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wacane

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Is it dead as we know it? Seems like everyone on here is hinting at that. So let's talk about it. By dead I mean consistently contending for conference titles and the occasional NC. That hasn't happened around here in a long time. As dark as probation was in the 90's, this seems worse, doesn't it? We came out of that much quicker. Many on here will say that UM is and will always be a sleeping giant simply because of the talent down here. I somewhat agree with that. But you need the right guy. And the longer this lingers, the harder it will be to emerge from it. This administration hasn't shown a **** thing to suggest that they can accomplish this. So, give me some reasons as to why we'll come out of this funk. My starting point of this funk is 2006. Even though the signs starting showing earlier than that. So we're in the 9th year of this slide with no immediate hope of coming out of it. Give me some hope....
 
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Miami will be a mediocre football program for the foreseeable future.
 
It aint dead.

More like dogs stuck on a leash.

All it takes is the right pack leader.

Let em hunt.
 
Miami football has been dead. This isn't the 80s anymore. Its a different era.

The talent base is still here though. The real problem is, can UM afford the kind of coach that can win early here. THAT Im not sure about. Im afraid that no matter WHO we hire, its going to be a 4-5 year development process. Its going to take the new coach time to refine HIS skills, as well as get things right, the right players, assistants, etc. It took butch 5 years to get it right. I don't know if Golden will ever get it right or not. He may not have the time. If he flounders this year, he may run out of time.

But we cant pay what the top programs pay. I just don't see a scenario where we can bring in a top level guy, who can assemble a dream team of assistants, to whip this program into a national powerhouse in 1 or 2 seasons. Whatever we do, I think its going to have to be a slower process than at other places.
 
CANE4LIFE said:
The real problem is, can UM afford the kind of coach that can win early here.
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They most surely CAN......they just choose not to. It's about priorities and they most surely don't care about a winning football program.
 
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UM football is dead. Most(if not all) of us on here will not witness a NC in our lifetime. I truly believe this. It would be hard for any program to survive 3 consecutive coaching hire fiascos. It's time for cane nation to get over this. We have been trying to rescussitate a corpse since 2005. Time to let go.
Choice is yours, embrace the new ****** product on the field or leave it. I'm undecided right now.
 
ADELPHI said:
UM football is dead. Most(if not all) of us on here will not witness a NC in our lifetime. I truly believe this. It would be hard for any program to survive 3 consecutive coaching hire fiascos. It's time for cane nation to get over this. We have been trying to rescussitate a corpse since 2005. Time to let go.
Choice is yours, embrace the new ****ty product on the field or leave it. I'm undecided right now.
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The day Jim Larranaga was hired was the day UM became a basketball school.
 
CANE4LIFE said:
Miami football has been dead. This isn't the 80s anymore. Its a different era.

The talent base is still here though. The real problem is, can UM afford the kind of coach that can win early here. THAT Im not sure about. Im afraid that no matter WHO we hire, its going to be a 4-5 year development process. Its going to take the new coach time to refine HIS skills, as well as get things right, the right players, assistants, etc. It took butch 5 years to get it right. I don't know if Golden will ever get it right or not. He may not have the time. If he flounders this year, he may run out of time.

But we cant pay what the top programs pay. I just don't see a scenario where we can bring in a top level guy, who can assemble a dream team of assistants, to whip this program into a national powerhouse in 1 or 2 seasons. Whatever we do, I think its going to have to be a slower process than at other places.
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Not paying the big money has been the story line forever. JJ was some dude who could not get pass OU. Dennis has some funky new offense. Butch was only dude who would take the job. The only top gun hire Miami ever made was Howard. As I remember he had one of the highest contracts in college at the time. Howard was huge name, bigger than all those who followed combined. We have won on the cheap for decades, not reason we can't continue. Chud would probably be a bargain right now. Just need to make the move. We just need ambitious coach wanting NFL.
 
So it is dead. Was hoping someone could give me some hope. Curious to see if LU or D$ want to jump in and offer their thoughts on the overall state or the program
 
Totally agree, if anyone think UM cannot afford to pay a good coach $4M a yr they don't know anything about the University. They choose to invest elsewhere.
 
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We're dead as long as we have ****** coaching. If we hire the right guy you'll be amazed how quickly we turn it around.

It's happened dozens of times at marquee programs that people thought were dead because they were down for so long. ****, it happened here in 2001 after we had people shoveling dirty on the UM grave.
 
yeah, some folks forget how bad Texas, Oklahoma and USC were in the late 80's and early to mid 90's. Then they made excellent coaching hires and bounced back big-time. Oklahoma hired a coordinator and USC hired an NFL retread, so it can be done. We don't need to hire Nick Saban or Urban Meyer to succeed. We just need to have an AD who can spot the NEXT big thing. There are plenty of young, talented coordinators who would love to kick off their Head Coaching career at the U. Saying that this program is "dead" is utterly asinine. Ten years ago, would anyone have expected Baylor to evolve into a one of the nation's most exciting top 20 programs? They were lucky to have even been invited into the Big XII after the Big 8 broke up, for crying out loud.
 
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BuddyRyans46 said:
yeah, some folks forget how bad Texas, Oklahoma and USC were in the late 80's and early to mid 90's. Then they made excellent coaching hires and bounced back big-time. Oklahoma hired a coordinator and USC hired an NFL retread, so it can be done. We don't need to hire Nick Saban or Urban Meyer to succeed, we just need to have an AD who can spot the NEXT big thing. Saying that this program is "dead" is utterly asinine. Ten years ago, would anyone have expected Baylor to evolve into a top 20 program? They were lucky to have even been invited into the Big XII after the Big 8 broke up, for crying out loud.
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UM just needs the right guy, not the biggest name or most expensive guy. Like you said, usc got lucky with their 4th option. Carroll had to beg for the interview. Oklahoma hired Stoops for a relatively modest amount after hiring 4 or 5 busts in a row.
 
The Franchise said:
BuddyRyans46 said:
yeah, some folks forget how bad Texas, Oklahoma and USC were in the late 80's and early to mid 90's. Then they made excellent coaching hires and bounced back big-time. Oklahoma hired a coordinator and USC hired an NFL retread, so it can be done. We don't need to hire Nick Saban or Urban Meyer to succeed, we just need to have an AD who can spot the NEXT big thing. Saying that this program is "dead" is utterly asinine. Ten years ago, would anyone have expected Baylor to evolve into a top 20 program? They were lucky to have even been invited into the Big XII after the Big 8 broke up, for crying out loud.
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UM just needs the right guy, not the biggest name or most expensive guy. Like you said, usc got lucky with their 4th option. Carroll had to beg for the interview. Oklahoma hired Stoops for a relatively modest amount after hiring 4 or 5 busts in a row.
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EXACTLY my point, The Franchise. We just have a lot of divas around here who like to shovel dirt.
 
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