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The Showdown at Kidd Brewer Stadium

CanesAreAble said:
App State's performances against P5 since the Michigan upset:

2008: LSU 41-13
2010: Florida 48-10
2011: Virginia Tech 66-13
2013: Georgia 45-6
2014: Michigan 52-14
2015: Clemson 41-10
2016: Tennessee 20-13


So the entire premise of a close battle is built around the Tennessee game, which is likely indicative of very little.

We see ranked teams sleepwalk through those type of games every year. The GOAT '01 team was only beating Troy 14-7 at the half. The next week they put up 49 points @FSU.

App St is a one-dimensional team with inferior talented across the board. Intangibles can only take you so far.

If we take this game with a modicum of seriousness, we'll win comfortably.
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You struggled against a bottom tier C-USA team. Taylor Lamb threw 32 TD's last season and had 37 overall.

2001 has no bearing on 2016.

This team isn't one-dimensional, simply haven't needed to throw the ball, and when the time came to throw against UT, passes were completed. The final drive in regulation proves that App could throw the ball in that game, just one bad play call led to **** poor clock management.
 
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NVA CANE said:
The Franchise said:
NVA CANE said:
The Franchise said:
NVA CANE said:
They'll squeeze a fan in every spot they can. Wouldn't be surprised if it hits 55k by kick off
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LOL at 55k in a 23k seat HS stadium. How can they sell more tickets than they have or allow more people to attend than the fire codes would permit?
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I've heard they are selling tickets where you can sit on other fans shoulders. They're squeezin em in
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They're also recruiting Siamese Twins to attend so they can get around the capacity issue. They're going all out.
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In full disclosure, I went full ****** with my 55k comment. Thought they had much more space than 23k
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It'll likely be 35,000. 35,000 in a 23,000 seat stadium is like Miami having 100,000 at Sun Life (I know you don't play at Sun Life anymore). 35,000 is all they will let in, it's likely that people will be climbing the fence from outside the stadium as well; not to see Miami, but to see App steam roll Miami.
 
In all seriousness, for those who will be in Boone, I recommend you hit up Woodlands BBQ in Blowing Rock. Best wings and in general anything pork related in North Carolina.
 
ericsaid said:
In all seriousness, for those who will be in Boone, I recommend you hit up Woodlands BBQ in Blowing Rock. Best wings and in general anything pork related in North Carolina.
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This man speaks the truth. Woodlands is the ****.
 
Struggled last week really@ericsaid? umm 38-10 isn't struggling Georgia vs Nichols St that's struggling, Tennessee vs your team that's disturbingly struggling and those were supposed top ten teams at the time. No what Miami did was whip the Owls into submission by pounding the ball because the downfield passing game was ineffective, but I guess havin two backs go over 100 yds rushing is struggling? Stifling defense doesn't count either when we're just throwing **** against the wall to create false bravado huh?
 
ericsaid said:
CanesAreAble said:
According to App State fans, their passing game is suspect. So a team with inferior talent and depth is going to line up and blow us off the ball for 60 minutes?

People keep talking about the Tennessee game, but they scored 13 points.

Unless we put the ball on the ground eleventy billion times, I don't see how they score more than 17-20.
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17-13 is still a win. App missed a FG and an extra point against Tennessee. App stayed in that game by blowing them off the ball for 60 minutes, so I have no concerns about the same thing not happening this week. Line play comes down to two things: scheme and pure raw dog talent. That raw talent took Tennessee's offensive line (admittedly porous but not unlike Miami's) to task the entire game. The offensive line played well enough for Cox to have around 150 total yards.

Georgia Southern beat Florida in 2013 without completing a pass. GUESS WHAT, you don't need a forward pass to win a game. Just line up and make sure your will and desire is stronger than the person you face, talent goes out the window.
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The Florida team that went 4-8? That team stunk. Weren't they playing a walk-on QB at that point of the season?

Seems ambitious to hold Miami to around 13 points. That would be considerably below what we did last year, and essentially the entire offense returns.
 
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ericsaid said:
CanesAreAble said:
App State's performances against P5 since the Michigan upset:

2008: LSU 41-13
2010: Florida 48-10
2011: Virginia Tech 66-13
2013: Georgia 45-6
2014: Michigan 52-14
2015: Clemson 41-10
2016: Tennessee 20-13


So the entire premise of a close battle is built around the Tennessee game, which is likely indicative of very little.

We see ranked teams sleepwalk through those type of games every year. The GOAT '01 team was only beating Troy 14-7 at the half. The next week they put up 49 points @FSU.

App St is a one-dimensional team with inferior talented across the board. Intangibles can only take you so far.

If we take this game with a modicum of seriousness, we'll win comfortably.
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You struggled against a bottom tier C-USA team. Taylor Lamb threw 32 TD's last season and had 37 overall.

2001 has no bearing on 2016.

This team isn't one-dimensional, simply haven't needed to throw the ball, and when the time came to throw against UT, passes were completed. The final drive in regulation proves that App could throw the ball in that game, just one bad play call led to **** poor clock management.
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We "struggled" against FAU because our QB literally had THE worst game of his career. I believe that was only game he's ever had with a passer rating below 100. Expecting a repeat performance is wishful thinking. Even against pressure he's made plays. He threw for 400 yards and 3 TDs @FSU and he got hit **** near every time he dropped back.

Has Lamb thrown for anything against a defense with a pulse? The passing game was pedestrian at best against Tennessee.
 
CanesAreAble said:
ericsaid said:
CanesAreAble said:
App State's performances against P5 since the Michigan upset:

2008: LSU 41-13
2010: Florida 48-10
2011: Virginia Tech 66-13
2013: Georgia 45-6
2014: Michigan 52-14
2015: Clemson 41-10
2016: Tennessee 20-13


So the entire premise of a close battle is built around the Tennessee game, which is likely indicative of very little.

We see ranked teams sleepwalk through those type of games every year. The GOAT '01 team was only beating Troy 14-7 at the half. The next week they put up 49 points @FSU.

App St is a one-dimensional team with inferior talented across the board. Intangibles can only take you so far.

If we take this game with a modicum of seriousness, we'll win comfortably.
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You struggled against a bottom tier C-USA team. Taylor Lamb threw 32 TD's last season and had 37 overall.

2001 has no bearing on 2016.

This team isn't one-dimensional, simply haven't needed to throw the ball, and when the time came to throw against UT, passes were completed. The final drive in regulation proves that App could throw the ball in that game, just one bad play call led to **** poor clock management.
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We "struggled" against FAU because our QB literally had THE worst game of his career. I believe that was only game he's ever had with a passer rating below 100. Expecting a repeat performance is wishful thinking. Even against pressure he's made plays. He threw for 400 yards and 3 TDs @FSU and he got hit **** near every time he dropped back.

Has Lamb thrown for anything against a defense with a pulse? The passing game was pedestrian at best against Tennessee.
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The game plan wasn't to throw the ball. It was to outrush UT, control the clock, have the ball last, and force turnovers. All of those things were accomplished yet a ****** call for a swing pass while attempting to have an offensive lineman block a DB set App back to where they had to run another play to get back into FG range instead of simply centering the ball and calling a timeout.

There were three passes on that drive that would've been plenty effective throughout the game however with the way the defense was playing, it wasn't needed. Capel (16) is probably App's best receiver and best hopes of igniting a passing game if it's in the game plan.
 
CanesAreAble said:
ericsaid said:
CanesAreAble said:
According to App State fans, their passing game is suspect. So a team with inferior talent and depth is going to line up and blow us off the ball for 60 minutes?

People keep talking about the Tennessee game, but they scored 13 points.

Unless we put the ball on the ground eleventy billion times, I don't see how they score more than 17-20.
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17-13 is still a win. App missed a FG and an extra point against Tennessee. App stayed in that game by blowing them off the ball for 60 minutes, so I have no concerns about the same thing not happening this week. Line play comes down to two things: scheme and pure raw dog talent. That raw talent took Tennessee's offensive line (admittedly porous but not unlike Miami's) to task the entire game. The offensive line played well enough for Cox to have around 150 total yards.

Georgia Southern beat Florida in 2013 without completing a pass. GUESS WHAT, you don't need a forward pass to win a game. Just line up and make sure your will and desire is stronger than the person you face, talent goes out the window.
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The Florida team that went 4-8? That team stunk. Weren't they playing a walk-on QB at that point of the season?

Seems ambitious to hold Miami to around 13 points. That would be considerably below what we did last year, and essentially the entire offense returns.
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Essentially App's entire defense returns as well (outside of Ronald Blair who is pretty much starting for the 49er's now).
 
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Canes1087 said:
Struggled last week really@ericsaid? umm 38-10 isn't struggling Georgia vs Nichols St that's struggling, Tennessee vs your team that's disturbingly struggling and those were supposed top ten teams at the time. No what Miami did was whip the Owls into submission by pounding the ball because the downfield passing game was ineffective, but I guess havin two backs go over 100 yds rushing is struggling? Stifling defense doesn't count either when we're just throwing **** against the wall to create false bravado huh?
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THE BRAVADO IS REAL! DAMNIT IT'S REAL I TELL YOU.
 
mossmadness said:
ericsaid said:
mossmadness said:
Blew a team off the ball for 60 minutes, only scored 13 points. Good luck with that.
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Have you seen the game?
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Didn't everybody?
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Even though I shouldn't be, I'm surprised people are putting so much stock into the Tennessee game. By using the transitive property and extrapolation, I suppose App State would take Bama into the 4th quarter in Tuscaloosa because the Vols did.

I watched the App St/Tennessee game twice, and there's nothing scary about that team. No gamebreakers on offense. QB with a lollipop arm who struggles with accuracy. Defense that was playing soft coverage all day.

If Dobbs could actually throw, it would've been over a lot earlier.
 
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