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The True sign of being " back"....

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It is tough to accumulate chips at QB, I get it. Kids want to play and if they aren't, they transfer. Which is exactly why you need to get those chips if you can, for the inevitable erosion.

And yeah, I recall Sands. For those supporting the idea that we can reasonably expect to win a NC with Rosier and cite to Dorsey, AGAIN I say- Absurd! Dorsey was not a second choice/ backup plan guy who blew up. He was THE choice. I get that he wasn't an athletic freak, but he is the guy we targeted and were correct in that evaluation.

I was pointing out that it was another Golden eff up in not recruiting QB's in an intelligent , thought out manner. And pointing out how Richt has ( seemingly) done that by recruiting what appear to be 2 real QB's and , possibly, another this year.

The point of the post is that QB is the hardest position to " hide" a weak link.
 
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Some teams seem to have no problem tho.. saban played a freshman last year and got a 5 star to come back him up, urban won a ship with his third string a couple years back and his main qb went down last week and back up came to keep offense moving..

Uga has like three 5 stars in a row, some people get results, some people make excuses
 
Hurracanes said:
The only sign that showcases us being back are National Championships.
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Preach.

All the hype and winning the ACC is important, and it's great for recruiting, for ratings, for making sure the fans are fired up, all of that.

But... I grew up watching the Canes dominate in the 90's and then witnessed the greatest college teams of all time in 2001 and 2002, so "BEING BACK," at least to me, means only one thing: National titles.
 
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U2Cane said:
Is when we get real depth at QB.

I wont beat to death the Rosier analysis from the Pitt game but it is safe to say that he would be the # 2 QB at a perennial top 10 program. An Alabama, Ohio State, etc. Can we agree on that? A good, solid, # 2 " caretaker" type of QB?

Our precarious QB situation came into full focus when we put in our # 2 at Pitt( a decision I have ZERO problems with)and that player was Shirreffs. No one could argue he is a legit # 2 at a perennial top 10 program, right? Can we agree he is at best a # 3, emergency, "don't burn the redshirt on the true freshman so put this guy in" type of QB at a top 10 program?

Essentially, this year we are 10-1, possibly ACC champs, possibly playoff bound, with a QB roster of a # 2 playing as the #1 and the # 3( or lower) playing as the # 2. As bad as Rosier has played at times this year could anyone imagine where we'd be with him out injured? Inconceivable to quote " The Princess Bride".

So while we have made huge strides everywhere in the program( defense especially) the last hurdle is the most vital- QB.

We will be entirely " back" when we have real stars( not just 3 stars and 2 stars) competing for the QB spot, with the # 2 being a legit potential starter and not a JAG.

The full measure of the Golden massacre of this program is seen in our QB situation. Hopefully, with Weldon and Perry we can start to accumulate quality players at the most important position in the game. Because we need it.
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Kosar, Testaverde, Kelly, Richt

on one team..
 
U2Cane said:
It is tough to accumulate chips at QB, I get it. Kids want to play and if they aren't, they transfer. Which is exactly why you need to get those chips if you can, for the inevitable erosion.

And yeah, I recall Sands. For those supporting the idea that we can reasonably expect to win a NC with Rosier and cite to Dorsey, AGAIN I say- Absurd! Dorsey was not a second choice/ backup plan guy who blew up. He was THE choice. I get that he wasn't an athletic freak, but he is the guy we targeted and were correct in that evaluation.

I was pointing out that it was another Golden eff up in not recruiting QB's in an intelligent , thought out manner. And pointing out how Richt has ( seemingly) done that by recruiting what appear to be 2 real QB's and , possibly, another this year.

The point of the post is that QB is the hardest position to " hide" a weak link.
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Dorsey started as a TRUE FRESHMAN and set the all time UM record for a freshman with most yards in a game..
 
Texxcane said:
I started a post 3 weeks ago along these lines but blew it off for fear of the beating I would take for it here. My title was gonna be Rosier is the weak link, and 3 weeks ago you could see what I mean, I knew it going into the year but saw it live v Notre same. Anyway OP is right, if you go back and check every starting QB we have had from Jim Kelley all the way to Craig Erickson ???? has been drafted and drafted pretty high. Then we struck out one after the other, makes me wonder what the **** is going on. I would think QB's would want to come here, it was for years pretty much a guarantee to the league. **** Bama with all those rings can't field a descent QB, they just put a running back in shotgun and roll behind that line, rarely ask him to throw to win a game. I know I mentioned pro style yesterday and nearly got banned lol, give me a big, slow *** guy that will stand in the pocket and make the delivery, look at the guys that are winning super bowls. Big Ben. E Rogers, Tom, M Ryan, Drew Breez, Rivers......these guys are not gonna beat you with their feet but with their arm and their brain. We can he the players to run pro style, we always have, and I figured that's what Richt was gonna do, he was here he saw it first hand and then watched it from FSUs sideline. We may be the ONLY team that can gather that kind of talent, well maybe USC, but that's what I want to get back to. I love the mindset Manny is going after, its our m.o. own the los and have an all out race to the ball, create havoc. We just need to get back to using our SoFlo athletes the way we should, use their skill sets. As far as being back ??? I been telling everybody around here all year we are a QB and a good RB short from really being back, the rest will take care of itself.....Tex
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did not mean to down vote, great post
 
Winning championships is when we're back.

We haven't always had depth even on championship teams.

And who was Dorsey's backup in '01 and '02. Crudup? Can't remember, actually. But I do remember that if Dorsey went down, we were done.

And in Erickson's final years as HC, we had no one on the OL. We had a TE playing OL for awhile - Etheridge, I think.

Championships are when we're back.

U2Cane said:
Is when we get real depth at QB.

I wont beat to death the Rosier analysis from the Pitt game but it is safe to say that he would be the # 2 QB at a perennial top 10 program. An Alabama, Ohio State, etc. Can we agree on that? A good, solid, # 2 " caretaker" type of QB?

Our precarious QB situation came into full focus when we put in our # 2 at Pitt( a decision I have ZERO problems with)and that player was Shirreffs. No one could argue he is a legit # 2 at a perennial top 10 program, right? Can we agree he is at best a # 3, emergency, "don't burn the redshirt on the true freshman so put this guy in" type of QB at a top 10 program?

Essentially, this year we are 10-1, possibly ACC champs, possibly playoff bound, with a QB roster of a # 2 playing as the #1 and the # 3( or lower) playing as the # 2. As bad as Rosier has played at times this year could anyone imagine where we'd be with him out injured? Inconceivable to quote " The Princess Bride".

So while we have made huge strides everywhere in the program( defense especially) the last hurdle is the most vital- QB.

We will be entirely " back" when we have real stars( not just 3 stars and 2 stars) competing for the QB spot, with the # 2 being a legit potential starter and not a JAG.

The full measure of the Golden massacre of this program is seen in our QB situation. Hopefully, with Weldon and Perry we can start to accumulate quality players at the most important position in the game. Because we need it.
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