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1mg of Epi said:
I was responding specifically to the notion that Miami football was destroyed by something other than UMs own negligence and imcompetence.

Not sure what u want me to research or what the playoff committee has to do with it, which is enriching Miami’s coffers as it is every P5.
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But you decided to quote my entire thought. Someone else with any i/q or just common sense; I guess intellect would not bother quoting the entire statement - & then proceed to just pick out one statement to critique.. you probably wish you can become a tmz employee, those narcissists that stalk people = literally.
 
afan said:
But you decided to quote my entire thought. Someone else with any i/q or just common sense; I guess intellect would not bother quoting the entire statement - & then proceed to just pick out one statement to critique.. you probably wish you can become a tmz employee, those narcissists that stalk people = literally.
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My comment was perfectly inline with the entirety of your post.

This is a message board dude. People have discussions and debates. If you can’t handle someone disagreeing with you or debating your points, and have to resort to name calling and insults, I suggest you not post here.
 
Liquidstoke said:
How about the Neo-**** Mafioso Criminal Traitor Conservatives...??
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nystateofmind said:
I will say this.

Donna was horrible for athletics, but if she got her way and hired Alvarez after Butch left, we don’t collapse as soon as we did under Coker.

And we probably win at least 1 other Natty.
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Lol. Have to disagree with you there. Barry Alvarez wouldve kept us relevant for a few years longer than Coker but definitely not a power. He wouldve played physical football because he was a disciplinarian. Your team takes on ur personality. But the game had passed him up by that point and he wouldnt have been able to relate to us at all. Met him several times. Very dry personality. Would've made us boring like shalalalala. She tried to stick us with all her connections and for the most part did. Hence our current problems.
 
RichtshawFerguson said:
It’s amazing how people can take any topic and say to themselves “This is a great topic to inject politics into”.
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It is reserved for fragile and paranoid simplistic angry right wing males. They are the dumbest people in America. It is not minimal. It is not debatable. It plays out in priceless fashion on this forum and many others every single day.

But at least I never have to ask how any of it works. I never have to wonder how birtherism worked. I never have to ask how the laughable cynicism regarding Epstein worked. I never have to ask how Hillary and uranium worked. The runaway stupidity is on full breathtaking display.
 
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mhb said:
It's only political when you realize Donna Shalala's goal for Miami was to be a women's basket ball school.

Cognitive dissonance right about now. Defending a person that over watched the OB being demolished.

Clown.
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Stop lying.

City of Miami destroyed the OB. Donna is not to blame for the OB.
 
Coker was garbage and had no balls.... literally.. hiring from within has been one of the ultimate downfall period.

Can we finally get to Clemsons’ level, jesus, what they did to taint was very impressive... I wish we handled them like that... at least I can still dream.
 
SFbayCane said:
Its fascinating to me that none of Donna's supporters ever mention the report that was commissioned by the BOT that showed that Donna was running the university like her own personal slush fund. This is not about politics, this is about watching a high ranking member of the Clinton crime syndicate take over a university with the expressed intent of diminishing its biggest marketing item, the football program.

Yes we all know that Donna funneled a lot of money through the Athletic Department, but the way she oversaw the program was the tell tale sign IMO.
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What a load of crap.

Feel free to post that "report". And don't provide a link from Info Wars.

You say it's "not about politics" and then use the phrase "Clinton crime syndicate" 10 words later.

Do you know what "expressed intent" means? Feel free to post the statement that proves Donna intended to diminish UM's football program. After you post the "report".

And, suuuure, Donna "funneled money" through the Athletic Department. Not even close to being true. ****, the Athletic Department would have been happy to have millions of dollars being "funneled through".
 
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Don't forget who Donna (the Troll) had as AD. Paul (I never met a sandwich I didn't like) Dee. He spent more time looking for a free meal than he did worrying about the Football program.
 
nystateofmind said:
I will say this.

Donna was horrible for athletics, but if she got her way and hired Alvarez after Butch left, we don’t collapse as soon as we did under Coker.

And we probably win at least 1 other Natty.
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Disagree. First of all, IIRC, Alvarez turned the Miami job down. But let's say you're right and he wanted to come here but never was offered, I say he would have flubbed the 2001 season because he is too much of an egotist to ride another coach's horse to a championship. No way he takes the job and doesn't make every effort to mold the team into his lame, ****ty, Big 10, three yards and a cloud of dust image.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
What a load of crap.

Feel free to post that "report".

You will not find a copy of that report available to the public. It was never made public and no one in the local media reported on it.


You say it's "not about politics" and then use the phrase "Clinton crime syndicate" 10 words later.

The Clinton Crime syndicate is a well known criminal organization that has nothing to do with politics. If you cannot see that then Im not sure you and I can have this conversation. Again, politics has nothing to do with this discussion.


Do you know what "expressed intent" means? Feel free to post the statement that proves Donna intended to diminish UM's football program. After you post the "report".

Donna reportedly told the BOT early on in her reign that she could not believe they would allow the football program to be more recognizable than the university itself. A subset of the BOT was attracted to this concept. Proof's in the puddin'. Look at how things shook out during Donna reign of terror over UM Football.


And, suuuure, Donna "funneled money" through the Athletic Department. Not even close to being true. ****, the Athletic Department would have been happy to have millions of dollars being "funneled through".


Its my understanding that Donna significantly increased spending on football and the AD overall during her time. You won't find the smoking gun on Donna that you think is buried on this subset of the issue.
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My comments above in red.
 
The single biggest mistake we made, was arguably hiring Shannon. They needed to stop some bleeding and he was not the guy to do that. Series of mistakes after that.
 
SFbayCane said:
My comments above in red.
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Look, I'm not going to go into a big song-and-dance here.

But your posting is a bunch of nonsense.

You are trying to claim that there is a "report" that was never made available to the general public, and never reported by the press. You are the sole individual trying to claim knowledge of the conclusions of this "report" and then you claim that nobody will ever see it. And we are just supposed to believe you. Yeah, I'm calling BS on that, I have a TON of friends at UM, at all levels within the university community (including a bunch of friends in Iron Arrow), and there has never been any sort of report discussed, mentioned, or alluded to. Not only that, but if there was such a report, there is no way in **** that the UM Board of Trustees would have allowed Shalala to continue teaching or being associated with UM in any capacity.

But, sure, some random internet poster has in-depth knowledge of this top secret report and its conclusions.

Not to mention the fact that you, literally, destroyed all of your credibility with the "Clinton crime syndicate is a well known criminal organization that has nothing to do with politics" non sequitur. The fact that you use "Clinton" has EVERYTHING to do with politics, and you know it.

And then you use the word "reportedly" to reference some random comment that Donna SUPPOSEDLY said. And even if she said what YOU CLAIM (and I have never heard anyone associated with UM report this "quote" in 20 years), the statement has nothing to do with Donna wanting to "diminish" the football team. You said "expressed intent" to diminish, while her "reportedly supposedly" quote (if it ever even happened) simply was a question as to why the University of Miami isn't as well known on its own.

Look, just be honest, everything you wrote is based on things people told you. Same as your comments about the Athletic Department budget. "It is my understanding". FROM WHAT? From what some right-wing conspiracy theorist tells you?

Donna made mistakes, particularly with the Med School (and hospital purchase) and the sale of certain UM assets (particularly South Campus).

But your nonsense on Donna "funneling money" through the Athletic Department (or "laundering" as it would be called in legal terms) is a bridge that is way, way too far. As is your commentary that treats a non-existent "report" as some factual actuality, even though you can't and won't prove it to anyone, preferring instead to pontificate on how we will "never see the report" which has never been released to the general public and never reported on by the (presumably liberal) press.

Yeah, it's all just a bunch of nonsense. But because I can't grasp "the Clinton crime syndicate", you "can't even have a conversation about it" with me.

Yeah, that's it. You can't talk about it because I'm just too stupid.
 
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