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F-MarioCristobal said:
They may not do that but the controversy and changes that would be forced in the off-season would be horrific.

It would be the idea of 4 auto bids for the SEC and Big 10 and evolving to a 16 team playoff or more.

No thanks. Go back to 4 teams. There is zero controversy as to who the best 4 teams are.

Ohio State, Indiana, SEC Champ winner, Texas Tech (BYU if they beat them). You can't debate that those 4 teams deserve it over the rest of the field depending on how Saturday plays out. The order may shuffle a little bit but that's it. That would be 2 great games and a good championship game. No G5 fluff, no Alabama losing and getting in controversy, no having to see Oklahoma's offense look a SpEd/make a wish kid playing QB, no ND, no ACC, etc.
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The 4 teams left out UGA a few years ago because of the SEC title game
They were by far the best team that year
 
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F-MarioCristobal said:
They may not do that but the controversy and changes that would be forced in the off-season would be horrific.
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This is exactly why Miami should’ve been pushing the “We may have to look at adjusting our future scheduling” narrative as soon as Notre Dame was 8 spots higher in the first rankings.

But no. “Anyone, anywhere, anytime” sounds way cooler, and tougher. Can’t sound like a bunch of pussies, even if it would have helped our cause because exactly like what you’re saying, people don’t want repercussions that impact big games during the regular season. The SEC knows this. The B1G knows this.
 
TwentySix said:
This is exactly why Miami should’ve been pushing the “We may have to look at adjusting our future scheduling” narrative as soon as Notre Dame was 8 spots higher in the first rankings.

But no. “Anyone, anywhere, anytime” sounds way cooler, and tougher. Can’t sound like a bunch of pussies, even if it would have helped our cause because exactly like what you’re saying, people don’t want repercussions that impact big games during the regular season. The SEC knows this. The B1G knows this.
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They should say we're only going to play Notre Dame if it's the last game of the year. Don't schedule them early and give them both the benefit of a win and the benefit of a good, early loss. Notre Dame can clearly spin that game however they want. They wouldn't be able to do that if it was the last game.

The insanity of it all, just think of Notre Dame's argument position:

They Lose
Notre Dame lost a close game to a good Miami team early in the season. It's a better loss than Miami has. You can't punish early losses and Notre Dame has gotten better.

They Win
Notre Dame beat Miami head to head. There shouldn't be any question whose the better team.

How is it that both outcomes are good for them and that there's no negative fallout in losing?
 
They select the teams they want and then create the rationale. This is why it is never consistent or rationale.

Give up this notion that they are trying to be fair or that they have everyone's best interests in mind. All these reasonable and rationale takes will be pushed to the side for the ratings and money.

A lot of fans are going to start realizing the truth very soon.
 
Last teams out in 2024 were Bama (9-3) and the Canes (10-2). Tide got dragged by OU (which went 2-6 in the SEC) in late November. We ended the regular-season with the defensive collapse at the Carrier Dome. However, the teams on the 2025 bubble sprinted across the finish line instead of stumbling over it

The outrage from/about the bubble teams left out will easily fuel enough momentum to expand to CFP to 24 (or more teams) by 2027 at the latest

The conference championship games are dead men walking and operating on the same timeline as CFP expansion.

Does anybody see the CFP committee as composed (and under the watchful eye of Greg Sankey) eliminating Alabama for a loss to Georgia?

Is BYU out with a loss to Texas Tech? Is Texas Tech still in the CFP with a loss to BYU?
 
If they move Bama up I think they'll "punish" Ole Miss to get as much a buffer between Miami and ND as they can (and also protect bama incase they lose the SEC championship game.)

I think they move Oklahoma to 7, Bama to 8, Keep ND at 9, Ole Miss to 10, BYU 11, Miami 12. Ultimate disaster scenario for us.

This keeps Ole Miss in the playoffs but bumps them down for the coaching loss. It also creates a scenario where they won't have to look at the head to head with Miami/ND and keeps Alabama away from us as a 3 loss team. I know they dont want to punish a team for reaching the conference championship, but I just don't think you can ignore the Bama/FSU game if Miami and Bama end up ranked next to each other on the fringe.
 
Canestomp said:
We're doing all this sweating to get into the CFP, Canes better whoop up on whoever's *** they see in the first round with recklessness. Don't waste everyone's time by pulling an SMU @ Penn St., taking 38 back shots at Beaver Stadium.
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Yep... do a Cotton Bowl on them.
 
Tim240z said:
I know they dont want to punish a team for reaching the conference championship, but I just don't think you can ignore the Bama/FSU game if Miami and Bama end up ranked next to each other on the fringe.
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UMFarArcher said:
We wouldn't be having this conversation had Mario kept his foot off the brakes.
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This is a weak defense of Mario but the truth is Miami is the most NFL-like team in cfb. Mario coaches with that mentality. NFL teams don’t typically keep their foot on the pedal once they get a big lead. They go conservative to avoid big mistakes and use up the clock. Yes once in a blue moon that strategy bites the team in the *** like with Falcons v Patriots. But the 5000 other nfl games over the years where teams got a lead, went conservative, and won are forgotten about.
 
Genghis Cane said:
I was talking to @Da Jumbo Mutombo about this in another thread and figured I’d share my line of thinking. If the committee was smart and wanted to save themselves from an insane amount of criticism, then this is what they SHOULD do tomorrow night:

#9 — Miami
#10 — Notre Dame
#11 — Bama
#12 — BYU

Why is this perfect?

1) Miami is given their flowers for beating ND. 90% of the CFB universe would argue this is a good move.

2) ND is STILL in the playoff. Their fans will be irritated for a second, but they will eventually acknowledge that it’s a rational decision. They will also be happy to still be in the playoff.

3) BYU / Bama have an opportunity to prove themselves — win your conference title games and you’re IN the playoff, bumping Miami and ND out. Both fan bases will be frustrated, but they will still control their own destiny. If they lose, they have no one to blame but themselves.

4) The committee is no longer boxed in with Bama. The problem with leaving them at #10 is they are in the playoff no matter what, even if they lose in the SEC championship game. You cannot punish a team for getting there. And even if you disagree with me about that line of thinking, it will never happen. But that’s why bumping them down one spot to #11 solves all of their problems. Now Bama can lose and they can keep them out of the playoff. It wouldn’t be a punishment anymore because they were already on the outside looking in to begin with. And after their performance the last few weeks, this isn’t a hard sell. They are not playing good football right now, so they should fall in the rankings. If they are good enough to beat UGA, then they will earn a spot back in.

5) Everything I just said above holds true for BYU. Reward them for beating Tech. If it happens, they will have earned the right to be in the playoff.

This all makes way too much sense to me. It’s a solution that would create the least amount of controversy, so, naturally, it won’t happen. The only two fan bases that will want to burn everything to the ground are Vandy and Texas.

Vandy is 10-2 without beating a single team that will finish the season ranked. At the end of the day, that’s what holds them back. Beating an 8-4 Tennessee team — who didn’t beat single power 4 team with a winning record — headlines their resume. That’s not good enough to jump any of the teams mentioned above.

Texas has 3 losses — one of them to a Florida team that we body bagged. I agree that they shouldn’t be punished for losing to Ohio State, and, in my opinion, they aren’t. Instead, you are punishing them for that Florida loss and the overtime wins against two terrible teams in Kentucky and Miss. State. They are not a consistent team, which means they don’t deserve a playoff spot.

What do you all think? @DMoney, if you’re right about Miami getting in, then I believe this is the most likely path for us.
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I think it'll be

Bama
BYU
Miami
ND

Miami will be first out with a BYU win and the committee gets to pretend that they're fair and unbiased and they'll know that they won't have to answer questions about not respecting H2H
 
Hold My Beer said:
Last teams out in 2024 were Bama (9-3) and the Canes (10-2). Tide got dragged by OU (which went 2-6 in the SEC) in late November. We ended the regular-season with the defensive collapse at the Carrier Dome. However, the teams on the 2025 bubble sprinted across the finish line instead of stumbling over it

The outrage from/about the bubble teams left out will easily fuel enough momentum to expand to CFP to 24 (or more teams) by 2027 at the latest

The conference championship games are dead men walking and operating on the same timeline as CFP expansion.

Does anybody see the CFP committee as composed (and under the watchful eye of Greg Sankey) eliminating Alabama for a loss to Georgia?

Is BYU out with a loss to Texas Tech? Is Texas Tech still in the CFP with a loss to BYU?
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BYU would be out with second loss to Texas Texas, especially if not competitive. Alabama would only be out if bludgeoned. Texas Tech is in regardless.
 
Genghis Cane said:
I was talking to @Da Jumbo Mutombo about this in another thread and figured I’d share my line of thinking. If the committee was smart and wanted to save themselves from an insane amount of criticism, then this is what they SHOULD do tomorrow night:

#9 — Miami
#10 — Notre Dame
#11 — Bama
#12 — BYU

Why is this perfect?

1) Miami is given their flowers for beating ND. 90% of the CFB universe would argue this is a good move.

2) ND is STILL in the playoff. Their fans will be irritated for a second, but they will eventually acknowledge that it’s a rational decision. They will also be happy to still be in the playoff.

3) BYU / Bama have an opportunity to prove themselves — win your conference title games and you’re IN the playoff, bumping Miami and ND out. Both fan bases will be frustrated, but they will still control their own destiny. If they lose, they have no one to blame but themselves.

4) The committee is no longer boxed in with Bama. The problem with leaving them at #10 is they are in the playoff no matter what, even if they lose in the SEC championship game. You cannot punish a team for getting there. And even if you disagree with me about that line of thinking, it will never happen. But that’s why bumping them down one spot to #11 solves all of their problems. Now Bama can lose and they can keep them out of the playoff. It wouldn’t be a punishment anymore because they were already on the outside looking in to begin with. And after their performance the last few weeks, this isn’t a hard sell. They are not playing good football right now, so they should fall in the rankings. If they are good enough to beat UGA, then they will earn a spot back in.

5) Everything I just said above holds true for BYU. Reward them for beating Tech. If it happens, they will have earned the right to be in the playoff.

This all makes way too much sense to me. It’s a solution that would create the least amount of controversy, so, naturally, it won’t happen. The only two fan bases that will want to burn everything to the ground are Vandy and Texas.

Vandy is 10-2 without beating a single team that will finish the season ranked. At the end of the day, that’s what holds them back. Beating an 8-4 Tennessee team — who didn’t beat single power 4 team with a winning record — headlines their resume. That’s not good enough to jump any of the teams mentioned above.

Texas has 3 losses — one of them to a Florida team that we body bagged. I agree that they shouldn’t be punished for losing to Ohio State, and, in my opinion, they aren’t. Instead, you are punishing them for that Florida loss and the overtime wins against two terrible teams in Kentucky and Miss. State. They are not a consistent team, which means they don’t deserve a playoff spot.

What do you all think? @DMoney, if you’re right about Miami getting in, then I believe this is the most likely path for us.
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It seems like that would be a logical move for them. Set it up where canes are in if those two teams don’t win their champs and no one complains (ha).
 
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pcitycane said:
Bama should be on the bubble but they arent. they got in with 3 losses last year.
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They didnt. They were the first team out, just ahead of us. Clemson beating SMU in the ACCCG game kept them out.

They haven't played well the last few weeks and if they lose to UGA, they should be out when you consider that FSU beat down they received week 1. But we know how that will go.
 
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