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OrangeBowlMagic

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For those of you who didn't watch the Chiefs/Rams MNF game, I sincerely apologize. CFB is infinitely better than the NFL, but what was just displayed in LA was complete mastery of the offensive game. And not that this is anything earth-shattering, but this is the "new" way to play football, and if you choose to play antiquated, old-school type football in today's game, you simply have no chance to compete.

And I say this isn't earth-shattering, because pretty much everyone sees the same thing and knows where this game is and is headed, but inexplicably we still have coaches out there like Mark Richt and Brian Schottenheimer in Seattle and CPJ at Ga Tech, Jon Gruden, Mike McCarthy etc...literally dozens and dozens of coaches out there who are just clueless and are being lapped by the innovative offensive minds.

Look no further than the top of the sport...the Super Bowl last year was 41-33, Brady threw for 500 yards, and with the game on the line, the call was Philly Special, something that would've gotten you fired for calling 15 years ago. And they ran it in the biggest spot on the biggest stage. 74 combined points in a Super Bowl. And in college, there was no bigger "old school" coach than Nick Saban 5-10 years ago. Defense & running the ball, with the QB and the pass game basically an afterthought. Now he goes out and recruits the best QB in the country, brings in NFL guys to coach his offense, and they're unfair this year and possibly the best he's ever had. Think about last year. Jalen Hurts is coming back off of almost winning a National Championship as a true freshman...he was literally a Deshaun Watson out of body experience away from winning a NC. That's your returning QB. At Miami, we have a kid who beats Virginia Tech and we think he's scaring away transfers. At Alabama, they have a kid who was a play away from winning a NC, and Saban replaces him at halftime of the next year NC game with someone who can run a more creative, downfield passing game.

The game has changed. People who coach like Richt are fossils and dead. Either he hires an OC here at least somewhat in the mold of what we witnessed on the field tonight, or we have no chance to be truly back. Yes, better QB play and better OL play and a team much more talented than 90% of its opponents can have good seasons. But you're not truly getting to the top of the CFB mountain unless you adapt. And the offensive staff on this team isn't even close to adapting. I realize the guys are professionals, but what we watched tonight and what we watch on Saturdays in Miami doesn't even look like the same sport.
 
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Here, here bro. Told my frat Richt needs to speed this off season visiting Reid or McVay.

I see my Bears and they are playing offense this yr v. Last year and in Nagy’s first yr as head coach, he turned one of the most historically anemic offense to a play off contender w a top 5 offense.

Payton, McVay, Nagy, Pederson, Reid...they’ve changed how the game is called. Too much eye candy for the defense to focus on gives the offense the advantage.

With our playmakers with how these guys call games, we would avg 40 easy. Problem is Richt is holding this team back.
 
Rellyrell said:
Here, here bro. Told my frat Richt needs to speed this off season visiting Reid or McVay.

I see my Bears and they are playing offense this yr v. Last year and in Nagy’s first yr as head coach, he turned one of the most historically anemic offense to a play off contender w a top 5 offense.

Payton, McVay, Nagy, Pederson, Reid...they’ve changed how the game is called. Too much eye candy for the defense to focus on gives the offense the advantage.

With our playmakers with how these guys call games, we would avg 40 easy. Problem is Richt is holding this team back.
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Nagy impresses me more than McVay. He’s a freaking offensive genius.
 
I think he is gaining a more confidence in Kosi and without our TE's he may have to run spread most of the Pitt game. When they start opening up the box a little, hit them with a nice run.
 
As soon as the chiefs went motion triple option on 4th and 2 with hill as the pitch man I immediately wondered what that could look like with Jeff Thomas.

These are NFL coaches man. the pros aren’t even running basic pro style offenses with anymore
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
For those of you who didn't watch the Chiefs/Rams MNF game, I sincerely apologize. CFB is infinitely better than the NFL, but what was just displayed in LA was complete mastery of the offensive game. And not that this is anything earth-shattering, but this is the "new" way to play football, and if you choose to play antiquated, old-school type football in today's game, you simply have no chance to compete.

And I say this isn't earth-shattering, because pretty much everyone sees the same thing and knows where this game is and is headed, but inexplicably we still have coaches out there like Mark Richt and Brian Schottenheimer in Seattle and CPJ at Ga Tech, Jon Gruden, Mike McCarthy etc...literally dozens and dozens of coaches out there who are just clueless and are being lapped by the innovative offensive minds.

Look no further than the top of the sport...the Super Bowl last year was 41-33, Brady threw for 500 yards, and with the game on the line, the call was Philly Special, something that would've gotten you fired for calling 15 years ago. And they ran it in the biggest spot on the biggest stage. 74 combined points in a Super Bowl. And in college, there was no bigger "old school" coach than Nick Saban 5-10 years ago. Defense & running the ball, with the QB and the pass game basically an afterthought. Now he goes out and recruits the best QB in the country, brings in NFL guys to coach his offense, and they're unfair this year and possibly the best he's ever had. Think about last year. Jalen Hurts is coming back off of almost winning a National Championship as a true freshman...he was literally a Deshaun Watson out of body experience away from winning a NC. That's your returning QB. At Miami, we have a kid who beats Virginia Tech and we think he's scaring away transfers. At Alabama, they have a kid who was a play away from winning a NC, and Saban replaces him at halftime of the next year NC game with someone who can run a more creative, downfield passing game.

The game has changed. People who coach like Richt are fossils and dead. Either he hires an OC here at least somewhat in the mold of what we witnessed on the field tonight, or we have no chance to be truly back. Yes, better QB play and better OL play and a team much more talented than 90% of its opponents can have good seasons. But you're not truly getting to the top of the CFB mountain unless you adapt. And the offensive staff on this team isn't even close to adapting. I realize the guys are professionals, but what we watched tonight and what we watch on Saturdays in Miami doesn't even look like the same sport.
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Bama is still old-school and still #1
 
Rellyrell said:
Here, here bro. Told my frat Richt needs to speed this off season visiting Reid or McVay.

I see my Bears and they are playing offense this yr v. Last year and in Nagy’s first yr as head coach, he turned one of the most historically anemic offense to a play off contender w a top 5 offense.

Payton, McVay, Nagy, Pederson, Reid...they’ve changed how the game is called. Too much eye candy for the defense to focus on gives the offense the advantage.

With our playmakers with how these guys call games, we would avg 40 easy. Problem is Richt is holding this team back.
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ill put Frank Reich in that list
 
You know what I saw last night? Mike Leach's Air Raid. Now just imagine that offense at Miami.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
4 years ago. There are not opinions. In fact, I didn't even say what type of offense/football I prefer. This is only facts. The game has changed. You change with it, or you're left behind.
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Lol, or you stay old school and stay at the top.

Be honest with yourself.

I don't disagree that the majority loves the high powered offense. But the TRUTH is that Bama still dominates the old school way.

Dominating defense and they score what they need to score. These days they just put up a few more numbers to please the masses

Oh yeah, we used to do the EXACT same thing
 
As a Bears fan, I love what Nagy has done with the offense.

But the game has changed because the rules have changed. Quarterbacks are now untouchable. Receivers have zero fear of going over the middle and can seemingly push off with impunity.

What we are seeing is glorified 7 on 7.

I don’t care much honestly. I just miss when the NFL had this thing called “defense”.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Here, here bro. Told my frat Richt needs to speed this off season visiting Reid or McVay.

I see my Bears and they are playing offense this yr v. Last year and in Nagy’s first yr as head coach, he turned one of the most historically anemic offense to a play off contender w a top 5 offense.

Payton, McVay, Nagy, Pederson, Reid...they’ve changed how the game is called. Too much eye candy for the defense to focus on gives the offense the advantage.

With our playmakers with how these guys call games, we would avg 40 easy. Problem is Richt is holding this team back.
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That’s great in theory. But you Have to account for a genius like those guys being able to teach, recruit and develop players. For example a genius like bill Belicheck I don’t would do good in college. Like Nick Saban in the pros. Not just as far as HC but OCS too...now to the O imo it’s the same thing. U watch the best Os in college football. What they run isn’t all that complex. It’s about doing what you do very very well at this level. Example is Notre Dame. Or a chip kelly O. Most the the kids u coach are not great football talents physically or mentally in college. The allotted time coaches have to spend with these guys to learn these Os is obv nothing compared to what nfl coaches get. I remember watching the games last night and I believe it was Young or whoever was calling the game speaking on the length of play calls and audibles compared to anything you get in college..even if you feel MR O needs tweaks which I agree with. As far a motions, and window dressings. Fans hate to here it but what ever OC we get it’s about executing. What we run is not diff from a lot of teams. A diff playcaller would help
 
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