This has to be the most illegitimate conference championship of all time

Josh Pate just did a wonderful Sarah McLaughlin special , the entire ACC. He said Virginia gets to play for the championship having lost to NC State but not being credited for the loss and also not having to face the #2, #3, #4 and #5 ACC teams.

I'm not even mad about that, because we've seen that happen before. UVA still went 7-1 in conference play, they aren't the issue. Duke is the issue. If it was Miami vs. UVA on Saturday, no one would complain.
 
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Josh Pate just did a wonderful Sarah McLaughlin special , the entire ACC. He said Virginia gets to play for the championship having lost to NC State but not being credited for the loss and also not having to face the #2, #3, #4 and #5 ACC teams.
horrible.
 
I would like to see the committee's actual bylaws. We always hear about the "five highest ranked" conference champions. But what if there aren't five champions good enough to be ranked?
Excellent point. My guess is if Duke wins, they would put Tulane at #24 and JMU at #25 after championship week just so they could get their additional 2 conference champs needed.
 
You can’t have a league with 17 teams and the championship is just 1 vs 2. The NFL has 16 teams in each conference and there are 3 weeks of post-season games to figure out who the champion is.

If they’re really gonna make these insanely large leagues, you have do go to 9 conference games (they are) and play maybe one OOC game. Then you have playoffs within the conference. Even if it’s just 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3, but you can’t have this happen.

Miami vs either UVA or Duke next week is a 3+ score game. And honestly I think Pitt or GT probably smack these teams too. But you can’t put 17 teams in a bucket, have them play 8 games, and say 1 vs 2 with obscure tiebreakers sets a champion.
 
You can’t have a league with 17 teams and the championship is just 1 vs 2. The NFL has 16 teams in each conference and there are 3 weeks of post-season games to figure out who the champion is.

If they’re really gonna make these insanely large leagues, you have do go to 9 conference games (they are) and play maybe one OOC game. Then you have playoffs within the conference. Even if it’s just 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3, but you can’t have this happen.

Miami vs either UVA or Duke next week is a 3+ score game. And honestly I think Pitt or GT probably smack these teams too. But you can’t put 17 teams in a bucket, have them play 8 games, and say 1 vs 2 with obscure tiebreakers sets a champion.
If they had highest ranked team as the 2nd tiebreaker after H2H, this would eliminate most of the problem.
 
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Virginia just beat Duke 3 weeks ago 34-17....let that sink in. However, Manny does make some very good points about the playoff debacle in his ESPN interview.
 
I'm not even mad about that, because we've seen that happen before. UVA still went 7-1 in conference play, they aren't the issue. Duke is the issue. If it was Miami vs. UVA on Saturday, no one would complain.

7-2*

~ Never forget the ACC permitted this stupidity.
 
This. The unbalanced schedules in today’s giant conferences are a joke. Especially with CFP spots being so closely tied to conference championships. Is a team that goes 8-0 in conference but played the 8 worst teams really better than a team that went 7-1 against the top teams?
Do you think we eventually get to a point where they do away with conference championships all together? Not only, like you said, are the unbalanced conference schedules an issue, but you have some of these teams who are scared to play in it or happy they aren’t in it for fear of being penalized by the committee if they lose.
 
Do you think we eventually get to a point where they do away with conference championships all together? Not only, like you said, are the unbalanced conference schedules an issue, but you have some of these teams who are scared to play in it or happy they aren’t in it for fear of being penalized by the committee if they lose.
Eventually I think they’re going to do away with conferences all together. There’s bottom feeders in both the SEC and Big10 that are reaping the financial benefits the elite programs bring to tve conference. The Big10 is already feeling the pressure because they’re discussing selling a piece of the conference revenue to private equity in exchange for some up front cash to help the lower tier programs pay their revenue sharing agreements. Naturally, the schools that actually make money are not happy about losing a piece of the conference TV money to prop up the teams that are struggling to compete.

I’ve long held the belief that the top programs are going to eventually take their ball and play on a different park. It’s already started to happen with it essentially becoming a “Big. 2” conference format. I believe that even the Biig 2 are going to trim fat and distance themselves from the Purdue’s and Rutgers of the world. I believe a majority of the SEC, the top half of the big 10 and a handful of profitable football programs from the ACC and BiG12 will have their own football only league that is completely separate from the NCAA where they make their own rules.
 
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Eventually I think they’re going to do away with conferences all together. There’s bottom feeders in both the SEC and Big10 that are reaping the financial benefits the elite programs bring to tve conference. The Big10 is already feeling the pressure because they’re discussing selling a piece of the conference revenue to private equity in exchange for some up front cash to help the lower tier programs pay their revenue sharing agreements. Naturally, the schools that actually make money are not happy about losing a piece of the conference TV money to prop up the teams that are struggling to compete.

I’ve long held the belief that the top programs are going to eventually take their ball and play on a different park. It’s already started to happen with it essentially becoming a “Big. 2” conference format. I believe that even the Biig 2 are going to trim fat and distance themselves from the Purdue’s and Rutgers of the world. I believe a majority of the SEC, the top half of the big 10 and a handful of profitable football programs from the ACC and BiG12 will have their own football only league that is completely separate from the NCAA where they make their own rules.
They should set up college football like professional soccer Premier, Second, third division. If you are in the bottom 3 of the premier, moved down to 2nd division. If you win you move up a division.

Plus you must have stadium size and resources to compete. After that people with IQs over 130 can get the other rules.
 
They should set up college football like professional soccer Premier, Second, third division. If you are in the bottom 3 of the premier, moved down to 2nd division. If you win you move up a division.

Plus you must have stadium size and resources to compete. After that people with IQs over 130 can get the other rules.
I’ve always liked the idea of a two tier system that allows the best teams in the second tier a chance to move up while sending perennial losers in the first tier down.
 
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