The tale of two Richt's

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I don't think that there is any doubt that we have one of the best QB Coach/Qb combinations in the country (talking about Mark and not Jon). For my taste, Kaaya and Richt are not just one of the best combinations, they are at the top of the list. I honestly can't remember the last time that I was this excited about our offense, specifically the passing game. My excitement along with me being bored today led me to do a little research to see what we may be in store for regarding our passing game this upcoming season. Considering that we have one of the top QB's in the country, I wonder if our offense will be pass heavy this year. I was inclined to believe that our offense will be very balanced based upon Richt's pro-style approach. However, what I discovered during my research is there is a tale of two different Richt's as it relates to his offenses. Below is a list of the 12 starting QB's and their PAG's (Pass Attempts per Game) that Richt had dating back to 1990, the year that he became the QB coach at FSU. It's worth noting that he became the OC at FSU in 1994. Also worth noting, as most of us already know, Richt turned over play calling duties at UGA in 2007. As for the list, I only included the year that each QB had the highest number of PAG's during their careers under Richt.

Brad Johnson- 1990- 14.8 pag
Casey Weldon- 1991- 26.0 pag
Charlie Ward- 1993- 34.5 pag
Danny Kanell- 1995- 36.5 pag
Thad Busby- 1997- 35.4 pag
Chris Weinke- 2000- 35.5 pag
David Green- 2003- 31.2 pag
DJ Shockley- 2005- 25.8 pag
Matt Stafford- 2008- 29.4 pag
Aaron Murray- 2013- 31.5 pag
Hutson Mason- 2014- 21.3 pag
Grayson Lambert- 2015- 21.3 pag

There's a lot of different analysis and thoughts that can be taken from the above list (curious to hear yours). Several things stood out to me. The last 4 QB's at FSU and the first 4 QB's at UGA threw the ball significantly more than the other QB's on the list. That span of 8 QB's also happen to be during the prime of Richt's career when he was considered to be an elite offensive coach. When you take a closer look of that "prime" time span, you will find that the 4 QB's at FSU had an average of 35.5 pag compared to the 4 QB's at UGA that had an average of only 29.4 pag. That is literally an average of 6 more pag at FSU than at UGA. I know that a few may say that 6 attempts a game is not that much of a difference. I beg to differ, especially when you factor in Kaaya's stats from last year. When you factor in his stats, 6 more attempts can be a world of a difference. Kaaya completed 61.2% of his passes last year with an average of 13.6 yards per completion. Simply put, 6 more attempts for Kaaya means 3.6 more completions a game. At 13.6 yards per completion, that results in 49 more passing yards per game which is 637 more passing yards in a 13 game season (Bowl game included).

Of course, there are a lot of variables to factor in regarding what type of year Kaaya can have this season based upon the above stats, facts, and predictive analysis. Will he have a better or worse completion percentage? I think he will, giving that he is now working with a true QB guru and I can't possibly imagine our receivers dropping near the amount of passes that our receivers dropped last year (we were among the worst in the country). I'm not really a betting man, but based on those two variables alone, I am willing to bet that his completion % will actually improve from his 61.2% from last year.

The major question in all of this is which Richt are we getting at the U? Will it be late fsu/early uga Richt or will it be early fsu/late uga Richt? Either one will be a tremendous upgrade from what we've had to deal with over the past decade or so. One thing that we know for sure, is Numbers don't lie!!! Most discussions about Richt in the media seems to be about when he was calling plays and when he wasn't calling plays. I believe the more relevant discussion should be about how much more explosive, efficient, and unstoppable his offfenses were when he was also the QB coach in addition to calling plays. Richt's offenses during his prime at FSU and during his prime at UGA were glaringly different styles. He was the OC at FSU and at UGA. The stark difference is he was also the QB coach at FSU in addition to calling the plays. At UGA, Mike Bobo was the QB coach when Richt was calling the plays. That suggest to me that Richt is more pass heavy in his offenses when he is also the QB coach as opposed to when he is not. During that span, FSU offenses set several passing records, had 2 different Heisman trophy winners, and oh yeah, they also won 2 national championships. Now that Richt is back in the QB room, we can again have those same expectations without it being considered far fetched, finally!!!

Go canes!
 
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the 4 QB's at FSU had an average of 35.5 pag compared to the 4 QB's at UGA that had an average of only 29.4 pag. That is literally an average of 6 more pag at FSU than at UGA.

not sure i'm following your math
 
Nice break down. Good stuff. I think we get a very aggressive Richt calling plays. We're gonna put up big numbers and kids are going to be climbing the walls to play for the Canes. Thanks to the stats and analysis.

Go Canes!
 
the 4 QB's at FSU had an average of 35.5 pag compared to the 4 QB's at UGA that had an average of only 29.4 pag. That is literally an average of 6 more pag at FSU than at UGA.

not sure i'm following your math

The QB's at fsu had 6 more pass attempts per game than the QB's at UGA
 
He also had a Heisman runner-up in Weldon at FSU. I think tempo and style at FSU lent to more plays overall. Also, supposedly, it was Richt's tempo being too fast for the SEC, that caused him to fall out of favor at UGA, which ultimately led to Bobo being promoted.

FSU fell off the map after Richt left. 1.5 losses per year over his 10-year tenure. After he left they averaged 4.6 losses per year over the following 10 years.

We will get whatever teams give us in addition to what playing fast will allow us to do offensively. Gonna be fun to watch and I can't wait.


1990 Bowden 10–2 W Blockbuster 4 4
1991 Bowden 11–2 W Cotton 4 4
Bobby Bowden (ACC) (1992–2009)
1992 Bowden 11–1 8–0 1st W Orange† 2 2
1993 Bowden 12–1 8–0 1st W Orange† 1 1
1994 Bowden 10–1–1 8–0 1st W Sugar† 5 4
1995 Bowden 10–2 7–1 1st W Orange† 5 4
1996 Bowden 11–1 8–0 1st L Sugar† 3 3
1997 Bowden 11–1 8–0 1st W Sugar† 3 3
1998 Bowden 11–2 7–1 1st L Fiesta† 3 3
1999 Bowden 12–0 8–0 1st W Sugar† 1 1
2000 Bowden 11–2 8–0 1st L Orange† 4 5
2001 Bowden 8–4 6–2 2nd W Gator 15 15
2002 Bowden 9–5 7–1 1st L Sugar† 23 21
2003 Bowden 10–3 7–1 1st L Orange† 10 11
2004 Bowden 9–3 6–2 2nd W Gator 14 15
2005 Bowden 8–5 5–3 1st Atlantic L Orange† 23 23
2006 Bowden 7–6 3–5 5th Atlantic W Emerald
2007 Bowden 7–6 4–4 4th Atlantic L Music City
2008 Bowden 9–4 5–3 2nd Atlantic W Champs Sports 23 21
2009 Bowden 7–6 4–4 3rd Atlantic W Gator
Jimbo Fisher (ACC) (2010–present)
2010 Fisher 10–4 6–2 1st Atlantic W Chick-fil-A 16 17
2011 Fisher 9–4 5–3 2nd Atlantic W Champs Sports 23 23
 
I don't think that there is any doubt that we have one of the best QB Coach/Qb combinations in the country (talking about Mark and not Jon). For my taste, Kaaya and Richt are not just one of the best combinations, they are at the top of the list. I honestly can't remember the last time that I was this excited about our offense, specifically the passing game. My excitement along with me being bored today led me to do a little research to see what we may be in store for regarding our passing game this upcoming season. Considering that we have one of the top QB's in the country, I wonder if our offense will be pass heavy this year. I was inclined to believe that our offense will be very balanced based upon Richt's pro-style approach. However, what I discovered during my research is there is a tale of two different Richt's as it relates to his offenses. Below is a list of the 12 starting QB's and their PAG's (Pass Attempts per Game) that Richt had dating back to 1990, the year that he became the QB coach at FSU. It's worth noting that he became the OC at FSU in 1994. Also worth noting, as most of us already know, Richt turned over play calling duties at UGA in 2007. As for the list, I only included the year that each QB had the highest number of PAG's during their careers under Richt.

Brad Johnson- 1990- 14.8 pag
Casey Weldon- 1991- 26.0 pag
Charlie Ward- 1993- 34.5 pag
Danny Kanell- 1995- 36.5 pag
Thad Busby- 1997- 35.4 pag
Chris Weinke- 2000- 35.5 pag
David Green- 2003- 31.2 pag
DJ Shockley- 2005- 25.8 pag
Matt Stafford- 2008- 29.4 pag
Aaron Murray- 2013- 31.5 pag
Hutson Mason- 2014- 21.3 pag
Grayson Lambert- 2015- 21.3 pag

There's a lot of different analysis and thoughts that can be taken from the above list (curious to hear yours). Several things stood out to me. The last 4 QB's at FSU and the first 4 QB's at UGA threw the ball significantly more than the other QB's on the list. That span of 8 QB's also happen to be during the prime of Richt's career when he was considered to be an elite offensive coach. When you take a closer look of that "prime" time span, you will find that the 4 QB's at FSU had an average of 35.5 pag compared to the 4 QB's at UGA that had an average of only 29.4 pag. That is literally an average of 6 more pag at FSU than at UGA. I know that a few may say that 6 attempts a game is not that much of a difference. I beg to differ, especially when you factor in Kaaya's stats from last year. When you factor in his stats, 6 more attempts can be a world of a difference. Kaaya completed 61.2% of his passes last year with an average of 13.6 yards per completion. Simply put, 6 more attempts for Kaaya means 3.6 more completions a game. At 13.6 yards per completion, that results in 49 more passing yards per game which is 637 more passing yards in a 13 game season (Bowl game included).

Of course, there are a lot of variables to factor in regarding what type of year Kaaya can have this season based upon the above stats, facts, and predictive analysis. Will he have a better or worse completion percentage? I think he will, giving that he is now working with a true QB guru and I can't possibly imagine our receivers dropping near the amount of passes that our receivers dropped last year (we were among the worst in the country). I'm not really a betting man, but based on those two variables alone, I am willing to bet that his completion % will actually improve from his 61.2% from last year.

The major question in all of this is which Richt are we getting at the U? Will it be late fsu/early uga Richt or will it be early fsu/late uga Richt? Either one will be a tremendous upgrade from what we've had to deal with over the past decade or so. One thing that we know for sure, is Numbers don't lie!!! Most discussions about Richt in the media seems to be about when he was calling plays and when he wasn't calling plays. I believe the more relevant discussion should be about how much more explosive, efficient, and unstoppable his offfenses were when he was also the QB coach in addition to calling plays. Richt's offenses during his prime at FSU and during his prime at UGA were glaringly different styles. He was the OC at FSU and at UGA. The stark difference is he was also the QB coach at FSU in addition to calling the plays. At UGA, Mike Bobo was the QB coach when Richt was calling the plays. That suggest to me that Richt is more pass heavy in his offenses when he is also the QB coach as opposed to when he is not. During that span, FSU offenses set several passing records, had 2 different Heisman trophy winners, and oh yeah, they also won 2 national championships. Now that Richt is back in the QB room, we can again have those same expectations without it being considered far fetched, finally!!!

Go canes!

A good start...picture might come into better focus IF...

- adjust stats by eliminating (for each QB and season) their lowest and highest PAG in order to mitigate the statistical outliers
- ADD to each QBs stat line how many sacks that Offense gave up that season
- ADD to each QB stat line what was the avg yds per carry for the season


I suspect that will really start bringing what you provided into a sharper focus...(corch and croot crowd will have their heads explode reading this...)
 
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I don't think that there is any doubt that we have one of the best QB Coach/Qb combinations in the country (talking about Mark and not Jon). For my taste, Kaaya and Richt are not just one of the best combinations, they are at the top of the list. I honestly can't remember the last time that I was this excited about our offense, specifically the passing game. My excitement along with me being bored today led me to do a little research to see what we may be in store for regarding our passing game this upcoming season. Considering that we have one of the top QB's in the country, I wonder if our offense will be pass heavy this year. I was inclined to believe that our offense will be very balanced based upon Richt's pro-style approach. However, what I discovered during my research is there is a tale of two different Richt's as it relates to his offenses. Below is a list of the 12 starting QB's and their PAG's (Pass Attempts per Game) that Richt had dating back to 1990, the year that he became the QB coach at FSU. It's worth noting that he became the OC at FSU in 1994. Also worth noting, as most of us already know, Richt turned over play calling duties at UGA in 2007. As for the list, I only included the year that each QB had the highest number of PAG's during their careers under Richt.

Brad Johnson- 1990- 14.8 pag
Casey Weldon- 1991- 26.0 pag
Charlie Ward- 1993- 34.5 pag
Danny Kanell- 1995- 36.5 pag
Thad Busby- 1997- 35.4 pag
Chris Weinke- 2000- 35.5 pag
David Green- 2003- 31.2 pag
DJ Shockley- 2005- 25.8 pag
Matt Stafford- 2008- 29.4 pag
Aaron Murray- 2013- 31.5 pag
Hutson Mason- 2014- 21.3 pag
Grayson Lambert- 2015- 21.3 pag

There's a lot of different analysis and thoughts that can be taken from the above list (curious to hear yours). Several things stood out to me. The last 4 QB's at FSU and the first 4 QB's at UGA threw the ball significantly more than the other QB's on the list. That span of 8 QB's also happen to be during the prime of Richt's career when he was considered to be an elite offensive coach. When you take a closer look of that "prime" time span, you will find that the 4 QB's at FSU had an average of 35.5 pag compared to the 4 QB's at UGA that had an average of only 29.4 pag. That is literally an average of 6 more pag at FSU than at UGA. I know that a few may say that 6 attempts a game is not that much of a difference. I beg to differ, especially when you factor in Kaaya's stats from last year. When you factor in his stats, 6 more attempts can be a world of a difference. Kaaya completed 61.2% of his passes last year with an average of 13.6 yards per completion. Simply put, 6 more attempts for Kaaya means 3.6 more completions a game. At 13.6 yards per completion, that results in 49 more passing yards per game which is 637 more passing yards in a 13 game season (Bowl game included).

Of course, there are a lot of variables to factor in regarding what type of year Kaaya can have this season based upon the above stats, facts, and predictive analysis. Will he have a better or worse completion percentage? I think he will, giving that he is now working with a true QB guru and I can't possibly imagine our receivers dropping near the amount of passes that our receivers dropped last year (we were among the worst in the country). I'm not really a betting man, but based on those two variables alone, I am willing to bet that his completion % will actually improve from his 61.2% from last year.

The major question in all of this is which Richt are we getting at the U? Will it be late fsu/early uga Richt or will it be early fsu/late uga Richt? Either one will be a tremendous upgrade from what we've had to deal with over the past decade or so. One thing that we know for sure, is Numbers don't lie!!! Most discussions about Richt in the media seems to be about when he was calling plays and when he wasn't calling plays. I believe the more relevant discussion should be about how much more explosive, efficient, and unstoppable his offfenses were when he was also the QB coach in addition to calling plays. Richt's offenses during his prime at FSU and during his prime at UGA were glaringly different styles. He was the OC at FSU and at UGA. The stark difference is he was also the QB coach at FSU in addition to calling the plays. At UGA, Mike Bobo was the QB coach when Richt was calling the plays. That suggest to me that Richt is more pass heavy in his offenses when he is also the QB coach as opposed to when he is not. During that span, FSU offenses set several passing records, had 2 different Heisman trophy winners, and oh yeah, they also won 2 national championships. Now that Richt is back in the QB room, we can again have those same expectations without it being considered far fetched, finally!!!

Go canes!

A good start...picture might come into better focus IF...

- adjust stats by eliminating (for each QB and season) their lowest and highest PAG in order to mitigate the statistical outliers
- ADD to each QBs stat line how many sacks that Offense gave up that season
- ADD to each QB stat line what was the avg ypc for the season


I suspect that will really start bringing what you provided into a sharper focus...(corch and croot crowd will have their heads explode reading this...)

Good point regarding the # of sacks per season because that reflects how many times there was an attempt to make a pass. As for the ypc, I chose not to add that into the stat line because that is a completely different conversation.
 
the 4 QB's at FSU had an average of 35.5 pag compared to the 4 QB's at UGA that had an average of only 29.4 pag. That is literally an average of 6 more pag at FSU than at UGA.

not sure i'm following your math

You can't follow his math because you're the village idiot. You are DEFINITELY not smarter than a 5th grader.
 
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I don't think that there is any doubt that we have one of the best QB Coach/Qb combinations in the country (talking about Mark and not Jon). For my taste, Kaaya and Richt are not just one of the best combinations, they are at the top of the list. I honestly can't remember the last time that I was this excited about our offense, specifically the passing game. My excitement along with me being bored today led me to do a little research to see what we may be in store for regarding our passing game this upcoming season. Considering that we have one of the top QB's in the country, I wonder if our offense will be pass heavy this year. I was inclined to believe that our offense will be very balanced based upon Richt's pro-style approach. However, what I discovered during my research is there is a tale of two different Richt's as it relates to his offenses. Below is a list of the 12 starting QB's and their PAG's (Pass Attempts per Game) that Richt had dating back to 1990, the year that he became the QB coach at FSU. It's worth noting that he became the OC at FSU in 1994. Also worth noting, as most of us already know, Richt turned over play calling duties at UGA in 2007. As for the list, I only included the year that each QB had the highest number of PAG's during their careers under Richt.

Brad Johnson- 1990- 14.8 pag
Casey Weldon- 1991- 26.0 pag
Charlie Ward- 1993- 34.5 pag
Danny Kanell- 1995- 36.5 pag
Thad Busby- 1997- 35.4 pag
Chris Weinke- 2000- 35.5 pag
David Green- 2003- 31.2 pag
DJ Shockley- 2005- 25.8 pag
Matt Stafford- 2008- 29.4 pag
Aaron Murray- 2013- 31.5 pag
Hutson Mason- 2014- 21.3 pag
Grayson Lambert- 2015- 21.3 pag

There's a lot of different analysis and thoughts that can be taken from the above list (curious to hear yours). Several things stood out to me. The last 4 QB's at FSU and the first 4 QB's at UGA threw the ball significantly more than the other QB's on the list. That span of 8 QB's also happen to be during the prime of Richt's career when he was considered to be an elite offensive coach. When you take a closer look of that "prime" time span, you will find that the 4 QB's at FSU had an average of 35.5 pag compared to the 4 QB's at UGA that had an average of only 29.4 pag. That is literally an average of 6 more pag at FSU than at UGA. I know that a few may say that 6 attempts a game is not that much of a difference. I beg to differ, especially when you factor in Kaaya's stats from last year. When you factor in his stats, 6 more attempts can be a world of a difference. Kaaya completed 61.2% of his passes last year with an average of 13.6 yards per completion. Simply put, 6 more attempts for Kaaya means 3.6 more completions a game. At 13.6 yards per completion, that results in 49 more passing yards per game which is 637 more passing yards in a 13 game season (Bowl game included).

Of course, there are a lot of variables to factor in regarding what type of year Kaaya can have this season based upon the above stats, facts, and predictive analysis. Will he have a better or worse completion percentage? I think he will, giving that he is now working with a true QB guru and I can't possibly imagine our receivers dropping near the amount of passes that our receivers dropped last year (we were among the worst in the country). I'm not really a betting man, but based on those two variables alone, I am willing to bet that his completion % will actually improve from his 61.2% from last year.

The major question in all of this is which Richt are we getting at the U? Will it be late fsu/early uga Richt or will it be early fsu/late uga Richt? Either one will be a tremendous upgrade from what we've had to deal with over the past decade or so. One thing that we know for sure, is Numbers don't lie!!! Most discussions about Richt in the media seems to be about when he was calling plays and when he wasn't calling plays. I believe the more relevant discussion should be about how much more explosive, efficient, and unstoppable his offfenses were when he was also the QB coach in addition to calling plays. Richt's offenses during his prime at FSU and during his prime at UGA were glaringly different styles. He was the OC at FSU and at UGA. The stark difference is he was also the QB coach at FSU in addition to calling the plays. At UGA, Mike Bobo was the QB coach when Richt was calling the plays. That suggest to me that Richt is more pass heavy in his offenses when he is also the QB coach as opposed to when he is not. During that span, FSU offenses set several passing records, had 2 different Heisman trophy winners, and oh yeah, they also won 2 national championships. Now that Richt is back in the QB room, we can again have those same expectations without it being considered far fetched, finally!!!

Go canes!

A good start...picture might come into better focus IF...

- adjust stats by eliminating (for each QB and season) their lowest and highest PAG in order to mitigate the statistical outliers
- ADD to each QBs stat line how many sacks that Offense gave up that season
- ADD to each QB stat line what was the avg yds per carry for the season


I suspect that will really start bringing what you provided into a sharper focus...(corch and croot crowd will have their heads explode reading this...)

I should have been more clear...I meant yards per carry...

Also, I would add (since Im not doing the data crunch..why not!!)

- How many games each QB, for each season, played from behind with <=10mins4Q

While not perfect, these data sets could provide an even sharper focus wrt to OL enabling performance for the QBs

Go Canes...and the corch and croot crowd head's explode in 3...2...1...
 
It kinda looks like the QB's he had confidence in threw the ball more. He took advantage of their skills which means we should see some serious passing this year considering how good Kaaya is. If Searls gets the ol in shape and gives Kayaa time to get his job done we should see some serious numbers in the passing game. This season needs to get here, I can't wait to see the change in this team.
 
Thanks Reg. Good stuff.

From the above, I tend to agree that it's the quality of the QB that correlates best with more pass attempts per game.

That said, a big variable we haven't included is the quality of the running game (offensive line + RBs). If you have a big gun at RB ( eg Todd Gurley), shoot it and shoot it often. If we applied this analysis to Lane Kiffin at Bama, we'd conclude that he doesn't like to throw the ball. Just hand it off to the Heisman Trophy winner 35-40 times per year. That's Kiffin's choice given his high quality RBs and just adequate QBs. At USC, he liked to throw the ball a lot with Matt Leinart and Barkley at QB.

The best, of course, is to have a powerful running game with an excellent QB. That gives Richt and any playcaller the option to choose a play that emphasizes matchup advantages on each down and distance decision.
 
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The thing that excites me the most is thinking of Kaaya getting the ball to his WRs on the move. X-Box Coley was terrible at this. Terrible at seeing what the D was giving, and knowing what to take. Richt is light years ahead of Coley, and it will make Kaaya and our WRs look so much better. It'll make our line look better as well. I'm telling you now, we're in for a special season.
 
No worries.

You'll join the "BAND" soon; then, you won't have to waste anymore of your precious syllables....

Waste of words.

I'm pulling for Mark to succeed. Again, he wasn't my first choice. He's a great-looking coach on paper. I just need him to be a Savage for once. If he was more of a Savage at Georgia, he probably have more success.
 
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