The transfer Portal and Graduation

[AtlAtty]

One issue I have not seen discussed anywhere is the negative impact the transfer portal will likely have on many kids ability to obtain a college degree.

First, as a general rule when a student transfers from college A to college B, the student will lose some credits.

Second, imagine the first point happening 2-3 times. How many credits will many of these kids have at the end of their 3rd year of college if they have already transferred a few times (Darrell Jackson as an example)?

Third, many kids will not receive any scholarship from the transfer portal. I have read estimates as high as 40%. Which means 40% of kids will leave a college where they had a full scholarship and not have a scholarship at the conclusion of the portal process.

3% of college football players will ever play in the NFL. The obvious math then is that 97% need to obtain a degree or they will have often wasted that opportunity. I am confident the vast majority will not return later in life to college. So is the portal good or bad for the 97% that need to obtain a degree? The verdict won’t arrive for another 4-5 years but I don’t like the direction this is going.

 

[407cane]

I'm generally anti-college as I think very few people actually benefit from a degree. The student loan epidemic also is a major issue for young people in our country.

I'm worried about student debt for these kids. Those that enter the portal with nowhere to land will end up at a hometown university or walking on somwehere and they'll inevitably end up with thousands in student debt based on mis guided direction of entering the portal.

 

[Go Canes!!]

What's happening in the portal and NIL in it's current state is nothing short of disastrous. And it's only gonna get worse.

 

[AtlAtty]

I'm generally anti-college as I think very few people actually benefit from a degree. The student loan epidemic also is a major issue for young people in our country.

I'm worried about student debt for these kids. Those that enter the portal with nowhere to land will end up at a hometown university or walking on somwehere and they'll inevitably end up with thousands in student debt based on mis guided direction of entering the portal.

Correct. We know that the majority of college football players can’t afford to pay for college. And I concur 100% on student debt problems.

 

[AtlAtty]

What's happening in the portal and NIL in it's current state is nothing short of disastrous. And it's only gonna get worse.

Another example of the disaster that is the NC2A. Even when they try to help kids they ***** it up.

 

[Applecane]

One issue I have not seen discussed anywhere is the negative impact the transfer portal will likely have on many kids ability to obtain a college degree.

First, as a general rule when a student transfers from college A to college B, the student will lose some credits.

Second, imagine the first point happening 2-3 times. How many credits will many of these kids have at the end of their 3rd year of college if they have already transferred a few times (Darrell Jackson as an example)?

Third, many kids will not receive any scholarship from the transfer portal. I have read estimates as high as 40%. Which means 40% of kids will leave a college where they had a full scholarship and not have a scholarship at the conclusion of the portal process.

3% of college football players will ever play in the NFL. The obvious math then is that 97% need to obtain a degree or they will have often wasted that opportunity. I am confident the vast majority will not return later in life to college. So is the portal good or bad for the 97% that need to obtain a degree? The verdict won’t arrive for another 4-5 years but I don’t like the direction this is going.

Yes, but remember that many of these kids are basically told to skedaddle, no? Or can they stay at a school even if they’re not on a roster?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Another example of the disaster that is the NC2A. Even when they try to help kids they ***** it up.

Next you are going to tell me that there is gambling in Casablanca...

 

[AtlAtty]

Yes, but remember that many of these kids are basically told to skedaddle, no? Or can they stay at a school even if they’re not on a roster?

This is a great question. if its a 4 year scholarship as UM said it would start providing, as opposed to a 1 year renewable scholarship, then it would seem a player could jsut be a student and remain on campus.

 

[Brains]

I'm generally anti-college as I think very few people actually benefit from a degree. The student loan epidemic also is a major issue for young people in our country.

I'm worried about student debt for these kids. Those that enter the portal with nowhere to land will end up at a hometown university or walking on somwehere and they'll inevitably end up with thousands in student debt based on mis guided direction of entering the portal.

The vast, vast majority of people have no business obtaining a 4-year college degree.

They should be learning how to do a specific task, with specific training.

 

[423Hurricane]

The vast, vast majority of people have no business obtaining a 4-year college degree.

They should be learning how to do a specific task, with specific training.

What we’re in desperate need of are tradesmen - carpenters, plumbers, electricians, etc. They make a **** good living and are in high demand, Many I know work for themselves and can work as much as they want.

 

[Rellyrell]

I'm generally anti-college as I think very few people actually benefit from a degree. The student loan epidemic also is a major issue for young people in our country.

I'm worried about student debt for these kids. Those that enter the portal with nowhere to land will end up at a hometown university or walking on somwehere and they'll inevitably end up with thousands in student debt based on mis guided direction of entering the portal.

Or the greater majority will trick off the opportunity to obtain a degree on a school’s dime & wind up right back to where they started. That story happens more than often.

 

[Ispyin]

One issue I have not seen discussed anywhere is the negative impact the transfer portal will likely have on many kids ability to obtain a college degree.

First, as a general rule when a student transfers from college A to college B, the student will lose some credits.

Second, imagine the first point happening 2-3 times. How many credits will many of these kids have at the end of their 3rd year of college if they have already transferred a few times (Darrell Jackson as an example)?

Third, many kids will not receive any scholarship from the transfer portal. I have read estimates as high as 40%. Which means 40% of kids will leave a college where they had a full scholarship and not have a scholarship at the conclusion of the portal process.

3% of college football players will ever play in the NFL. The obvious math then is that 97% need to obtain a degree or they will have often wasted that opportunity. I am confident the vast majority will not return later in life to college. So is the portal good or bad for the 97% that need to obtain a degree? The verdict won’t arrive for another 4-5 years but I don’t like the direction this is going.

There’s a simple answer to this and that is if a kid from school goes into the transfer portal and doesn’t find a home he can stay at his existing school off of athletic scholarship and have his scholarship paid for until he graduates. The schools can afford it and it doesn’t count against the 85.

and for certain that should happen when a kid is told to leave the program

 

[AtlAtty]

There’s a simple answer to this and that is if a kid from school goes into the transfer portal and doesn’t find a home he can stay at his existing school off of athletic scholarship and have his scholarship paid for until he graduates. The schools can afford it and it doesn’t count against the 85.

and for certain that should happen when a kid is told to leave the program

This is what should happen. Kids should not lose their ability to attend school on a scholarship because they aren’t as good as they, or the coaches expected, in their sport.

 

[Savage Cane]

One issue I have not seen discussed anywhere is the negative impact the transfer portal will likely have on many kids ability to obtain a college degree.

First, as a general rule when a student transfers from college A to college B, the student will lose some credits.

Second, imagine the first point happening 2-3 times. How many credits will many of these kids have at the end of their 3rd year of college if they have already transferred a few times (Darrell Jackson as an example)?

Third, many kids will not receive any scholarship from the transfer portal. I have read estimates as high as 40%. Which means 40% of kids will leave a college where they had a full scholarship and not have a scholarship at the conclusion of the portal process.

3% of college football players will ever play in the NFL. The obvious math then is that 97% need to obtain a degree or they will have often wasted that opportunity. I am confident the vast majority will not return later in life to college. So is the portal good or bad for the 97% that need to obtain a degree? The verdict won’t arrive for another 4-5 years but I don’t like the direction this is going.

Not Applicable


If student A. is a D1 caliber football or basketball athlete, than student A. AIN’T no student in 99.8% of the cases ( outside of Ivy League & Military Academies ) .

It’s criminal ( justice; ) , but these young men are trading their futures ( & future earning potential ) for the potential of making a quick buck or having a great ride in their early 20’s ( Puss & Parties / Pseudo Celeb Status etc… )

Most will come out of the washer beaten up & in the exact same position minus the memories & inevitable divorce as if they would’ve just taken a job at the local hardware store.

 

[WanderFranco]

Not Applicable


If student A. is a D1 caliber football or basketball athlete, than student A. AIN’T no student in 99.8% of the cases ( outside of Ivy League & Military Academies ) .

It’s criminal ( justice; ) , but these young men are trading their futures ( & future earning potential ) for the potential of making a quick buck or having a great ride in their early 20’s ( Puss & Parties / Pseudo Celeb Status etc… )

Most will come out of the washer beaten up & in the exact same position minus the memories & inevitable divorce as if they would’ve just taken a job at the local hardware store.

This is such an exaggeration. MANY D1 football and basketball players are good students who care about doing well in their classes.

 

[Savage Cane]

This is such an exaggeration. MANY D1 football and basketball players are good students who care about doing well in their classes.

Your lips to God’s ears WF

I pray I’m completely off base, and these coddled young men are model students + members of their communities.

For every Demetrius Jackson there’s a dozen coulda, shoulda, wouldas floating around like lost sheep.

Like I said, I pray i’m over simplifying a very complex subject.

 

[WanderFranco]

Your lips to God’s ears WF

I pray I’m completely off base, and these coddled young men are model students + members of their communities.

For every Demetrius Jackson there’s a dozen coulda, shoulda, wouldas floating around like lost sheep.

Like I said, I pray i’m over simplifying a very complex subject.

I think you're picturing a stereotypical Hollywood college athlete. A lot of those kids are good dudes who are pretty responsible.

 

[AtlAtty]

I think you're picturing a stereotypical Hollywood college athlete. A lot of those kids are good dudes who are pretty responsible.

I think there is truth to what you and @Savage Cane are saying. Many athletes are good students, and many are not. But regardless, the ONLY chance most will have to obtain a college degree without going into debt is a scholarship. And many are unknowingly forfeiting their opportunity for a free education because they have deluded themselves or been deluded by others that there is a better playing opportunity somewhere else.

 

[ThomasM]

Another example of the disaster that is the NC2A. Even when they try to help kids they ***** it up.

Maybe they aren't trying to help them out as much as we think.

 

[CaneThang2020]

One issue I have not seen discussed anywhere is the negative impact the transfer portal will likely have on many kids ability to obtain a college degree.

First, as a general rule when a student transfers from college A to college B, the student will lose some credits.

Second, imagine the first point happening 2-3 times. How many credits will many of these kids have at the end of their 3rd year of college if they have already transferred a few times (Darrell Jackson as an example)?

Third, many kids will not receive any scholarship from the transfer portal. I have read estimates as high as 40%. Which means 40% of kids will leave a college where they had a full scholarship and not have a scholarship at the conclusion of the portal process.

3% of college football players will ever play in the NFL. The obvious math then is that 97% need to obtain a degree or they will have often wasted that opportunity. I am confident the vast majority will not return later in life to college. So is the portal good or bad for the 97% that need to obtain a degree? The verdict won’t arrive for another 4-5 years but I don’t like the direction this is going.

Facts. The transfer portal has helped the best players help the best teams. But the majority of these young men are losing out on an opportunity of a lifetime that they'll never get back.

The 1 year sitout rule actually protected these young men because it made them think twice before jumping into the "portal".