The Winning Formula?

[RVACane]

Besides the $5+ million for the best head coaches....

This is where the REAL money is spent-- on the coordinators....

The HC is the CEO of the team-- but the coaches who actually make the difference in whether players are developed, know the game plan, and can execute are the Assistants and Coordinators.

IF you start here and open the checkbook-- the recruits will come naturally.....

Recruits and their families look at it this way: "If a school is willing to spend big money on facilities and coaches, that's where I want to take my 4/5 star talent".....

Miami will never be relevant again until it steps up to spending SEC kind of money:

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This list is old. The numbers are now probably even higher.

 

[RVACane]

Tell me about the Coastal. I want to know which coordinator made as much as Enos.

Which coordinators in the Coastal make more than $1MM?

This is also true. Just like the recruiting problems should be irrelevant as it relates to the Coastal. We have the talent to win our crappy Division each year and the failure to do so is on the coaching.

Not being able to compete with the top teams shouldn’t even be the discussion right now. We’re not competing with the mid tier teams on the field.

 

[UMFarArcher]

As long as the SEC can pay recruits with impugnity while the NCAA lies in wait for Miami to sneeze wrong so they drop the death penalty on us we could have Saban at the helm, Urban as OC and Swinney as DC this thing ain't gon change. That is unless the bags are mitigated by the best talent evaluator and developer. But y'all don't want him here.

I don't exactly agree -

Everyone knows about bags. Yeah, lots of teams have bags.

But you'll note one thing - usually, no kid would want to spend three or four years in those **itholes if the weren't getting paid. No way.

Kids like winners - they like to win - and they like to have fun - and they actually like a staff that's hard on them.

UM - with top coaches - hard coaches - could draw top players from around the nation - without bags - to play and live in Coral Gables and the Miami area. Where lots of folks from all over the country come - for vacation. Fun.

But you can't be cheap-assed losers - with half-assed coaches - and always fighting over other's leftovers - and be attractive. Let's see. Norman, Oklahoma - or Coral Gables - all other things being equal.

Clemson - or Coral Gables - all other things being equal? Auburn? Alabama?

Great coaches win. Players love to win - that's why they play the game! They'll forego the bags if it means they have to live in these other backward-assed places - if they can win and get great coaching - at a smaller, private school - in Coral Gables.

 

[Consigliere]

This is also true. Just like the recruiting problems should be irrelevant as it relates to the Coastal. We have the talent to win our crappy Division each year and the failure to do so is on the coaching.

Not being able to compete with the top teams shouldn’t even be the discussion right now. We’re not competing with the mid tier teams on the field.

I still want an answer to my question. Does anyone even want an HC on another Coastal team? Does anyone want one of these Coastal coordinators? I am not saying over what we have, I am asking if we started from scratch, who wants another HC in the Coastal?


We can’t compete with the mental midgets in the Coastal and it is strictly because of our corching. Porsters are concerned with money and bullchit mom and pop stuff as it relates to Clemson/Bama etc.

Let me know about the dipchits in the Coastal.

 

[RVACane]

I still want an answer to my question. Does anyone even want an HC on another Coastal team? Does anyone want one of these Coastal coordinators? I am not saying over what we have, I am asking if we started from scratch, who wants another HC in the Coastal?


We can’t compete with the mental midgets in the Coastal and it is strictly because of our corching. Porsters are concerned with money and bullchit mom and pop stuff as it relates to Clemson/Bama etc.

Let me know about the dipchits in the Coastal.

No argument here dude. I wouldn’t take any of them. I don’t even want Cutcliffe though he’d win at Miami in this division.

 

[Consigliere]

No argument here dude. I wouldn’t take any of them. I don’t even want Cutcliffe though he’d win at Miami in this division.

And the goal is not to simply win the Coastal. I am only pointing out how atrocious this conference is and has been.

 

[RVACane]

And the goal is not to simply win the Coastal. I am only pointing out how atrocious this conference is and has been.

I get that. That’s why all of this talk about recruiting elite is not even relevant when we can’t win the worst Division with who we have compared to the rest of the teams.

 

[sebastian91]

Perhaps Miami should implode the shiny new IPF, practice in the rain again, and stop trying to compete with state-subsidized mega-universities and their 50 gazillion deep-pocketed alums for 4 and 5 star primadonnas and the next hot coaching name. Miami can't (and shouldn't) play the bag game, but they can bring in talented players (and coaches) with chips on their shoulder that the mega-programs don't want and develop them into a team that competes for and wins national championships. Howard understood this. No one at Miami in the last 20 years has understood this. Having a realistic understanding of what the program is capable of is the first step to turning this thing around. Building IPF's and trying to outspend state schools for players and coaches is a fool's game.

 

[Canes_]

A "CEO" type of HC (dependent on elite coordinators) is a formula that I do not think is sustainable at Miami because the moment there is any success, you'll have SEC program looking to double the salary of their target coach. It would produce imo a degree of turnover that I don't think would have long-term staying power. It works at LSU, Clemson, etc. because those programs operate without any financial restrictions. The DC at LSU is making close to $2MM and the co-OC will be approaching that figure after the season. Venables and the Clemson co-OC's are making more than a lot of P5 HC's....and we haven't even gotten to the position coaches, I am sure the LSU DB coach has a salary comparable to DC's.

The bulk of Miami's recent HC hires have been uninspiring defensive guys with average at best production as coordinators; Shannon was the exception, thanks in large part to a ridiculous amount of defensive talent at the time. Given the level and type of talent South Florida produces (DB, LB, DE) and the competition in the conference, finding coordinators to field a solid defense would be a fairly easy task.

So the winning formula for Miami is finding a HC with a successful offensive background - one that has a history of producing good offenses and developing quarterbacks. When you look at similar programs, OU (Riley), UF (UM), FSU (Jimbo), Oregon (Chip), Auburn (Malzahn), Washington (Petersen) etc. they've had their best runs with offensive guys who had their own systems. For all the talent (South) Florida produces, if there is a weakness it's QB and OL. You need a HC who can maneuver through that with a scheme that can maximize the talent brought in every year regardless of who the coordinator is. CFB is also moving away from defense, all the teams in the playoffs this year had top 5 offenses. When the talent is comparable, the offenses are routinely winning out now. Last night, Clemson with their #1 defense gave up 500 yards and was fortunate Ohio State made a few mistakes in the red zone.

 

[UMFarArcher]

A top HC, with a top DC, with a top OC - do not "COST" a university - a single penny.

They win, and like a top salesman - they bring in lots more revenue than their salaries - and provide a net gain well above what they receive.

How do companies manage to pay top sales folks millions per year? Because they make their own salaries, and lots more above that - for the company. More revenue from multiple sources - more students - it's self-sustaining.

Half-assing around like we've done since Butch - is financially - irresponsible. Detrimental.

Wise decisions create additional net wealth, increased public reputation, and really touts the UM brand. What would be called "intangible assets."

If UM is being discussed - and watched - on Saturdays in September, October, November, December, and January - that's publicity worth untold millions of dollars - that the University couldn't possibly BUY!

I'm just glad as **** I didn't get my Accounting/Finance degree from UM - because UM doesn't understand the most basic elements of Finance.

Probably two or three times per year for many years - I've restated this message again and again, and again. This is just one I found from 2019 - I have limited time . . .

Hoping someone with some good sense could understand this basic principle - and fund our program.

You've heard me say that Saban doesn't cost the University of Alabama a single dime. NO. He earns everything he's paid - and pays for a whole lot more!

That a winning top football program brings more publicity than can be bought.

Sounds like we're about to turn the page and start to treat this big business - like the big business it really is!

Mario better leave friends behind and hire the very best coordinators in the nation.

He better come down a bit hard on the front end with discipline and demands - he can always back off - but you don't go in a bit soft and try to torque things down later - that's a big mistake.