There are no shortcuts to Glory

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Watching the Clemson game was tough but I wasn't upset, screaming for players to be kicked off the team or coaches to be fired... i just had a realization.

There are no shortcuts, maybe if we were in another conference but Clemson is a program Dabo has running like a machine the way Saban has at Bama. That takes years of stability and recruiting.

The unique thing about Miami is that it won't take this program as long as Clemson to get to that level but we still have atleast 1 or 2 years before we can compete with them as equals.

The progress we made this season as a program far exceeds expectations in terms of being back in the national championship spotlight with such excitement and controversy.

But this fan base needs to chill tf out and allow this program to go through some ups and downs, adjustments need to be made and I'm sure there will be as time goes on. Regardless we are on the right track.
 
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Getting this recruiting class in will take away some of the sting. They've won enough this year to start getting the kids to stay home.
 
Watching the Clemson game was tough but I wasn't upset, screaming for players to be kicked off the team or coaches to be fired... i just had a realization.

There are no shortcuts, maybe if we were in another conference but Clemson is a program Dabo has running like a machine the way Saban has at Bama. That takes years of stability and recruiting.

The unique thing about Miami is that it won't take this program as long as Clemson to get to that level but we still have atleast 1 or 2 years before we can compete with them as equals.

The progress we made this season as a program far exceeds expectations in terms of being back in the national championship spotlight with such excitement and controversy.

But this fan base needs to chill tf out and allow this program to go through some ups and downs, adjustments need to be made and I'm sure there will be as time goes on. Regardless we are on the right track.

this. the loss was tough bu t the future is bright. I will add too that not one players should be leaving....even walton! come back, get a ship and get drafted higher
 
I've seen so many porsters in here the past few days that I haven't seen all season long. It's as if they've been just sitting there, waiting for this moment, so they could come in and tell us all, "I told you so." I've pretty much seen it all these past two days:

The N'Kosi Perry fan boys who thought he should have been given the keys after spending 27 minutes on Green Tree in a t-shirt and shorts.
The Mark Richt needs to hire an OC retards that can't tell the difference between a Read Option and an RPO.
The Manny Diaz runs a gimmick defense window lickers.

You name it. I've seen it. I even saw one person say DeeJay Dallas should have been the QB...a guy who's been rotated from DB to WR to KR to RB and hasn't earned consistent playing time at either position needs to be under center against the best defensive front in the NCAA...

We lost the last two games for one reason and one reason only: Malik Rosier could not hit wide open guys when it mattered most. And this is coming from a guy who's been very high on Rosey all season long because he stood in there and hit the big passes when the game was on the line. I don't know what happened to him. I've heard he's been battling injury and that his father is in poor health, so I really feel terrible for him. He's been a gamer for us this season and I hope he gets his issues sorted out before Wisconsin because I fully expect to see the same thing from them we saw from Pitt and Clemson. They will play man on the edges and force Rosier to complete big plays before they abandon the LOS.
 
Yep, no shortcuts. Need to stack several years of top-shelf recruiting classes to truly get on the level of the elite in today's game. The orange jerseys had top talent at every position, well into their 2nd teamers. As Richt said himself, we have some players who are on that level. It's just that we don't have enough of them.
 
I've seen so many porsters in here the past few days that I haven't seen all season long. It's as if they've been just sitting there, waiting for this moment, so they could come in and tell us all, "I told you so." I've pretty much seen it all these past two days:

The N'Kosi Perry fan boys who thought he should have been given the keys after spending 27 minutes on Green Tree in a t-shirt and shorts.
The Mark Richt needs to hire an OC retards that can't tell the difference between a Read Option and an RPO.
The Manny Diaz runs a gimmick defense window lickers.

You name it. I've seen it. I even saw one person say DeeJay Dallas should have been the QB...a guy who's been rotated from DB to WR to KR to RB and hasn't earned consistent playing time at either position needs to be under center against the best defensive front in the NCAA...

We lost the last two games for one reason and one reason only: Malik Rosier could not hit wide open guys when it mattered most. And this is coming from a guy who's been very high on Rosey all season long because he stood in there and hit the big passes when the game was on the line. I don't know what happened to him. I've heard he's been battling injury and that his father is in poor health, so I really feel terrible for him. He's been a gamer for us this season and I hope he gets his issues sorted out before Wisconsin because I fully expect to see the same thing from them we saw from Pitt and Clemson. They will play man on the edges and force Rosier to complete big plays before they abandon the LOS.

The reason some of haven't been here much of the season is that this board has been flooded with unrealistic appraisal of where the team really stands. It's the same reason I did not participate on Dolphin forums during the offseason. That team was almost guaranteed to regress in 2017 given the lousy stats and negative point differential in 2016, but somehow equating to one close victory after another. Unsustainable. I was not accustomed to flawed conventional wisdom in Las Vegas for 25 years. That crowd was sharp, and had to be. It is the opposite on fan forums like this. The meaningful stuff is denounced in favor of Happy Adjuster hoopla, and always in the same direction. On this site it is accompanied by administrators and moderators who are too close to the program. That may be fine in terms of occasional inside information but the greater tendency is for the summaries to be absurdly positive and rosy. The term national championship is thrown around with virtually no concept of the burden.

BTW, everyone understands the difference between read option and RPO. The clueless types have no idea that 32 rushes per game via either method is rank regulating ignorance.

It is beyond scary to read that Malik Rosier is our only problem. Anyone pushing that theme is not the least bit real world connected. Some guys here seem to think we're entitled to hit every semi-open receiver for a prancing touchdown.
 
Clemson didn't take any shortcuts either, some posters act like this just happened. For Pete's sake they even have a term for underachieving named after them, and got crushed 70-33, in a bowl game in '12. For us to be where were were at the end of the regular season less than two years removed from a humiliating defeat is a minor miracle. We're headed in a great direction, but it takes time.
 
I've seen so many porsters in here the past few days that I haven't seen all season long. It's as if they've been just sitting there, waiting for this moment, so they could come in and tell us all, "I told you so." I've pretty much seen it all these past two days:

The N'Kosi Perry fan boys who thought he should have been given the keys after spending 27 minutes on Green Tree in a t-shirt and shorts.
The Mark Richt needs to hire an OC retards that can't tell the difference between a Read Option and an RPO.
The Manny Diaz runs a gimmick defense window lickers.

You name it. I've seen it. I even saw one person say DeeJay Dallas should have been the QB...a guy who's been rotated from DB to WR to KR to RB and hasn't earned consistent playing time at either position needs to be under center against the best defensive front in the NCAA...

We lost the last two games for one reason and one reason only: Malik Rosier could not hit wide open guys when it mattered most. And this is coming from a guy who's been very high on Rosey all season long because he stood in there and hit the big passes when the game was on the line. I don't know what happened to him. I've heard he's been battling injury and that his father is in poor health, so I really feel terrible for him. He's been a gamer for us this season and I hope he gets his issues sorted out before Wisconsin because I fully expect to see the same thing from them we saw from Pitt and Clemson. They will play man on the edges and force Rosier to complete big plays before they abandon the LOS.

The reason some of haven't been here much of the season is that this board has been flooded with unrealistic appraisal of where the team really stands. It's the same reason I did not participate on Dolphin forums during the offseason. That team was almost guaranteed to regress in 2017 given the lousy stats and negative point differential in 2016, but somehow equating to one close victory after another. Unsustainable. I was not accustomed to flawed conventional wisdom in Las Vegas for 25 years. That crowd was sharp, and had to be. It is the opposite on fan forums like this. The meaningful stuff is denounced in favor of Happy Adjuster hoopla, and always in the same direction. On this site it is accompanied by administrators and moderators who are too close to the program. That may be fine in terms of occasional inside information but the greater tendency is for the summaries to be absurdly positive and rosy. The term national championship is thrown around with virtually no concept of the burden.

BTW, everyone understands the difference between read option and RPO. The clueless types have no idea that 32 rushes per game via either method is rank regulating ignorance.

It is beyond scary to read that Malik Rosier is our only problem. Anyone pushing that theme is not the least bit real world connected. Some guys here seem to think we're entitled to hit every semi-open receiver for a prancing touchdown.

Nobody ever expected Rosier to hit every, not semi-open, wide ***, running free behind the secondary with nobody between him and 6, open receiver. But you have to hit some of them or else teams will just do what they did and assume that you can't. You can't run the ball against any decent team who doesn't have to respect your ability to pass.

But the skinny of it is this, if you couldn't be bothered to celebrate success with us and enjoy the fact that we were doing quite well and far over-achieving for our depth and talent level, don't bother to come in and talk about how you knew all along that we weren't that good. Instead, do us all a huge favor and go **** yourself. Don't act like losing 1 regular season game, making it to the ACCCG against the #1 team in the country, and closing out the season with a top 5 recruiting class and a New Year's 6 bid at the Orange Bowl is some kind of ******* failure failure the chicken bones told you about before the season began.
 
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I've seen so many porsters in here the past few days that I haven't seen all season long. It's as if they've been just sitting there, waiting for this moment, so they could come in and tell us all, "I told you so." I've pretty much seen it all these past two days:

The N'Kosi Perry fan boys who thought he should have been given the keys after spending 27 minutes on Green Tree in a t-shirt and shorts.
The Mark Richt needs to hire an OC retards that can't tell the difference between a Read Option and an RPO.
The Manny Diaz runs a gimmick defense window lickers.

You name it. I've seen it. I even saw one person say DeeJay Dallas should have been the QB...a guy who's been rotated from DB to WR to KR to RB and hasn't earned consistent playing time at either position needs to be under center against the best defensive front in the NCAA...

We lost the last two games for one reason and one reason only: Malik Rosier could not hit wide open guys when it mattered most. And this is coming from a guy who's been very high on Rosey all season long because he stood in there and hit the big passes when the game was on the line. I don't know what happened to him. I've heard he's been battling injury and that his father is in poor health, so I really feel terrible for him. He's been a gamer for us this season and I hope he gets his issues sorted out before Wisconsin because I fully expect to see the same thing from them we saw from Pitt and Clemson. They will play man on the edges and force Rosier to complete big plays before they abandon the LOS.

The reason some of haven't been here much of the season is that this board has been flooded with unrealistic appraisal of where the team really stands. It's the same reason I did not participate on Dolphin forums during the offseason. That team was almost guaranteed to regress in 2017 given the lousy stats and negative point differential in 2016, but somehow equating to one close victory after another. Unsustainable. I was not accustomed to flawed conventional wisdom in Las Vegas for 25 years. That crowd was sharp, and had to be. It is the opposite on fan forums like this. The meaningful stuff is denounced in favor of Happy Adjuster hoopla, and always in the same direction. On this site it is accompanied by administrators and moderators who are too close to the program. That may be fine in terms of occasional inside information but the greater tendency is for the summaries to be absurdly positive and rosy. The term national championship is thrown around with virtually no concept of the burden.

BTW, everyone understands the difference between read option and RPO. The clueless types have no idea that 32 rushes per game via either method is rank regulating ignorance.

It is beyond scary to read that Malik Rosier is our only problem. Anyone pushing that theme is not the least bit real world connected. Some guys here seem to think we're entitled to hit every semi-open receiver for a prancing touchdown.

Nobody ever expected Rosier to hit every, not semi-open, wide ***, running free behind the secondary with nobody between him and 6, open receiver. But you have to hit some of them or else teams will just do what they did and assume that you can't. You can't run the ball against any decent team who doesn't have to respect your ability to pass.

But the skinny of it is this, if you couldn't be bothered to celebrate success with us and enjoy the fact that we were doing quite well and far over-achieving for our depth and talent level, don't bother to come in and talk about how you knew all along that we weren't that good. Instead, do us all a huge favor and go **** yourself. Don't act like losing 1 regular season game, making it to the ACCCG against the #1 team in the country, and closing out the season with a top 5 recruiting class and a New Year's 6 bid at the Orange Bowl is some kind of ****ing failure failure the chicken bones told you about before the season began.

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Clemson didn't take any shortcuts either, some posters act like this just happened. For Pete's sake they even have a term for underachieving named after them, and got crushed 70-33, in a bowl game in '12. For us to be where were were at the end of the regular season less than two years removed from a humiliating defeat is a minor miracle. We're headed in a great direction, but it takes time.

and after that they got pounded by the eventual national champ at home (FSU). now look at where they are?
 
Excellent OP. Dabo’s success has been 5 years in the making, with cards stacked. We are starting with a very thin deck at some positions, thanks to scholies taken away, selfish attritions and dumb players getting dismissed for selfish actions.
 
Saturday sucked but it was step one in the PROCESS:

1. Glad to be at the ACCCG and get beaten up by the bully (Clemson)
2. Next year, beat up the bully....no doubt Clemson again
3. 2019 and as long as CMR remains WE ARE THE BULLY
 
Interesting stat from the UGA game this Saturday...

31 Seniors

UGA had 31 Seniors (they have 3 grad transfers);
R-JR (1)
Jr (26)
R-So (11)

Clearly Richt left a lot of talent for Kirby (I didn’t include any Sophomores, even though Richt obviously recruited many of them as well).
 
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Interesting stat from the UGA game this Saturday...

31 Seniors

UGA had 31 Seniors (they have 3 grad transfers);
R-JR (1)
Jr (26)
R-So (11)

Clearly Richt left a lot of talent for Kirby (I didn’t include any Sophomores, even though Richt obviously recruited many of them as well).

WoW! 31 seniors and 27 draft eligible Juniors?!? We'll get to see what Kirby Smart is really made out of these next few seasons.
 
Interesting stat from the UGA game this Saturday...

31 Seniors

UGA had 31 Seniors (they have 3 grad transfers);
R-JR (1)
Jr (26)
R-So (11)

Clearly Richt left a lot of talent for Kirby (I didn’t include any Sophomores, even though Richt obviously recruited many of them as well).

WoW! 31 seniors and 27 draft eligible Juniors?!? We'll get to see what Kirby Smart is really made out of these next few seasons.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but R-So are draft eligible. If those numbers are correct, that’s 31 seniors and 38 draft eligible underclassmen. Those are crazy numbers. That’s about as many healthy scholarship players as we have right now.
 
Takes at least five years. We've barely gotten started, but what we saw this year is encouraging. To get a 10-3 or 11-2 season out of these kids (after Golden's mess) is a real plus.
 
Interesting stat from the UGA game this Saturday...

31 Seniors

UGA had 31 Seniors (they have 3 grad transfers);
R-JR (1)
Jr (26)
R-So (11)

Clearly Richt left a lot of talent for Kirby (I didn’t include any Sophomores, even though Richt obviously recruited many of them as well).

WoW! 31 seniors and 27 draft eligible Juniors?!? We'll get to see what Kirby Smart is really made out of these next few seasons.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but R-So are draft eligible. If those numbers are correct, that’s 31 seniors and 38 draft eligible underclassmen. Those are crazy numbers. That’s about as many healthy scholarship players as we have right now.

No. You're right. You're free to go after your 3rd year of eligibility. UGA is a Larry Coker you better win right ******* now situation.
 
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