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They say CMR can't win the big ones.....

Echtcane said:
Jimmy Johnson took over at UM the year after a national championship. Richt inherited the Al Golden/NCAA cloud show. Still, Jimmy lost 5 games his first year and lost 2 in his second. Even in year 3 with an amazing collection of talent and a Heisman QB, he lost "the big one." But JJ is rightly thought of with reverence here. So for Richt, these next 2 games won't say much about whether he can win the big one, and they certainly won't determine where this program is going to be 2-3 years from now. That's Richt's job - to build the foundation so that this program is ready to win the big one without it being some kind of crazy upset. Anything big we win in the meantime is pure joy our fans ought to bask in, but the real goal is to get to a different place than where we are now.
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Standing ovation!
 
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As far as I'm concerned, he won the big one for me already. Beating FSU at home after 7 years of disappointing losses.
 
Echtcane said:
Jimmy Johnson took over at UM the year after a national championship. Richt inherited the Al Golden/NCAA cloud show. Still, Jimmy lost 5 games his first year and lost 2 in his second. Even in year 3 with an amazing collection of talent and a Heisman QB, he lost "the big one." But JJ is rightly thought of with reverence here. So for Richt, these next 2 games won't say much about whether he can win the big one, and they certainly won't determine where this program is going to be 2-3 years from now. That's Richt's job - to build the foundation so that this program is ready to win the big one without it being some kind of crazy upset. Anything big we win in the meantime is pure joy our fans ought to bask in, but the real goal is to get to a different place than where we are now.
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And some here say older folks (with knowledge of the history of this program) shouldn't be on this message board. Money post!
 
We as fans have been talking playoffs

Richt has every player and coach focused solely on the coastal


It's all they talk about, coastal is their goal


No way we lose
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
iLoveTDs said:
We are in year 2 of a full rebuild.
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No we're not.

This is a reload, not a rebuild.

Richt basically inherited an NFL team, and He lost the ACCC.

Anything less than at least an ACCCG appearance is a failure.
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That's a tongue in cheek comment, right? I love your sense of humor, because you purposely say things that are so incredibly stupid that it is actually very, very, very funny.
 
Loose Cannon said:
Not "they." UGA fans say he can't win the big one. I live in Savannah, Georgia, and if Athens is the heart of Dawg Country, then this place is the soul. I have to put up with these ****ers daily. "Richt can't win the big game..." YOU SPOILED MOTHER****ERS! For 20 ****ing years before Mark Richt got to Athens you averaged a seasonal record of 6-7. After you hired Richt, you averaged 10-2. YOU MOTHER****ERS NEVER HAD A BIG GAME BEFORE RICHT!

The history of the UGA football program reads:

****, ****, ****, ****, Hershel Walker (1980), **** **** **** ****, **** CMRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

The 15 years of Mark Richt's tenure is the greatest period of sustained success the university had ever encountered. And they threw him away. UGA has 8 wins in their last 29 meetings against Florida. Richt owns 5 of those, yet they fired Richt because he couldn't beat Florida.
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I figured this Cannon dude for a Johnny Rebel good ol' boy! I just can't figure out why he's a Cane fan. May be he graduated from Miami, Florida. hUh. But then again, he's probably ANOTHER bandwagon, wannabe' Cane fan. hUh.
 
RickDerris said:
I'm probably in the minority but I feel the bowl game last year was a really big game for us .
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The bowl game was a big win for Miami. Because mighty West Virginia was a BONA FIDE legitimate Top 12 team going into the bowl game, and Miami pounded them late in the second-quarter and second-half. hUh.
 
The Franchise said:
It might seem unfair, but Rick's gotta beat Vag Tech this year. All the good he's done takes a huge gut punch if he can't win the Coastal this year.

Some UM fans are setting VT up as some great program, but they aren't. They're a good, well-coached team that overachieves.

They don't get the material we get, and we're playing at home in front of a packed house at night. We had one real goal this year, and Rick's been hammering that regularly--win the Coastal.

We're healthy. We're home. We've got better material. It's our time. I'm smelling an ambush for 60 minutes. Everything comes together for us for a magical fall night.
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This guy gets it. Rick should win this game. He has the better team.
 
Southcane said:
Echtcane said:
Jimmy Johnson took over at UM the year after a national championship. Richt inherited the Al Golden/NCAA cloud show. Still, Jimmy lost 5 games his first year and lost 2 in his second. Even in year 3 with an amazing collection of talent and a Heisman QB, he lost "the big one." But JJ is rightly thought of with reverence here. So for Richt, these next 2 games won't say much about whether he can win the big one, and they certainly won't determine where this program is going to be 2-3 years from now. That's Richt's job - to build the foundation so that this program is ready to win the big one without it being some kind of crazy upset. Anything big we win in the meantime is pure joy our fans ought to bask in, but the real goal is to get to a different place than where we are now.
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And some here say older folks (with knowledge of the history of this program) shouldn't be on this message board. Money post!
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That is all well and good........Lets define the "Big One" versus "Fair Expectations"...... The "Al Golden/NCAA cloud" can't be a catch all excuse for every loss or shortcoming (if they happen)

So lets look at this game specifically.

We have out recruited VT by an average of 13.5 spots over the last 4 years(only our junior class where VT-24, UM-26 did they out recruit us). Our average class rank is 18 versus 31.5 for VT. I know recruiting rankings aren't the end all be all......but a good indicator of overall talent level on team. This team still won 8 games in a season that Golden was fired midway that Richt inherited and they beat VT.

We are at home, the talent advantage is really in our favor, VT is in year 2 of a new coach as well.........So why shouldn't the expectation today be for us to win this game?

I don't buy into myth of the 3-4 year rebuilding at schools that are expected to win. Richt himself took over for a perennial 7-8 win team at UGA....went 13-1 year 2. I can come up many more examples. Saban took over a 3 win LSU, Won SEC year 2, and a 6-6 team at Bama was 12-0 in SECCG year 2, Tressel took over 8 win OSU teams Undefeated year 2, Meyer won MNC year 2 taking over for fired 7-8 win Zook, Stoops won MNC year 2 at OU after they won 18 games previous 4 years, Carroll went 11-2 year 2 and finished #4 at USC taking over for a perennial 6-8 win team.....Right guy doesn't need 3-4 years.

I think we have over inflated the actual damage to the program from the NCAA cloud as an excuse for way too many years. We have severely underachieved to our talent level......and that includes last year. And let me be perfectly clear....I am not down on Richt at all....He is exactly doing what he should be doing....weird crap happens year 1, Saban lost to LA-Monroe.

I can accept that we may not be ready to compete with Bama and maybe a few others........but I don't agree with the poster that beating VT at home on Saturday night is "icing on the cake" right now like he is alluding to or doesn't "say much" about Richt's ability to win the big one. It should be the expectation as of today and Franchise is right......a loss would be major gut punch.
 
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mackjones said:
Loose Cannon said:
Not "they." UGA fans say he can't win the big one. I live in Savannah, Georgia, and if Athens is the heart of Dawg Country, then this place is the soul. I have to put up with these ****ers daily. "Richt can't win the big game..." YOU SPOILED MOTHER****ERS! For 20 ****ing years before Mark Richt got to Athens you averaged a seasonal record of 6-7. After you hired Richt, you averaged 10-2. YOU MOTHER****ERS NEVER HAD A BIG GAME BEFORE RICHT!

The history of the UGA football program reads:

****, ****, ****, ****, Hershel Walker (1980), **** **** **** ****, **** CMRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

The 15 years of Mark Richt's tenure is the greatest period of sustained success the university had ever encountered. And they threw him away. UGA has 8 wins in their last 29 meetings against Florida. Richt owns 5 of those, yet they fired Richt because he couldn't beat Florida.
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I figured this Cannon dude for a Johnny Rebel good ol' boy! I just can't figure out why he's a Cane fan. May be he graduated from Miami, Florida. hUh. But then again, he's probably ANOTHER bandwagon, wannabe' Cane fan. hUh.
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In the early 80's I was just getting old enough to get into college football. I didn't yet know enough about it to have a favorite team. My folks bought me **** like Bulldog t-shirts. My dad still has an un-opened 6 pack of Coca-Cola commemorating the the 1980 UGA Championship.

UGA was the "home" team, but they weren't my team. Hershel was gone to the NFL, and I wasn't old enough to appreciate the UGA hey-day. All the kids my age couldn't relate to UGA either. After Hershel, wasn't much to get excited about. All the cool kids in school were hyping up a team to the south of us. See, I grew up in DEEP south Georgia. Tallahassee was 3 hours closer than Athens, so I watched my friends become FSU fans in absence of any sign of life from the "home team."

Me, being the ******* that I am, decided to cheer for the team that would **** off the most people. And the more we won, the more they hated it. Then FSU picked up a kid named Charlie Ward from a little 3A Georgia high school down the road, the rivalry really heated up. Both my personal rivalry with friends and the FSU/Miami rivalry on the field.

Ain't no bandwagon around here, kiddo. Being a Hurricane is as much a part of who I am as anything. I grew up in an place where everybody was either a UGA or FSU fan and I decided to be something else. Everybody knew me as that kid that roots for Thug U. I didn't grow up in Miami where you were a Hurricane before you even knew it. I chose this. I chose it when it wasn't popular BECAUSE it wasn't popular. When we started winning, it became something uniquely mine. It has always been a thing that defines me in the eyes of people who know me. A lot of the people in the Miami area or surrounding area, where you are surrounded by Canes don't full grasp the level of hate that's out there for Miami. I was THE only Hurricane fan growing up. When we were up I was despised by everyone. When we were down I was kicked by everyone. I learned to embrace the hate, even to enjoy it. Because from a very unique perspective, I understand the hate. I know what it means when they hate. It means they're afraid.
 
This is an important game but not one of those big ones. The big ones would be beating a contender in the ACC chip game and playoff wins.
 
monkey1371 said:
The "Al Golden/NCAA cloud" can't be a catch all excuse for every loss or shortcoming (if they happen)
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LOL...it's all His supporters got left.

They're scared of expectations, everything has to be perfect for Richt to win the stinkin' Coastal in their eyes.
 
Winning the big game is all subjective in the mind of the beholder. If some think a coach that won a couple ofsec titles can not win the big game then they must view the only big game is the NC game. Not but a handful of active coaches I can think of that have ever won a N C. Must be 98% of active coaches who can not win the big game in that case. Beating F S U was a big game in my subjective opinion.
 
Richt has lost a conference game by 15 pts or more in 11 straight years.

It's not just losing the big game, but the way in which the losses have happened.

I think Miami is the better team than VT and will win tomorrow. If we do lose, and it's a close game, that's one thing. But if we get blown out it'll be a continuation of a disturbing trend.
 
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bobbydigius said:
This is an important game but not one of those big ones. The big ones would be beating a contender in the ACC chip game and playoff wins.
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Playing to virtually wrap up the Coastal, which we have never won, isn’t a big game to you?
 
bshaw28 said:
Richt has lost a conference game by 15 pts or more in 11 straight years.

It's not just losing the big game, but the way in which the losses have happened.

I think Miami is the better team than VT and will win tomorrow. If we do lose, and it's a close game, that's one thing. But if we get blown out it'll be a continuation of a disturbing trend.
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You’re good with the stats, but that one is retarded. Losing by 1 isn’t any better than losing by 21. We gotta win this one.
 
iLoveTDs said:
Even if we lose to VT and ND I'm not gonna put it on CMR. We are in year 2 of a full rebuild. We are at 73 scholarship players, star RB out for year, baseball player at QB, and youth everywhere.

ND is better than us right now. In the trenches is where their strength is.

VT is def winnable, but I still think Fuentes has his system up and running faster than Richt to this point (helps that a top 5 DC decided to stay on staff). CMR didn't have that luxury.
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ND won 4 games last year. There is no reason we shouldn't beat them this time around.
 
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