keep us in it. UL's O is too good to hold for all game. However, tackling was the worst it has been this season and the second level of our defense just kept getting gashed.

  • Our OL had its worst night of the season. Pass protection was fine, but our run blocking was absolutely terrible. A lot of that is scheme, but we just couldn't create any lanes. Additionally, and the biggest issue so far, is how many drive-killing pre-snap penalties we commit. It's inexcusable. Every game this year, save Bethune, we've had 1-2 drive killing pre-snap penalties. This needs to be fixed; teams are simulating the snap because they realize we have this bad tendency.

  • We have a good WR room. Malachi Toney is a superstar. He's going to be making big plays for years to come. Daniels and Marion did what they needed to tonight. Ultimately, it's almost always impossible to overcome four interceptions.

  • I remain astounded by Shannon Dawson's inability to use our TEs. When we do, we almost always have decent positive yardage. If we do not figure out a way to involve our TEs in our passing game, there's zero reason for any highly touted HS TEs or portal TEs to consider coming here.

  • Carter Davis, what a guy. Kicker was a huge concern coming into this season, and the guy picked up where the Borregales brothers left off. In close games, like today, a good kicker is an essential.

  • Rueben Bain gets hold on every play and never gets a call. For the most part, Refs nitpick us. But like Jimmy Johnson said, you gotta play well enough to make them a non-factor. I would like to see Mario get in their face more. There's a reason why Kirby and other coaches do it. Refs are more hesitant to throw a flag with a very ****ed off coach breathing down their neck. It's human nature.

  • Our secondary struggled in the intermediate passing game tonight. Too much cushion, not enough press. However, they still did enough to win. This L is not on them or is defense. It is squarely on our offense, specifically, our QB and OC.

  • Mario Cristobal has gotten a lot of flak for his gameday coaching abilities, for good reason. However, especially since 2023, Cristobal has been a far better gameday coach. Yes, he play's it too conservative at times, but sometimes it's damned if you do damned if you don't. If we go for the FG there and lose in 2OT, he gets criticized for being too conservative. If we go for the win but throw an INT, he still gets criticized. Cristobal deserves criticism for today's gameplan and flat performance coming off the bye. However, if you made a list of the reasons why we lost today, Cristobal's gameday coaching doesn't even make the top ten. He's not the reason Carson Beck threw four interceptions.

  • Ultimately, as terrible as our O was tonight, we were in a position to win this game. Sometimes, you just don't get the lucky bounce or play and it's not your night. Losing by 3 is far different than getting blown out or manhandled. The optics aren't terrible.

  • As tough as it is to hear right now, this team was never going to be undefeated. We don't have the depth or across-the-board talent/production yet. We knew an L was coming. This is a good UL team. All our goals, an ACC Championship and CFP Appearance are still in front of us. Hopefully, we can use this as a turning point in the season and go on the run. Maybe even get a shot at returning the favor to UL in the ACC Championship. We'll see what this team and program are made of over the next few weeks. But seriously, people, get a grip. This is a setback, but there's a clear path to our goals.
The problem with this is other than SMU all the current undefeated ACC teams we do not play except SMU. Georgia Tech and Duke will take one of those off the board, but if the winner of that game in Virginia run the table, we are out of the ACC title game.

We are very likely, though more scenario where there are multiple one lost teams, and then you get to tiebreakers that get little weird after there’s no direct head to head among everyone

I was convinced we won last night heading into that game for multiple reasons and every single one of them did not happen on game day so forgive me if I am now suspected about everything
 
I seriously don't think any of yall are paying attention to anything relating to the rest of CFB or the ACC teams this year if you think this.
UVA, GTech, Duke, and now Louisville due to tie breaker have a FAR easier path to the ACC CG than we do. The CFP will NOT have 3 ACC teams. It will be a very real struggle to even get 2 ACC teams into the CFP. If ND doesn't beat USC, we WILL end the season with 0 ranked wins. If we don't get into the ACCCG that means there is likely two ACC teams in the ACCCG with 1 or 0 (GTech) losses. Why would the Committe pick us over them without any ranked wins? Why would they pick Us over Louisville even if Louisville won out regular season and lost in the ACCCG? Why would the committe pick us over GTech if GTech wins out but lost in the ACCCG?....

Yall really don't see how bad this loss is. We MUST win the ACC now to get in imo.
I agree. The ACCG winner will get in. It will be a crapshoot as to whether the loser of that game gets in. Three teams WILL NOT get in.
The groundwork for that was laid back in August and will continue through to selection day. All you have to do is look at the polls each week….
 
The coaches don't see anything wrong with our run scheme, which is the problem. They like it. We have bad coaches. The Louisville staff made our coaches look like they have down syndrome
 
Not that i disagree with OP but ill sum it up by saying we got beat in every area of the game. Brohm out-schemed us. Worst tackling ive seen from this D all season. Our OL had its worst game. Dawson’s lack of common sense is amazing. Beck’s worst game. Team looked like they partied the night before. We are still mind boggling bad with penalties

I’ll say it. Chmar Brown needs more touches. Theres just something different when gets opportunities.
 
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