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The truth about Jarren Williams...

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LuCane said:
15/34 44% for 215 yards 1 TD 0 INT, in his first road start (even after 3 previous games) behind an OL with multiple All-Americans.
Went on to throw for 58% completion rate, 86 career touchdowns vs 26 INTs.














Guy's name was Ken Dorsey.
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I was literally about to post the same thing.

The fact is, there's a long way to go for Williams. He was not good on Saturday night. But there were glimpses of a pretty good QB. There's honestly no point anointing him right now nor ripping him. It was his first game, and he was average, at best, overall. But his story is nowhere near written. If he continues to improve as most young QBs do, there's plenty of physical ability there to turn this kid into a good player.

Take solace in the fact that, even playing an average game, he still probably played the best game by a QB here since mid-2017. Not a horrible start. Let's get UNC, then he's got 2 games to really get comfortable, at home, vs inferior opponents. Then a bye week. We can start to really project what we have once we get to VT, UVA, GT, Pitt, and FSU.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
I was literally about to post the same thing.

The fact is, there's a long way to go for Williams. He was not good on Saturday night. But there were glimpses of a pretty good QB. There's honestly no point anointing him right now nor ripping him. It was his first game, and he was average, at best, overall. But his story is nowhere near written. If he continues to improve as most young QBs do, there's plenty of physical ability there to turn this kid into a good player.

Take solace in the fact that, even playing an average game, he still probably played the best game by a QB here since mid-2017. Not a horrible start. Let's get UNC, then he's got 2 games to really get comfortable, at home, vs inferior opponents. Then a bye week. We can start to really project what we have once we get to VT, UVA, GT, Pitt, and FSU.
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No. Make your conclusion on him right now. And, it's a for or against. And, stick with it until eternity. #canesinsight2019
 
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Who here is mad at this post and thought Kyle Wright looked good after his first road start?

Don't be shy now....
 
Wow, the kid stays here and competes as he got shafted by the Richt family last year. He makes his mind up that he is going to stay and wins the QB job. He plays well enough to win where some passes were dropped. Has two new freshmen tackles protecting him along with a different OC from last year. The pressure on him was enormous the entire night but he didn't have a turnover. THE KID HAS THE GOODS TO BE A GREAT UM QB!
 
Arileus said:
Stats
- 11 of 20 completed passes were behind the line of scrimmage (Yes 20, espn box score has it wrong at 19).
- 6 of the other 9 passes were for 10yds or under (3,3,5,6,10,10). *This is not counting yac, just the throw and catch
- 19 of 20 passes were to wide open receivers.

These are throws that any Power 5 starting qb should be able to make.

Missed Opportunites
- A low throw to Jeff Thomas at 3:20 left in the 2nd quarter cost a TD. If the ball is on point and hits JT in stride then its a TD. Notice the one safety has his body turned towards the slot and the other bites on KJ and its open field behind him.

- A throw behind DJ Dallas cost a TD. If the ball is on target then the DL doesn't touch DJ and all other defenders are being blocked. Kurt comments on it as well during the replay.

- Potential TD is missed due to not keeping eyes on Dj Dallas with the sack at 3:34 in the 3rd quarter. There was pressure but there was also an opportunity as DJ has steps on his defender downfield.

- Big plays squandered by inaccuracy and not seeing a wide open target.

- Jaren had 4 chances at drives on the gator side of the field in the last half of the 4th quarter and did not score on any of them.

Other
- At least five sacks were Jarens fault. Dan enos stated this in a post game interview.
- Decision making lacked in areas like throwing the ball away, tucking and running, not tucking and running, pocket presence and posture among others. This was also commented on by Enos.
- Jaren was not the same QB as they saw in practice. This was another comment made by Dan Enos.

Thoughts
- This is UM. National championships are the bar. This was one of manny's first statements as head coach. Its wins or nothing here. This was stated after the loss by Manny, DJ, and Jaren as well. There were many problems in the game that cost us a win. However, if any player has a performance like this during a game (not practice) and shows so many flaws in things that are not quick fixes then they need to be re-evaluated at minimum and possibly pulled since this may be who they are as a player. Again, this is UM and we dont tolerate losses, especially like this to Florida. If you are playing for the Miami Hurricanes then it doesn't matter if it's your first start or 40th, we expect excellence , this was also a statement made by Enos. We will not see a defense like this until clemson so do we wait until then to see if Jaren can change, or do we give some one else a shot that might not be lacking in these categories.
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the truth hurts...most on here need to grow up anyway
 
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Arileus said:
Stats
- 11 of 20 completed passes were behind the line of scrimmage (Yes 20, espn box score has it wrong at 19).
- 6 of the other 9 passes were for 10yds or under (3,3,5,6,10,10). *This is not counting yac, just the throw and catch
- 19 of 20 passes were to wide open receivers.

These are throws that any Power 5 starting qb should be able to make.

Missed Opportunites
- A low throw to Jeff Thomas at 3:20 left in the 2nd quarter cost a TD. If the ball is on point and hits JT in stride then its a TD. Notice the one safety has his body turned towards the slot and the other bites on KJ and its open field behind him.

- A throw behind DJ Dallas cost a TD. If the ball is on target then the DL doesn't touch DJ and all other defenders are being blocked. Kurt comments on it as well during the replay.

- Potential TD is missed due to not keeping eyes on Dj Dallas with the sack at 3:34 in the 3rd quarter. There was pressure but there was also an opportunity as DJ has steps on his defender downfield.

- Big plays squandered by inaccuracy and not seeing a wide open target.

- Jaren had 4 chances at drives on the gator side of the field in the last half of the 4th quarter and did not score on any of them.

Other
- At least five sacks were Jarens fault. Dan enos stated this in a post game interview.
- Decision making lacked in areas like throwing the ball away, tucking and running, not tucking and running, pocket presence and posture among others. This was also commented on by Enos.
- Jaren was not the same QB as they saw in practice. This was another comment made by Dan Enos.

Thoughts
- This is UM. National championships are the bar. This was one of manny's first statements as head coach. Its wins or nothing here. This was stated after the loss by Manny, DJ, and Jaren as well. There were many problems in the game that cost us a win. However, if any player has a performance like this during a game (not practice) and shows so many flaws in things that are not quick fixes then they need to be re-evaluated at minimum and possibly pulled since this may be who they are as a player. Again, this is UM and we dont tolerate losses, especially like this to Florida. If you are playing for the Miami Hurricanes then it doesn't matter if it's your first start or 40th, we expect excellence , this was also a statement made by Enos. We will not see a defense like this until clemson so do we wait until then to see if Jaren can change, or do we give some one else a shot that might not be lacking in these categories.
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Great post!!!

I need to see one more game but that UF game almost did it for me with regard to Jarren.

If he doesn’t rid himself of the BS he did against UF in two weeks at UNC then he’s another Steven Morris, brad kayaa = nothing special at all.
 
Insanecane said:
The Jarren Williams suckfest needs to chill. He did some good things, but made a ton of mistakes to go along with them. I graded him out with a C-. He needs to stop playing scared and safe and take some chances down the field or else defenses will sit on the short stuff playing cover 0 like the Gaytes did in the 2nd half.
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That’s exactly how he played...scared.

Dropping that snap on the last play of the game just does something to me.
 
Spent all that time watching and re-watching the game and then writing this post OP. FFS.

Our coaching staff has watched the QBs for MONTHS. He is CLEARLY the best option.

This place is such a cess pool of idiocy and negativity and yet I am still surprised each day I log on.
 
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Tee3000 said:
Great post!!!

I need to see one more game but that UF game almost did it for me with regard to Jarren.

If he doesn’t rid himself of the BS he did against UF in two weeks at UNC then he’s another Steven Morris, brad kayaa = nothing special at all.
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nickster said:
Wow, the kid stays here and competes as he got shafted by the Richt family last year. He makes his mind up that he is going to stay and wins the QB job. He plays well enough to win where some passes were dropped. Has two new freshmen tackles protecting him along with a different OC from last year. The pressure on him was enormous the entire night but he didn't have a turnover. THE KID HAS THE GOODS TO BE A GREAT UM QB!
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Yeah. Our fan base is dumb. JW should be celebrated.
 
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NateDogg said:
Spent all that time watching and re-watching the game and then writing this post OP. FFS.

Our coaching staff has watched the QBs for MONTHS. He is CLEARLY the best option.

This place is such a cess pool of idiocy and negativity and yet I am still surprised each day I log on.
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He isn’t “clearly” anything.. he just won a close competition. A competition that technically is still ongoing, he still could lose his job especially if he has too many performances like the first game.

I am rooting for Jarren Williams but I’m definitely not some blind cheerleader... Enos wants his QBs to live up expectations and I do too. Unlike with Kaaya,I don’t have to settle we got options.
 
Tee3000 said:
Great post!!!

I need to see one more game but that UF game almost did it for me with regard to Jarren.

If he doesn’t rid himself of the BS he did against UF in two weeks at UNC then he’s another Steven Morris, brad kayaa = nothing special at all.
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Yeah, we shouldn't expect a freshman QB getting his first ever real game experience against a very good, aggressive defense, with a porous offensive line, in primetime, against a hated rival, to struggle at all.
 
Funny how some UM fans have such over-critical, irrational views of the players. I know UF, FSU, and an OSU fan all who came away from that game saying they were impressed with Williams given it was his first game, and that he looks like he's going to be a really good one for us very soon.

Then we have the UM fans......
 
MrMachete said:
Yeah. Our fan base is dumb. JW should be celebrated.
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Lol This board has a mentality of a fan base that hasn’t won anything in 15+ years. He was celebrated for winning a tough qB competition and the rest should be based on results on the field. Y’all are trying to paint this narrative like we should all feel sorry for Jarren “Bc it’s his first year, or the oline is young”... nobody’s expecting to win the ACC this season but we should be able to expect our QB to be poised enough to recognize a running play clock and throw for more than 150 yards and 1 TD in a game.
 
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