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calinative umstudent said:
ericsaid said:
calinative umstudent said:
ericsaid said:
QuatroCane said:
You're parents are going to be ****ed when they see your progress report this semester, you're spending way too much time here.
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Funny story about that is that I'M AN ADULT! HAHAHAHA...and I had a 4.0 GPA, again, HAHAHA.

Go back upstairs before Momma catches you playing hooky.

The benefit of having three monitors at work is that I get to have one screen up just to troll you all.
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Congrats on maintaining a 4.0 gpa, I'm sure you'll put that prestigious ASU degree to full use.

But seriously the only area App st is remotely at our level is OL. It's unfortunate for you that DL happens to be our strongest position group on Defense. Also the only thing you DL can hope for is to only get blown 5 yards off the line of scrimmage as opposed to 10 or more. You can't pass on offense, and your pass defense is laughable. You guys better be praying that Kaaya (a likely 1st/2nd round pick) has as poor of a performance as he had against FAU....but that's unlikely. It's just laughable to think you have anywhere near the talent or coaching to compete with us.
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How exactly is the pass defense laughable? The game is won and lost at the line of scrimmage. If the play calls can allow the defensive line and OLB's to affect the passer, the pass defense plays better. UT had one long completion against App while App had an interception and another ball that should've been an INT due to pressure on Dobbs.

The offense CAN throw the ball, it's just a matter of how much. You don't need to throw for 200 yards a game to win.
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UT is ***, and Dobbs is trash and only useful for running. Don't believe the hype saying he's a good qb, cause he's not.
Kaaya is actually good. We have good Wrs, certainly better and more athletic than any of your dbs. There is zero chance you DL will win even close to a majority of snaps it would take to slow down Kaaya. You guys will have to rely on the blitz which will just result in more big plays from us.
And you are right, you don't NEED 200 pass yards to win games, but that's if you are dominant at running and have a great defense. Simply, you WILL need to pass successfully to stay within 21 points of us. Sure early on or into the half it may be a close game, but there's no chance you shut our offense down from scoring 35+ points. Do you think your offense will be able to score 30+ points without passing well? If you guys are forced to pass, it's gunna get ugly real quick for you guys
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The beauty of running a 3-4 with edge rushers capable of getting to the QB and dropping into coverage is that every play is a blitz. If Kaaya is struggling with the new system then he is more than likely struggling with protections and when you don't know where the extra rusher is coming from it could spell disaster.

I don't think App will score 35 points but they don't need to.
 
RepTheGables said:
RDCane said:
EricSaid Caneinsight Poster - Mountaineer Message Board

Miami (FL) at App State Discussion
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From that board:

I went to the Miami boards attempting to talk X's and O's but quickly learned that the fans on that board are generally more like NFL fans; they have no intention of talking X's and O's because they don't understand them.
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TRUF'
 
I'll tell ya what fellas. App St. is becoming a really trendy dawg in the betting world. I think we roll really big.
 
Tell me who of relevance app state has beaten? For Gods sake you guys lost to arkansas state and got blown out by michigan last year. For the past 5 years your avg recruiting rank is 113, Miami 17. You guys play hard and are well coached and maybe had a shot against us if Golden was still coach......but he's not. You literally have 0 shot to win this game, and I don't think it will even be close. We out talent you at every single position.
 
TheCane55 said:
Tell me who of relevance app state has beaten? For Gods sake you guys lost to arkansas state and got blown out by michigan last year. For the past 5 years your avg recruiting rank is 113, Miami 17. You guys play hard and are well coached and maybe had a shot against us if Golden was still coach......but he's not. You literally have 0 shot to win this game, and I don't think it will even be close. We out talent you at every single position.
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MAN O MAN! Someone call off the game, App State has zero chance to win so why bother showing up?

App should've beaten UT with those same recruits yet UT has had better recruiting than Miami....

In theory, if you're 17th ranked recruiting classes meant anything you would've won the ACC by now, but ya haven't. App St matches up well with Miami in the trenches and that is where this game will be won or lost.
 
58straight said:
I thought we reached a new low that time a duke football fan was on here trolling, now fcs fans are talking ****.......:monkey-serious:
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ericsaid said:
...App St matches up well with Miami in the trenches and that is where this game will be won or lost.
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Ive asked you a few times and you havent answered...

With Miami's FB larger than any of your starting DL, how do you offer App St matches up well with the Canes in tje trenches?

Do you beleive their [supposed] speed advantage is that much of a difference maker?
 
Remember how we were supposed to lose to Arkansas St a couple of years ago? Even Golden couldn't manage to do that. Richt isn't losing to a Sun Belt team.
 
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Jeeperaf said:
ericsaid said:
...App St matches up well with Miami in the trenches and that is where this game will be won or lost.
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Ive asked you a few times and you havent answered...

With Miami's FB larger than any of your starting DL, how do you offer App St matches up well with the Canes in tje trenches?

Do you beleive their [supposed] speed advantage is that much of a difference maker?
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There is a speed disparity on App's line compared to other defensive lines. If the defensive ends can use their size and speed to their advantage, it can be a difference maker. They aren't asked to seal the edge or hold the offensive lines push on running plays, they are asked to get up field and attack the play. I wouldn't get so wrapped up in the size difference also because the middle linebackers are as big as the defensive ends. It doesn't seem ideal, however Nate Woody has used this defense with these types of players for as long as I can remember (at Wofford and then at App) and has always been fairly successful.

An offensive line, in my opinion, needs to be athletic. Teams like Miami are able to recruit big athletic linemen however the schools in the G5 generally don't have that luxury. We will see if the speed is primarily useful in G5 games or if it translates to P5 games as well. I feel like i'm beating a dead horse but the defensive line speed worked well against Tennessee. The 250 lb end split a double team, shed the running back and sacked Dobbs. He broke through the line several other times. That isn't a result of not being prepared. We will see if Miami can do any better but i'm not sure what to expect.
 
JimmyJohnsonsHair said:
Remember how we were supposed to lose to Arkansas St a couple of years ago? Even Golden couldn't manage to do that. Richt isn't losing to a Sun Belt team.
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A couple of years ago was Arkansas State in a down year. Al Golden wasn't a great coach and he's obviously become the message board's scapegoat.
 
ericsaid said:
JimmyJohnsonsHair said:
Remember how we were supposed to lose to Arkansas St a couple of years ago? Even Golden couldn't manage to do that. Richt isn't losing to a Sun Belt team.
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A couple of years ago was Arkansas State in a down year. Al Golden wasn't a great coach and he's obviously become the message board's scapegoat.
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Listen... you can complain that our fans don't know a lot about App. State (Because why would we?), but don't come onto a Canes message board making statements like you have watched us play every game for the last 4 years. Golden was not a scapegoat, he was an absolutely terrible coach. His recruiting was crap, his gameday managment skills were crap, he couldn't develop players, his schemes sucked, he hired awful assistants. He was simply a used car salesman who could talk but not walk.
 
ericsaid said:
Jeeperaf said:
ericsaid said:
...App St matches up well with Miami in the trenches and that is where this game will be won or lost.
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Ive asked you a few times and you havent answered...

With Miami's FB larger than any of your starting DL, how do you offer App St matches up well with the Canes in tje trenches?

Do you beleive their [supposed] speed advantage is that much of a difference maker?
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There is a speed disparity on App's line compared to other defensive lines. If the defensive ends can use their size and speed to their advantage, it can be a difference maker. They aren't asked to seal the edge or hold the offensive lines push on running plays, they are asked to get up field and attack the play. I wouldn't get so wrapped up in the size difference also because the middle linebackers are as big as the defensive ends. It doesn't seem ideal, however Nate Woody has used this defense with these types of players for as long as I can remember (at Wofford and then at App) and has always been fairly successful.

An offensive line, in my opinion, needs to be athletic. Teams like Miami are able to recruit big athletic linemen however the schools in the G5 generally don't have that luxury. We will see if the speed is primarily useful in G5 games or if it translates to P5 games as well. I feel like i'm beating a dead horse but the defensive line speed worked well against Tennessee. The 250 lb end split a double team, shed the running back and sacked Dobbs. He broke through the line several other times. That isn't a result of not being prepared. We will see if Miami can do any better but i'm not sure what to expect.
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TN qb was enept and their OC (who was the same OC that was at Michagan when app state won) kept trying to do the same ineffective ****. hmmmm kawinkdink ya think......

eric u arent going to change our minds nor are we going to change urs. to the victor goes all the spoils.
 
ericsaid said:
...The 250 lb end split a double team, shed the running back and sacked Dobbs. He broke through the line several other times...
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Now you are talking...and appreciate the perspective...

I will counterpoint with Roadgrader Williams...

I believe his addition to the squad and role in O scheme is the largest factor for returning some.semblence of a run game upfront push that has been missing for years at Miami.

Instead of your 250lb DL attacking a hold the position OL or even backpedaling in lass coverage...he now going to.be attacked by a 280ish lb wrecking ball running down hill at him. Williams is.not a 200ish lb RB giving a chip block as your DL rush by...he is as aggressive and.bigger than they are.

IMHO...he is the key difference in run and pass protection.schemes that I just dont see an answer for from App St.

In fact, at risk of being very, very wrong, Ill go so.far as.to say Richt's scheme at Miami might well lead to a mini-renaissance of the roadgrader FB position that SOME other programs will look to copy in years ahead.

Good discussion.
 
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Jeeperaf said:
ericsaid said:
...The 250 lb end split a double team, shed the running back and sacked Dobbs. He broke through the line several other times...
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Now you are talking...and appreciate the perspective...

I will counterpoint with Roadgrader Williams...

I believe his addition to the squad and role in O scheme is the largest factor for returning some.semblence of a run game upfront push that has been missing for years at Miami.

Instead of your 250lb DL attacking a hold the position OL or even backpedaling in lass coverage...he now going to.be attacked by a 280ish lb wrecking ball running down hill at him. Williams is.not a 200ish lb RB giving a chip block as your DL rush by...he is as aggressive and.bigger than they are.

IMHO...he is the key difference in run and pass protection.schemes that I just dont see an answer for from App St.

In fact, at risk of being very, very wrong, Ill go so.far as.to say Richt's scheme at Miami might well lead to a mini-renaissance of the roadgrader FB position that SOME other programs will look to copy in years ahead.

Good discussion.
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As long as the 280 lbs can move like 240, I think that is a solid bet. If i'm Richt, I run two back shotgun formation in obvious passing situations to have a safety valve and what amounts to an extra offensive lineman in the backfield.

The thing is, while Fuller was solid against the run, the primary objective of the defensive line is to keep the offensive line occupied so the linebackers in the middle can make a play. The way Miami's run game goes will largely depend on how often the line, and your bowling ball of a FB can reach the second level. If they are pushed back at all and Boggs or Law are free to roam, the running backs will be stopped for 3 and 4 yards all day long. However, I expect Miami will be able to run for around 180 yards with the two backs that they have. Anything less is a disappointment for Miami and a win for App.
 
road grader bowling ball wrecking ball

whatever we want to call him he is going to be knocking someone on their *** all game long
 
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