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Saban is the best in the business and he is at a school with top-4 resources.

If Saban had stayed at Sparty, does he ever title? My bet is he eventually wins the conference and drums Mich, but nothing more.
 
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305to954 said:
Sooo the OP is just pushing this same tired narrative..that MR is holding us back from the greatness of yesteryears after literally one mediocre year here while he’s tryna build a program..and now y’all questioning MRs dedication to winning..imo this **** is laughable..but when ppl hold my similar opinion they get dismissed as a slurper or not a real fan..nobody is Nick saban. Nobody in modern CFB has reached the pinnacle and stayed at the top for this long. Even Pete Carroll’s USC tenure got stale. Urban Myer couldn’t substain this level..
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Three 4 game losing streaks In 3 seasons is hardly “one mediocre year”.
 
I can respect Saban's hustle and method of demanding perfection...never being satisfied. As a former Marine Corps Officer, that type of attention to detail, discipline, and tough love brings warriors home alive from war. It's the bedrock of success for leaders, whether it's in a military career, the business world, and pretty much any other occupation.
 
Saban is the GOAT... no doubt. But all richt has to do to improve his team is find someone who can score more than 14pts a game, with Miami talent,.... and he just won’t do it.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
You’re misinterpreting my reasoning. I said Saban was one of the best, which means with those resources he gets it done. But let’s be honest, no coach has what Saban has at his disposal. He hires fired head coaches to be analysts. His staff is massive.

I’m saying if everything was equal and he didn’t have the best players at every position he wouldn’t have more than a couple rings. He’s the best coach in America, although the playing field isn’t level
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A chunk of this article was about the depths of the UA program when he first took it over. The dude basically had to reach up to touch bottom. No doubt about where he is now however he had to have a plan to get UA where it is today. Mike Shula had the same resources. Why did he fail at UA?

By the way, I am not a big Saban fan. I do respect the dude for what he has been able to accomplish at the Collegiate level though. There are very good up and coming coaches out there. UM Admin. just has to have a plan to find those, and they should start doing their homework right now for the future will be a repeat of the recent past. The impossible, in my opinion, takes a little longer to accomplish.
 
Tough player discipline etc are meaningless if the HC isn't on the same plane. Coddling inferior assistant coaches and nepotistic hiring undermine discipline as the players see the hypocrisy.
 
MotoSniper said:
I can respect Saban's hustle and method of demanding perfection...never being satisfied. As a former Marine Corps Officer, that type of attention to detail, discipline, and tough love brings warriors home alive from war. It's the bedrock of success for leaders, whether it's in a military career, the business world, and pretty much any other occupation.
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Much respect and agreement with you Sir. Thank you very much for your Service!!
 
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BigCaneAl said:
Yeah, that's great and all, but they forgot to mention the unlimited resources, recruiting bags, gazillion analysts, etc etc.....
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Those are excuses Sir. Give us reasons of how we can turn our beloved Program around? With the same resources we have now, I'm quite sure there're people out there that would have done a much better job. MR's performance at the U at best has been average to below average at best with the past season being a nightmare.
 
NE Canes said:
Unfortunately, Randy could not keep it going continually had undisciplined teams. Among his other issues as well.
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The OP says "It ain't rcoket science" The article has a lot of details describing his success. However, just discipline and recruiting isn't enough. In fact former Saban coordinators have tried and failed at major programs. Muschamp anyone?

I hate when posters think it isn't brain surgery when the average brain surgeon or rocket scientist would love a college football head coach salary.

There is no guaranteed formula for success in Coral Gables, and the closest things to it require a much larger budget.
 
TheEye said:
The OP says "It ain't rcoket science" The article has a lot of details describing his success. However, just discipline and recruiting isn't enough. In fact former Saban coordinators have tried and failed at major programs. Muschamp anyone?

I hate when posters think it isn't brain surgery when the average brain surgeon or rocket scientist would love a college football head coach salary.

There is no guaranteed formula for success in Coral Gables, and the closest things to it require a much larger budget.
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Then it's over boys and girls. Last person out please bring the keys with you!! You're not a Democrat are you?? More money is the solution ha! How bout hiring you or me for about $500K. I will GUARANTEE YOU that we would do a better job than MR!!
 
Itiswhatitis said:
Gumbo was just following the bigger pot!! No $7.5M/Year at the U!!
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The pot and the fact that he knows he can become one of the top dawgs in the s.e.c. Also, coach orgeron is going to build a strong team as well, the changing of the guard in the s.e.c. wont be long. And for real, clemson is kind of looked at as a s.e.c. school which is why the excluded several Canes from being on the acc 1st team!
 
Itiswhatitis said:
Then it's over boys and girls. Last person out please bring the keys with you!! You're not a Democrat are you?? More money is the solution ha! How bout hiring you or me for about $500K. I will GUARANTEE YOU that we would do a better job than MR!!
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Do you have a binder too? I have heard this "guarantee" before...
 
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A good read.

Some things stand out to me:

Shula took it when few would, and every single former player interviewed for this story has praise for him. But in 2006, locker-room “cancers” festered. Player accountability slipped.
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Hmmm....I've heard that phrase somewhere before.

The scholarship restrictions and shallow rosters didn’t help. “Cancers” doubled as dynamic athletes. Steep drop-offs from first to second string discouraged suspensions.
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Suspensions aren't a problem at UM right now. Neither are players getting kicked off the team. There's that word again....

“Men,” Kines said, per two retellings of the story, “Rich Rodriguez gave up a gold mine for a coal mine.”
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That *******. If only.

“When I can replace you, I will replace you,” he would say to those who chose the latter route. And he meant it.
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Jimmy Johnson style.

“By that time,” says then-senior defensive lineman Keith Saunders, “the cancers had grown pretty big. Some guys didn’t care anymore, and it showed.” Saban, according to Johnson, called out upperclassmen responsible for the erosion. Says Davis, paraphrasing his coach: “‘I tried to tell you that this was going to happen, and you didn’t believe me. Maybe now you’ll start listening.'”
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I'm sensing a theme here.

I think UM is at the end of moving out the dead weight. This season has sucked but I think better days are ahead. I can agree that some fundamental changes should be looked at. At my alma mater, Appalachian State, Jerry Moore won a lot of games but never the big one. In fact, there were rumblings of a change in leadership around that time. 2004 saw a dismal season. Coach Moore took his staff up to WVU see the very same Rick Rodriguez to study their spread offense. They took that and won the next three championships along with a win at Michigan in 2007. A solid staff contributed to that but the new offense was the spark that was needed. Man, I hope Coach Richt can see what we all saw the past two games and implements more of those concepts. There wouldn't even have to be any staff turnover (which isn't happening, folks).
 
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