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ddann said:
It was looking like a possibility…but then Ole Miss promoted Pete Golding to HC. And Pete was Bama’s DC under Saban for a while, so do the math.
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Yeah I suspect they made a call to the committee about what would be "just enough" to be kept in the playoff.

They're going to get their teeth kicked in, but you're right that they won't be out.
 
cookies said:
I want to jump ND, if we get in, to avoid the doomsday scenario of BYU beating Texas Tech, closely, then #9 being the real cutoff for the playoff teams.

TT is much better than SMU last year; though, even if we go to 10 for whatever reason, that’s not a guarantee just yet; however likely.
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Am convinced this is what's gonna happen. Because life is pain
 
tdjones34 said:
they penalized them all last year

Conference Championship game loses as always been a penalty
* 1st year in 12 team, all losers dropped spots
* in 4 team playoffs, it cost teams spots, including previous undefeated UGA a few years ago
* before playoffs it cost teams playing in NC

Now all the sudden the last team on the bubble with 2 loses, 1 God awful loss cant be punished?
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Yea. But they were clear last season that teams who had locked spots in the playoff at the end of the regular season would not be left out if they lost their championship game while other idle teams not in their title games were left without risk . The debate was Bama over SMU. Now SMU kinda **** the bed against PSU. So maybe that’s the reasoning the committee would use this season to justify a change in philosophy but then it’s Pandora’s box cause why play in a conf title game if it can cost you your playoff spot.


Thats why I hope the committee opts for the lesser of two evils and moves Miami ahead of ND sloting everyone behind us knowing they have the opportunity to win their way in besides ND. I also think having ND on the bubble makes it less likely that ****ery will ensue in the title games.
 
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Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
Yea. But they were clear last season that teams who had locked spots in the playoff at the end of the regular season would not be left out if they lost their championship game while other idle teams not in their title games were left without risk . The debate was Bama over SMU. Now SMU kinda **** the bed against PSU. So maybe that’s the reasoning the committee would use this season to justify a change in philosophy but then it’s Pandora’s box cause why play in a conf title game if it can cost you your playoff spot.
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SMU was 11-1 not 10-2 with a terrible loss
the bubble outside teams were a 3 loss bama and a Miami team that just lost 2 of 3.

This year is different, there will be atleast 1 team out that everyone agrees deserves in
 
tdjones34 said:
SMU was 11-1 not 10-2 with a terrible loss
the bubble outside teams were a 3 loss bama and a Miami team that just lost 2 of 3.

This year is different, there will be atleast 1 team out that everyone agrees deserves in
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The records aren’t what matters it’s the idea that Oklahoma, Ole Miss, and ND get a pass while Bama could lose a spot by having earned a conf title appearance. The only way the committee can dodge that bullet is if they come out Tuesday night and say Bama will be out if they lose and that they would have put Miami in front of them if they hadn’t made the sec title game. They have to safe guard against this idea that being the second place team in B1G/SEC is bad and that being 3rd is better cause you dodge the conf title game. Thats why it’s way easier to just move us up because that is some real circular logic.

Not to mention and this is the real kicker. Nobody actually thinks Oklahoma is good. We would be favored against them. Bama out played them in their loss by a wide margin similar to how we dominated the majority of the game against SMU (minus the cheating officials.)
 
Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
The records aren’t what matters it’s the idea that Oklahoma, Ole Miss, and ND get a pass while Bama could lose a spot by having earned a conf title appearance. The only way the committee can dodge that bullet is if they come out Tuesday night and say Bama will be out if they lose and that they would have put Miami in front of them if they hadn’t made the sec title game. They have to safe guard against this idea that being the second place team in B1G/SEC is bad and that being 3rd is better cause you dodge the conf title game. Thats why it’s way easier to just move us up because that is some real circular logic.
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They will eliminate conference games sooner than later, as pointless as bowl games now
 
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tdjones34 said:
I disagree, if Bama was in top 7, I'd say they were safe
being the last team on bubble at #10, makes it easy
a 3-loss team that got dog walked by FSU

if there was no 10-2 Miami, I would also say they were safe like SMU last year, but there is a more than deserving team, either UM or ND potentially left out

it reality Oklahoma is the absolute Joke in
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They can’t make the SEC championship game a punishment.
 
I don't understand why so many are convinced that SMU making the playoff last year set some inviolable precedent that CG losers must still make the playoff. SMU got embarrassed by PSU in the playoff.

Why isn't the takeaway that the CFP should have put someone else in (Bama, us, etc)? If you're a fringe playoff team and you lose your CG you should get left out. If you're a fringe playoff team and you choose not to play in your CG cause you don't want to risk losing, you should also be left out for being a *****.
 
tdjones34 said:
They will eliminate conference games sooner than later, as pointless as bowl games now
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I think the best way to do it is that the season should now start with conference play. Run your gauntlet and see where the conference rankings settle except for the rivalry week games. Then you play your OOC. Some teams won’t play anyone and it won’t matter what they do. Other teams will play someone worth a **** and the strength of each league should be made evident. If you don’t play anyone you are at risk for getting jumped. Then have the rivalry week and title games.

I think this format would force teams to schedule meaningful OOC games to avoid getting jumped especially since other teams playing poorly could affect the quality of their season. If you are hanging your hat on beating South Carolina and Florida and then they blow it against Clemson or FSU now you are at risk.
 
flips said:
I don't understand why so many are convinced that SMU making the playoff last year set some inviolable precedent that CG losers must still make the playoff. SMU got embarrassed by PSU in the playoff.

Why isn't the takeaway that the CFP should have put someone else in (Bama, us, etc)? If you're a fringe playoff team and you lose your CG you should get left out. If you're a fringe playoff team and you choose not to play in your CG cause you don't want to risk losing, you should also be left out for being a *****.
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Cause teams who don’t play in them can’t get dropped out. Oklahoma sucks and if they had to play Bama or UGA again they would lose and be out. Same with Oregon if they were lining up against OSU this week they would be punted as well

The logic isn’t correct but the reality is what it is. It is unfair for conference runner ups to be penalized while teams who don’t play in them aren’t at risk.
 
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Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
Cause teams who don’t play in them can’t get dropped out. Oklahoma sucks and if they had to play Bama or UGA again they would lose and be out. Same with Oregon if they were lining up against OSU this week they would be punted as well
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Fair point: teams that didn't get in CG but were in the playoff the week before the CGs can't get dropped out.

The issue I have is teams that are playing in the CG should have both a potential positive (autobid) and negative (possibly missing the playoff) outcome. If you can lose the CG and not affect your playoff chances there's no downside to losing the game, which is bizarre in sports.

Ideally, either get rid of the CGs entirely and the top ranked team in each conference in the CFP gets the autobid, or keep them and just choose the CG teams by the CFP rankings and not how teams performed in often very unbalanced conference schedules (see: Duke).
 
1mg of Epi said:
No. It’s too profitable. They aren’t penalizing a team for participating.
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Just penalized UGA a few years ago out of playoffs. It's always been that way
Penalized every team last year on seeding

I get society has gone so Puzzy now but it's always been penalized
 
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