Thoughts from Charlotte

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My biggest take away was this team looked out of gas. The team was not hyped, not energized to the level they need to compete. They were playing in a championship game but were flat as ****. The only explanation is the gas tank was empty. I watched freshman Deejay Dallas try to hype the team up several times. There was very little response. Playing 12 straight games caught up with them.

Clemson is a dink and dunk offense, and somehow we could not stop it. Poor initial game plan from Diaz and a worn out defense made that high school offense look unstoppable. They literally ran three plays the whole game: Read option, bubble screen left, bubble screen right. That was it, 80% of their plays. That was the most frustrating thing to watch. If we got slaughtered with big plays, so be it. But they literally beat us 4 yards at a time, with a few bigger plays here and there.

Thomas needed to step up and had the worst game of his career. He will learn from this and get better.

Langham needed to step up and he was a dud. We need him but he blew his limited opportunities.

The Clemson OL is what our line needs to become. It proves that if you have a really good OL, you can run a super basic offense and still win.

Clemson fans are super annoying. The fake chains and upside down U were out in full effect. We better get revenge on those clowns next year.

Respect to Dabo. He is the only reason I can tolerate Clemson.

Opposing kickers still 100% FG against us. They trotted out a walk on to kick a 45 yarder. In my mind I was thinking, finally they miss one. Nope, he nails it and the Clemson fans party harder then when they scored a TD. Yet our all ACC kicker misses his kick of the same distance. We literally got beat in every phase of the game, and they used a walk on.

Anyway, I refuse to believe that was the same team that beat ND and VT. No Richards, no Herndon and a QB that suddenly has become what we all feared at the beginning of the season. We also missed Walton in a game like this. You add all that up and we had no chance against a Clemson team that has all the experience in the world in these types of games. The old saying is you have to crawl before you can walk. Football is all about progression. We needed to get to this game to get the experience needed to play in these games. We also need to load up on depth and get stronger in the trenches. And can we please get a real ST coach. Next year we will be back. I strongly believe Perry will win this job in the Spring. Richt needs an accurate QB to run his offense and he simple will never have that with Rosier.

Props to all the fans that showed out. The team had really good support. A friend of mine who went to the game was very impressed by the turnout. He said he went the ACC championship game 2 years ago and UNC fans did not show up. The team definitely had our support. Let's give them that same support at the Rock later this month!
 
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I agree with your point about being gassed. Also I think never having played in that type of game played a factor in terms of the level of execution and intensity you have to play with to win. Until now the biggest Nuetral site game these guys have played in, was Last years bowl game, with no stakes. We really hadn't played an elite -great team all season. And the best teams we played were at home. You hate to be on the losing end but it was the perfect ****tail of lack of experience, fatigue, injuries and QB regression for this game to turn out the way it did.
 
""..Thoughts from Charlotte
My biggest take away was this team looked out of gas. The team was not hyped, not energized to the level they need to compete. They were playing in a championship game but were flat as ****. The only explanation is the gas tank was empty. I watched freshman Deejay Dallas try to hype the team up several times. There was very little response. Playing 12 straight games caught up with them.
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Gassed? Please. I can understand being out of gas in the fourth quarter but to come out flat? NO EXCUSE, none. How does that even happen in a championship game? Answers appereciated.
 
I take exception to the characterization of the Clemson offense as a "high school offense".
Clemson has no single type offense. We show spread mostly but will line up in multiple formations. It is actually very complex.
The philosophy is simply a taffy pull..spread it out , pack it inside, extend, shorten till the path of least resistence is found.

Your team had injuries, and you may well have been gassed from 12 straight games, but you weren't beaten by a simple offense.
 
Clemson was bigger, stronger and faster. We will get there in two seasons with the kids that are coming.
 
Shaq really played slow...never gave containment help on the outside from his middle spot...Clemson discovered early they could easily get to the outside with two blockers to take down our outside and middle linebackers...
 
spot on analysis.... and if our DII qb would have lead Thomas on the opening drive which would have been a TD, game would have been different. that poor throw was a sign of what was to come... i was at the game and after watching it on tv at home, that was a pass interference on the DB
 
I was there. Team did NOT come out flat but looked pumped. Did seem to go flat after injury to Bandy right out of the box & then Badgley missing the field goal. We simply don't have the depth yet to compete with a Clemson in case anyone didn't notice how many guys they were running in and out all night. Some of you expect a lot from a pure freshman; i.e., Thomas, Donaldson etc.

""..Thoughts from Charlotte
My biggest take away was this team looked out of gas. The team was not hyped, not energized to the level they need to compete. They were playing in a championship game but were flat as ****. The only explanation is the gas tank was empty. I watched freshman Deejay Dallas try to hype the team up several times. There was very little response. Playing 12 straight games caught up with them.
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Gassed? Please. I can understand being out of gas in the fourth quarter but to come out flat? NO EXCUSE, none. How does that even happen in a championship game? Answers appereciated.
 
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they were gassed and flat. no doubt about it, we saw it from the third row behind the bench. only a few players were showing energy.
 
To the OP’s point about Deejay Dallas, I was so fired up watching him in warm-ups...I actually thought maybe we could pull this off. He is one cool customer for a freshman. Love his attitude.
 
To the OP’s point about Deejay Dallas, I was so fired up watching him in warm-ups...I actually thought maybe we could pull this off. He is one cool customer for a freshman. Love his attitude.

Head scratcher given this, on why Richt waited until the game was out of reach to put him in at wildcat like he did vs ND.
 
To the OP’s point about Deejay Dallas, I was so fired up watching him in warm-ups...I actually thought maybe we could pull this off. He is one cool customer for a freshman. Love his attitude.

Head scratcher given this, on why Richt waited until the game was out of reach to put him in at wildcat like he did vs ND.

wow.. can somebody make up their minds.. CMR gets roasted for pulling Rosier and now you are upset that we didn't go to the wildcat sooner. Isn't that the same as pulling the QB??
 
I take exception to the characterization of the Clemson offense as a "high school offense".
Clemson has no single type offense. We show spread mostly but will line up in multiple formations. It is actually very complex.
The philosophy is simply a taffy pull..spread it out , pack it inside, extend, shorten till the path of least resistence is found.

Your team had injuries, and you may well have been gassed from 12 straight games, but you weren't beaten by a simple offense.

I think it would be more accurate to say that Clemson didn't NEED to do anything elaborate on offense to comfortably win this one due to all the other factors mentioned.

No need to get offended. This is a Miami board, after all.
 
Good post. Losing Herndon and Richards within a week was a lot bigger than the media made it out to be - especially since their injuries coincided with Rosier forgetting how to throw the football. Those are guys that can make plays that change momentum. If Herndon caught that same pass the flat to Irvin he might still be running instead of getting tripped up. At minimum he picks up the 1st down. This was an underdog situation even if they ran through the tunnel at 100% health, with all the guys missing they needed to be perfect to win and they were the exact opposite. We knew depth was an issue this year and at the end it showed up in a big way.

The defense played bad but they were put in tough spots and Clemson's QB was perfect when he needed to be. Our punter gave them a titled field and our all acc kicker gave them a huge momentum swing when we couldn't take advantage of the gift turnover. Receivers dropped catchable balls. Defenders missed easy fumble recoveries. We came up a yard short on 3rd down seemingly every time. Every other pass got batted down. Things just snowballed as they can sometimes. The time off is much needed, I'd be surprised if the defense especially doesn't come out with a big time effort against Wisconsin.
 
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We went too. They destroyed us right out of gate. They are simply better. Not sure how many of our guys would start for them. That said why CMR thought he would run a 2 set offense with zero motion and try to just plain out execute them has me quite upset. I am not spending anymore of my hard earned money on Bowl game if this is his idea of a game plan for a good team. We need an OC for next season even with Perry.

Thanks to all the fans that showed up they made the trip worthwhile. We had a great time Friday night with everyone.
 
We played a superior team for the first time all season, and everything went wrong when we needed all to go our way.

During the season, (except for ND) we barely pulled out wins against awful to average at best opponents, making a plethora of mistakes every week. Ones you cant make against a good/very good opponent.

Lets see anyone beat a playoff team with multiple drops, multiple missed TD/First down passes, multiple STs snafus, multiple OL whiffs on rushers, etc.

****, besides ND, our 1st quarter play alone could/should have doomed us in almost every game. We beat VT despite an early whiff on first and goal at the one, and FOUR turnovers in four straight possessions.

I thought we came out flat and lethargic for every game all year besides ND, including the ACC CG. But maybe its not coming out flat, its we arent very good?
 
We are not very good. We are an average Coastal team that got lucky a few games. Hey sometimes thats the way it goes in sports and I'll take it but that "game plan" for Clemson was pathetic. I have seen Perry live and he is an upgrade. Very naturally gifted player. Not sure about the smarts yet so we will see. We need more than just one or 2 players to get first downs against good teams we need an OC who can challenge defenses by making them move,watching them move and calling plays to take advantage of their decisions. Just lining up in the same 2 formations against top 10 schools with top 10 defensive coaches is just not gonna work
 
I thought the Clemson fans were, for the most part, pretty cool. Of course there were a few idiots, but most were real friendly, happy that Miami was there and were hoping for a good game, which we did not deliver.

Good turnout by the Canes, great time tailgating.
 
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