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MEGA There’s Still Hope for the ACCCG/CFB Playoffs Mega Merge Thread

Calinative said:
Bama wins guarantees they will not rank lower than 9. That means 10 MUST come down to Notre Dame, BYU, and Miami. A BYU win guarantees them the 10 seed (well technically they could go higher but thats irrelevant or us) and in the CFP which means us and Notre Dame are out. However if Bama is guaranteed a top 9 seed due to winning AND BYU loses and thus likely drops AT LEAST 1 spot, it means Notre Dame and Miami are H2H comparison for 10 and 11 seed. Are they going to keep saying H2H doesn't matter when we are Literally ranked right next to eachother AND it is for a FINAL playoff spot. Top 10 seed are the playoffs given ACC/G5 conference champs will rank lower than 10 but still get the 11&12 Seed.

Ohio St, Indiana, and UGA are Imo locked into the three of the top 4 seeds. If Bama wins they likely jump to #3 and UGA slides to 4, and TTU drops out to 5... Unless they kill BYU again then MAYBE they are at 3 and Bama rises to 4 and UGA is at 5. But I think that it is unlikely UGA which ENTERED Conf Champ game with a Bye will LOSE that bye for losing to Bama. Would probably have to be blowout. And if there is 1 fact it is that the SEC and B1G champ are getting a 1st round Bye. Especially since Bama finished 1st in the SEC regular season standings technically.

So in total if Bama beats UGA it WILL be:
1. Winner of Ohio St vs Indiana
2. Loser of Ohio St vs Indiana
3. Alabama
4. UGA (unless blowout loss, then TTU could jump them)
5. Texas Tech
6. Oregon ...
7. Ole Miss
8. A&M
9. Oklahoma
10. BYU IF THEY WIN otherwise a Choice between MIAMI OR NOTRE DAME
11. UVA if they Beat Duke, otherwise Winner of Tulane vs North Texas
12. JMU IF Duke beats UVA, otherwise Winner of Tulane vs North Texas.
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I don’t think Yurachek said H2H will come into play when teams are “back to back” for no reason. JD Pickell (?) nailed it when he said the committee expected us to flop when it stuck us back at 18. Now they are trying to fix their mistake. They can’t ignore head to head for 10-11 unless they want to see teams all over cfb start canceling OOC games and scheduling cupcakes from now on (which long term will hurt cfb profits far more than the money they would lose from not having ND in the playoffs one time). Cfb is a business. Ignoring H2H in the final bcs rankings simply isnt going to be good for business in the long run.
 
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Texas was by far the worst Road team of any Top 15 team in CFB this year.

They had 5 Road games this year. They were:

Game 1 AT ohio State loss
Game 5 AT Florida Loss and wasn't close
Game 7 AT Kentucky and it was an OT win
Game 8 AT Miss St and it was an OT Win
Game 10 AT UGA and it was a blowout loss

That is absolutely ******* DOG****.
 
fincane said:
No one believes (even the people backing us in the ND conversation) that a participant in the SEC title game is gonna get knocked out of the playoff. So hope Bama wins so as not to give the clowns on the committee any reason to separate us from Notre Dame in the rankings
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Ahhh okay; so trying to get us back to back with ND in a 10-11 scenario. Can’t believe i have to spend another weekend rooting for other teams. Hopefully TT smokes em by more than the last time


Here We Go Again GIF
 
CaneMutiny06 said:
The logic is that the committee would likely only drop Bama one spot if they lose, swapping places with ND.

This would keep ND 2 spots ahead of Miami, thereby giving the committee “buffer” to not consider the H2H win Miami had over ND.
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Given how average Bama looked against Auburn, i see why all the media writers are now latching onto this theory. There seems to be a bit of hope then.
 
Calinative said:
Bama wins guarantees they will not rank lower than 9. That means 10 MUST come down to Notre Dame, BYU, and Miami. A BYU win guarantees them the 10 seed (well technically they could go higher but thats irrelevant or us) and in the CFP which means us and Notre Dame are out. However if Bama is guaranteed a top 9 seed due to winning AND BYU loses and thus likely drops AT LEAST 1 spot, it means Notre Dame and Miami are H2H comparison for 10 and 11 seed. Are they going to keep saying H2H doesn't matter when we are Literally ranked right next to eachother AND it is for a FINAL playoff spot. Top 10 seed are the playoffs given ACC/G5 conference champs will rank lower than 10 but still get the 11&12 Seed.

Ohio St, Indiana, and UGA are Imo locked into the three of the top 4 seeds. If Bama wins they likely jump to #3 and UGA slides to 4, and TTU drops out to 5... Unless they kill BYU again then MAYBE they are at 3 and Bama rises to 4 and UGA is at 5. But I think that it is unlikely UGA which ENTERED Conf Champ game with a Bye will LOSE that bye for losing to Bama. Would probably have to be blowout. And if there is 1 fact it is that the SEC and B1G champ are getting a 1st round Bye. Especially since Bama finished 1st in the SEC regular season standings technically.

So in total if Bama beats UGA it WILL be:
1. Winner of Ohio St vs Indiana
2. Loser of Ohio St vs Indiana
3. Alabama
4. UGA (unless blowout loss, then TTU could jump them)
5. Texas Tech
6. Oregon ...
7. Ole Miss
8. A&M
9. Oklahoma
10. BYU IF THEY WIN otherwise a Choice between MIAMI OR NOTRE DAME
11. UVA if they Beat Duke, otherwise Winner of Tulane vs North Texas
12. JMU IF Duke beats UVA, otherwise Winner of Tulane vs North Texas.
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What a nightmare scenario. Appreciate the write out. As i was thinking about it, I’m unsure which games are most important for us after the BYU loss.

I would like to believe we can get in even if UVA wins but I’m just not sure. However, regardless of the ACC winner, I think we can benefit from North Texas and JMU winning.

North Texas lost to USF; who we beat; JMU lost to Louisville; who we lost to as well. If Duke and Tulane both win, the argument is easier and it’s a pile-on for how bad the ACC is. If Tulane loses, more attention can be drawn to the fact that JMU is getting less punished for their Louisville loss then Miami is; and Miami isn’t getting respected for another common opponent victory (FSU/Bama; USF/N. Texas).

Doubt the committee thinks this deep into it but can’t hurt.
 
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For what it's worth I have one friend of 40 years, who is an insider from the agent side and he said that he wasn't sure we're getting in, but if BYU loses, we're probably in.

And, this is a guy that doesn't like Miami although he's made money repping some of our players. He'd be happy to tell me that we're out and he couldn't say it. He also thinks we lose to ND in a matchup, to which I told him he was wrong and why. He's not great at picking crucial games, but he is great at evaluating talent and has the inside scoop on most things (his connection...cough...Sexton...cough informed him in October that Lane was going to LSU). He also had an interesting take on Beck's draft prospects, but that's for another time...

Take it for what it's worth, but coming from a Miami hater like my friend, I was a little encouraged. We just need Texas Tech to do their job and we're probably (fingers crossed knocking on wood) in.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
I don’t think Yurachek said H2H will come into play when teams are “back to back” for no reason. JD Pickell (?) nailed it when he said the committee expected us to flop when it stuck us back at 18. Now they are trying to fix their mistake. They can’t ignore head to head for 10-11 unless they want to see teams all over cfb start canceling OOC games and scheduling cupcakes from now on (which long term will hurt cfb profits far more than the money they would lose from not having ND in the playoffs one time). Cfb is a business. Ignoring H2H in the final bcs rankings simply isnt going to be good for business in the long run.
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Not disagreeing with your points, but if CFP is really looking at this as a business, ESPN should be all over the Committee to get us in.

Just look at the 1st round games proposed. Some of them will be over at half, with no one watching, but the fans of the winning team,
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
I don’t think Yurachek said H2H will come into play when teams are “back to back” for no reason. JD Pickell (?) nailed it when he said the committee expected us to flop when it stuck us back at 18. Now they are trying to fix their mistake. They can’t ignore head to head for 10-11 unless they want to see teams all over cfb start canceling OOC games and scheduling cupcakes from now on (which long term will hurt cfb profits far more than the money they would lose from not having ND in the playoffs one time). Cfb is a business. Ignoring H2H in the final bcs rankings simply isnt going to be good for business in the long run.
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The committee was very intentional with what they did this week.

Their main objectives were to appease the SEC and set up a scenario where ND gets in.

If we think about the fact that ND, BYU, and Miami are splitting hairs when looking at resumes (i believe he said that), the only reason they have BYU as a buffer is to keep Miami down.

BYU is in a win and your in scenario. It doesnt matter if they are ranked 11, 15, or 100. If they win theyre in. So why keep them in between ND and Miami right now? Its simply to avoid the H2H.

Why delay it if its going to ultimately come down to it?

Enter Bama losing. They've created out of thin air a situation where Bama and BYU lose, and Miami gets left out for ND bc their is the fake buffer.

The ND/Miami swap has no reason to have have not already happened. They have been waiting this whole time to try and force a buffer to avoid the H2H.

We need it to go perfectly for us, BYU loss, Bama win and then MAYBE they look at the H2H (i dont put anything past them at this point).
 
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Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
The committee was very intentional with what they did this week.

Their main objectives were to appease the SEC and set up a scenario where ND gets in.

If we think about the fact that ND, BYU, and Miami are splitting hairs when looking at resumes (i believe he said that), the only reason they have BYU as a buffer is to keep Miami down.

BYU is in a win and your in scenario. It doesnt matter if they are ranked 11, 15, or 100. If they win theyre in. So why keep them in between ND and Miami right now? Its simply to avoid the H2H.

Why delay it if its going to ultimately come down to it?

Enter Bama losing. They've created out of thin air a situation where Bama and BYU lose, and Miami gets left out for ND bc their is the fake buffer.

The ND/Miami swap has no reason to have have not already happened. They have been waiting this whole time to try and force a buffer to avoid the H2H.

We need it to go perfectly for us, BYU loss, Bama win and then MAYBE they look at the H2H (i dont put anything past them at this point).
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I hope one of the media talking heads interviews Yurachek and asks him point blank if this is why he switched Bama and ND.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
I hope one of the media talking heads interviews Yurachek and asks him point blank if this is why he switched Bama and ND.
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That’s the key. We need to publicly bang on the move from
“they need to be the the same pod” in order to debate h2h to some new need for them to be next to one another. We have to protect against the likely Bama one-spot slide.
 
Handsome Squidbum said:
I hope one of the media talking heads interviews Yurachek and asks him point blank if this is why he switched Bama and ND.
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josh pate sat around for minutes defending bama as if theyre some ridiculous stud team. even advocated for a 2 loss team who struggled the entire year esp on offense to deserve a bye if they win the SEC. his reason? bc the SEC and b10 are better (with no real evidence provided other than his words)
 
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