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The only reason CoRch Diaz will give Jarren Williams back the starting Job

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The talk about " building for the future" make no sense here. Perry has 2.5 years left. It's not like he's leaving next year and taking time from Williams
 
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KrazyCane said:
I’m going to always disagree with this position on this board. Im of the belief that a starting QB can never do enough to win if we lose... . especially if they only scored 1 to 2 TDs in the process and we lost by only 3 or 4 points in each game.
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I understand, but if you give your defense a lead late in the game and they give up a TD and/or your DC puts the team in a bad coverage on 4th & 17 then who's to blame?
 
Hurricane23 said:
Perry has another "IT" factor that Jarren does not have
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eh. the it factor didnt help last year. i think both are fine if the OC plays to their strengths in the play calling and offensive scheme. he seems to go against what both do. the drives that worked against UVA were simple drives that got our play makers in space. none of the deep threats connected and we started to go deep with williams at the helm. i will say that if there is no safety over the top, i would prefer a missed deep ball be overthrown rather than underthrown.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
To be fare, Jarren did enough to to beat UNC and perhaps Florida. I do agree that Diaz is of the mindset to take his lumps this year playing the guys he sees as the future because there's no reason Zion Nelson should be starting. Diaz has substituted everywhere except for Zion. Even if he is the best option, you have to give the guys behind him an opportunity to see what they do in a game situation because Zion isn't getting it done.
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We had 3 redzone opportunities to seal a win against Florida and we didn't. Jarren holds on to the ball to long. Perry should be starting the rest of season. Offensive side of ball has seen some life since he step in. Diaz can't preach competition and not display it. Kosi has done nothing but put this team in position to win and close out game with extending drives and play making ability.
 
colperm said:
Williams has completed over 70% of his passes. Perry has a career percentage hovering around 60%. Other than the first quarter against VT, Williams has shown much better decision making and touch on his throws than Perry.

It's not even close.
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Perry has a higher completion percentage when it’s time to win the game..... and Williams has no touch throwing a pass beyond 10 yards. He freezes in the pocket takes too long to decide when to throw and takes unnecessary sacks bc of it. He also shows no leadership ability and the inability to process what he should do on a given play... his decision making is not even close to being on the level of a legitimate Power 5 QB let along N’Kosi Perry.
 
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KrazyCane said:
I’m going to always disagree with this position on this board. Im of the belief that a starting QB can never do enough to win if we lose... . especially if they only scored 1 to 2 TDs in the process and we lost by only 3 or 4 points in each game.
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Yeah, Kosi's 182 yard performance against UVA was clearly superior quarterbacking because the defense only gave up 9 points. Come on. You have to separate the player from the team in evaluation.
 
I'm a Manny/Enos guy and I absolutely do not like this move. Jarren Williams needs a pocket and needs time to process information. Perry is dynamic and can slow down a pass rush with his elusiveness. He can get us out of bad situations and has a rocket arm to keep defenses honest. VT already exposed JW and other teams will see the same film.

I simply don't see the angle they're playing here... Other than keep pressure on both QBs, I simply don't see JW working with our current OL situation.
 
KrazyCane said:
Is if he is tanking the season, conceding that this season is a loss and needs the excuse of playing a sub par QB who is a “freshman” still learning every little detail about what it takes to be a QB.

Not starting N’kosi Perry at the beginning of the season already cost us 3 games. Jarren hasn’t beaten a Power 5 team in his career and his performance against Bethune and Central Michigan shouldn’t give anyone confidence that he is capable of getting a Power 5 win this season.

Diaz’s decision this week will decide how the rest of the season will play out and the type of excuses we are going to hear from the coaching staff trying to explain away the **** show we are going to witness the rest of the season if Jarren Williams ever starts again on this team.
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One sport that you don't want to tank in is College Football. I just think he shows favoritism towards Jarren over Kosi. Why? Who the **** knows?
 
The ONLY reason I can see for Manny leaving the hot hand and going back to JW now is that he doesn't want to accept that he may have made a mistake

JW gave us his best and performed adequately.....while being very good his efforts still were NOT enough. This is no knock against JW because he was learning on the job

BUT Kosi is obviously the hot hand now and has rallied the team when it needed it the most,....... you prove nothing by going back to JW. It's taking a big chance when you have someone who is obviously clicking now on a moribund offense and going back to status quo

So why do it?

Swallow your pride and give us what we want the most WINS.......we could GAF about your ego now.

We want to win NOW!!!
 
MainLineCane said:
The ONLY reason I can see for Manny leaving the hot hand and going back to JW now is that he doesn't want to accept that he may have made a mistake

JW gave us his best and performed adequately.....while being very good his efforts still were NOT enough. This is no knock against JW because he was learning on the job

BUT Kosi is obviously the hot hand now and has rallied the team when it needed it the most,....... you prove nothing by going back to JW. It's taking a big chance when you have someone who is obviously clicking now on a moribund offense and going back to status quo

So why do it?

Swallow your pride and give us what we want the most WINS.......we could GAF about your ego now.

We want to win NOW!!!
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If our defense doesn’t play lights out in the red zone Kosi would have lost that game. Kosi’s one advantage is a downfield and he overthrew every pass downfield. Yeah he ran in a touchdown at the end but Jarren would have hit a wide open Deejay for the same touchdown.

QB’s are judged by their arm and Jarren was leading the ACC in passing efficiency. Jarrens also not Kaaya in the pocket he runs faster than N’kosi. He just has to learn when to run
 
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SayWhat said:
Contrary to what many think in here, Manny and company want to win and will play who they think gives us the best chance to do so. Fans always like to overcomplicate things and think they know more than the guys watching this team daily.

I hope Perry is that guy, but I guess we'll see. He could get injured next practice and Jarren gets the nod. It doesn't even have to be public and often isn't. Nobody wants to tank a game though.
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Yea that explains starting Patchan over Greg in the first 5 games 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
 
colperm said:
Williams has completed over 70% of his passes. Perry has a career percentage hovering around 60%. Other than the first quarter against VT, Williams has shown much better decision making and touch on his throws than Perry.

It's not even close.
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Well by that logic Tate has something like an 80% career completion percentage.

Along with his great completion percentage, JW also has something like 5 or 6 fumbles.
 
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