The Offense: Putrid & Predictable

I keep saying it. Whose fault is it, that terrible teams and average teams can completely shut our run down? Syracuse, UNC, Pitt. No one can convince me that's on Rosier. The guy is an inconsistent QB. He should not be tossing the ball 34 times a game. Should throw more than 18-25 times. Most of his throws are in long yardage.

We don't care about the running game. We don't hit anybody. When it pops through it's mostly by accident. It's been maddening ever since Richt arrived. I can't criticize much else but the rushing attempt numbers are disgracefully low every week, especially in the first half. I realize nobody cares about that but I have several betting systems that center around that stat, and we flunk badly. It is illegitimate toward national laurels. Absolute frailty. You are guaranteed to hit the wall somewhere and be ruthlessly exposed, a la Mike Leach. That's why I've been equally thrilled and stunned all season. Instead of looking at how we fared against the team we played I've been projecting forward to facing the true blue bloods. Not fun when you do that. So many categories have been great -- like pass defense -- while others are horrendous -- like rushing attempts and passing percentage, etc.

Pittsburgh was a poor team but not a soft team. That's where we screwed up. If they had a tissue rushing defense like Virginia last season then we could have waltzed up there all overconfident and unconcerned and it wouldn't have mattered. Our loopy delayed running plays would have busted occasionally and Rosier wouldn't have been able to avoid the end zone multiple times. But this Panther team was like a low level version of all the blue collar teams that gave the great Miami teams fits in bowl games over the decades. Only two teams ran successfully on the Panthers -- Georgia Tech and North Carolina State. Those games skewed the stats to make the run defense look much worse than actual. Our game was the 8th time Pittsburgh held a foe under 4 yards per rush and 5 times it was 3 yards per rush or lower. They held Oklahoma State below 3 yards per rush.

We couldn't run, basically didn't try to run, showed up overconfident/tired and our quarterback is an admirable gutsy journeyman type. Not the greatest combination. Yeah, the deep balls were there but anyone who focuses on that aspect alone is whiffing the big picture. This is not a championship level offense as currently constructed. That's the third game (Florida State, Notre Dame) Rosier has been under 6 YPA this season. Bloody miracle we were unbeaten heading into Friday because in college football your win expectancy is less than 25% if the quarterbacking is below 6 YPA during the game itself.

How many permutations do we have...5? RPO handoff or fake, Rosier takes off up the middle, or makes a one-read throw. Sorry, I guess it's 4, not 5.

No matter the caliber of quarterback our emphasis should be hitting people on offense first, and variety of formation and style second. If we would merely shift in and out from under center, and utilize stuff like I formation toss play fakes while moving Rosier around and taking advantage of always-available 5-15 yard centerfield darts and crossing patterns, there's no way we wouldn't be less vulnerable and predictable than we are right now.

Frankly we got away with crap calls several times in critical situations this year. Those sideline lobs into double coverage are pure crappiola. This is at least the 12th consecutive year we waste too many pass plays down the sideline when as soon as it leaves the quarterback's hand I'm thinking...wonderful, that's a 10% expectancy. It's like the **** third down screens. Who cares if they work occasionally? Outliers are meaningless. Do the right thing and it's remarkable how everything falls into place.
You put it better than I could ever put it. Where is the Pistol formation. Why don't we run I and Ace formation. These are formations where defenses have to hesitate on the handoff while giving the RB a chance to build up a head of steam. Even under Golden we were able to run V FSU. Richt offense is inept. I know people wanna say it's the QB. The QB doesn't have much to so with you can't get more than 1 yard almost every first down when you run. Where are the bootlegs? Where are the end around to Jeff Thomas and AR? Where are the flood concepts where all you reads are in one area. There are too many things that non coaches like my self would like to see attempted. For god sakes where is the wild cat with Deejay, who can run that play far better than Rosier. It's ridiculous. Richt has barely made any adjustments on offense. We are too easy to defend from a scheme standpoint and it was gonna run out as soon as we met equal or better talent. That's exactly what almost happen v FSU and we kept tempting faith.

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Take a deep breathe and relax. Bama offense could handle shotgun snaps today t crucial time. Mark is not nor has he even been the genius some claim. If he were he would still be t uga. He is. Good coach and we re in acc title game and one game way from our first playoff spot. Run pass motion jet wildcat or anything else is not what we need. We need our big time players to make big time play in the biggest big time game of the year. We are not the old canes, not yet. We are not going crush the good team, well the ND game was bit of a crushing. Big time plays is how we won all year long and that is what we will need.

Mark is not a genius. He is a guy who backed up everyone and was OC for two heisman qbs. He is not Howard bringing new offense to college football or JJ bringing a new defense. He is, however, a good enough coach to bring us a couple NCs. But it will be our player who do it — always was. That is who we are, not coaches team, a players team. Team got its lose out now it is time for a little three game run.
 
Rosier absolutely sucks throwing on the run.
May have completed 5 all year. This guy has shown no consistency in throwing accurate passes no matter what position you put him in.

Why cant you guys come to terms with the facts that our qbs have sucked *** for a decade and Richt is turning **** to sugar
 
you guys are some armchair QBs...

Only thing Richt is guilty of is going vanilla against inferior opponents, and bringing out the wrinkles against the big guys.

Think about this you overreacting crybabies:

If Malik could have hit the broad side of a barn vs PITT, even for just a single QTR, we win the game easily. I do not in any way harp Richt for keeping it low key with Clemson looming. When you line up and do simple ****, its on the 1-on-1 matchup battles. Not schematics.

We didnt win our 1-on-1s... not up front, not anywhere. I do not think its much to expect the number 2 team in the country to win their 1-on-1 battles up front, or our QB to throw remotely accurately vs a 4-7 team. In fact, by playing how we did we might have a **** shot against Clemson.

You guys are really some ******* pussies, real talk.
"Why didnt we run the delaware wing-T??"
"Why didnt we do a a statue of liberty play before half time??"
"why dont we run the ball in power I 40 plays a game"

Do you really all think that if we could do these things we would? Have you not watched Georgia football at any point in the past 15 years? Richt loves power running, loves bruser backs, loves fullback and play action. Its an excellent failsafe.

Well when you have a crap offensive line, no FB and limited RBs, and only 1 serviceable TE, how do you expect to run? He is doing what he can with what he has, thats plain and simple. The BC stat line was an excellent comparison for this game. QB sucking it up like a calle ocho hooker, and LOOK, OH NO! WE HAVE NO RUNNING GAME TO BAIL US OUT.

The result was expected if Malik has a bad game. He got us out of a ton of jams this year, and has been more consistent than a lot of top QBs.

I know a ton of you never played football so you don't know how demoralizing that game was to our Oline and QB. It is on them, not the coach this game.

Thats my two cents.
 
Had horrible flashback reading all this stuff. Thought it was 5 years ago and we were tossing blame back and forth between players and coaching. We are 10-1, right? I didn’t dream that, right? We’re in the acc Title game right? If we win that we get to playoffs, right? Some please tell me I’m not dreaming all that?
 
Had horrible flashback reading all this stuff. Thought it was 5 years ago and we were tossing blame back and forth between players and coaching. We are 10-1, right? I didn’t dream that, right? We’re in the acc Title game right? If we win that we get to playoffs, right? Some please tell me I’m not dreaming all that?

You aint dreaming and these fans are acting stupid af over this. We good.
 
you guys are some armchair QBs...

Only thing Richt is guilty of is going vanilla against inferior opponents, and bringing out the wrinkles against the big guys.

Think about this you overreacting crybabies:

If Malik could have hit the broad side of a barn vs PITT, even for just a single QTR, we win the game easily. I do not in any way harp Richt for keeping it low key with Clemson looming. When you line up and do simple ****, its on the 1-on-1 matchup battles. Not schematics.

We didnt win our 1-on-1s... not up front, not anywhere. I do not think its much to expect the number 2 team in the country to win their 1-on-1 battles up front, or our QB to throw remotely accurately vs a 4-7 team. In fact, by playing how we did we might have a **** shot against Clemson.

You guys are really some ****ing pussies, real talk.
"Why didnt we run the delaware wing-T??"
"Why didnt we do a a statue of liberty play before half time??"
"why dont we run the ball in power I 40 plays a game"

Do you really all think that if we could do these things we would? Have you not watched Georgia football at any point in the past 15 years? Richt loves power running, loves bruser backs, loves fullback and play action. Its an excellent failsafe.

Well when you have a crap offensive line, no FB and limited RBs, and only 1 serviceable TE, how do you expect to run? He is doing what he can with what he has, thats plain and simple. The BC stat line was an excellent comparison for this game. QB sucking it up like a calle ocho hooker, and LOOK, OH NO! WE HAVE NO RUNNING GAME TO BAIL US OUT.

The result was expected if Malik has a bad game. He got us out of a ton of jams this year, and has been more consistent than a lot of top QBs.

I know a ton of you never played football so you don't know how demoralizing that game was to our Oline and QB. It is on them, not the coach this game.

Thats my two cents.
Explain why average teams shut down our Run game. Like totally and completely. Multiple times.

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If we run motions it should be to help Rosier identify coverages. People saying Richt needs to be more creative when in reality he probably needs to dumb it down even further for the QB without an ounce of football IQ to understand where the wide open receiver is on practically every single play
 
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Why are posters obsessed with pre-snap motion?

If your QB can't throw the ball accurately and your Oline can't block it's all pointless anyway.

Does pre-snap motion really make that much of a difference?

No, it doesn't, when your quarterback can't hit simple bubble screens. Don't let that get in the way of idiots who believe that mere motion can fix what ails Rosier. Richt had the right approach Friday, Miami had guys running free all day, Rosier managed to miss every single one of them. That was impressively bad.
 
Why are posters obsessed with pre-snap motion?

If your QB can't throw the ball accurately and your Oline can't block it's all pointless anyway.

Ummm because it can buy valuable seconds for a QB, lead to favorable matchups, and create holes in coverage?

It will lead to Rosier's head exploding. He already can't focus on more than one thing at a time. Jesus.
 
I don't get what you guys expect this team to do.

Our offensive line is NOT DOMINANT. They cannot just push people around, they can't create holes. Travis Homer has good speed and average Vision. He's a one-cut guy, he just needs one hole and he can get yards. He's not getting those holes. He hasn't gotten them in weeks. That's on the O-line just being out muscled.

We don't need trick plays, motion plays, etc. Our guys were already running free yesterday. Think about that. Rosier was just badly off. Like, really bad. He was missing bubble screens and slants...

Guys, it's football. In football, the team will only ever be as good as the Quarterback is playing. Rosier isn't super accurate anyway and he had his worst game yet. If he can come out accurate against Clemson, we got a good shot to beat them. Our offensive line isn't good enough in run-blocking to where we can just pound it over and over.

Next year we can get Perry beefed up and hopefully the kid can come out and impress. With the crazy athletes that we have at WR, our passing game should be improving year over year.
 
you guys are some armchair QBs...

Only thing Richt is guilty of is going vanilla against inferior opponents, and bringing out the wrinkles against the big guys.

Think about this you overreacting crybabies:

If Malik could have hit the broad side of a barn vs PITT, even for just a single QTR, we win the game easily. I do not in any way harp Richt for keeping it low key with Clemson looming. When you line up and do simple ****, its on the 1-on-1 matchup battles. Not schematics.

We didnt win our 1-on-1s... not up front, not anywhere. I do not think its much to expect the number 2 team in the country to win their 1-on-1 battles up front, or our QB to throw remotely accurately vs a 4-7 team. In fact, by playing how we did we might have a **** shot against Clemson.

You guys are really some ****ing pussies, real talk.
"Why didnt we run the delaware wing-T??"
"Why didnt we do a a statue of liberty play before half time??"
"why dont we run the ball in power I 40 plays a game"

Do you really all think that if we could do these things we would? Have you not watched Georgia football at any point in the past 15 years? Richt loves power running, loves bruser backs, loves fullback and play action. Its an excellent failsafe.

Well when you have a crap offensive line, no FB and limited RBs, and only 1 serviceable TE, how do you expect to run? He is doing what he can with what he has, thats plain and simple. The BC stat line was an excellent comparison for this game. QB sucking it up like a calle ocho hooker, and LOOK, OH NO! WE HAVE NO RUNNING GAME TO BAIL US OUT.

The result was expected if Malik has a bad game. He got us out of a ton of jams this year, and has been more consistent than a lot of top QBs.

I know a ton of you never played football so you don't know how demoralizing that game was to our Oline and QB. It is on them, not the coach this game.

Thats my two cents.
Explain why average teams shut down our Run game. Like totally and completely. Multiple times.

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Why does this need to be explained? Teams are selling out against the run and forcing malik to make plays. He hasnt.

Its not rocket science. The run game would open up if Rosier could force the defense out of the box... buut he can't
 
you guys are some armchair QBs...

Only thing Richt is guilty of is going vanilla against inferior opponents, and bringing out the wrinkles against the big guys.

Think about this you overreacting crybabies:

If Malik could have hit the broad side of a barn vs PITT, even for just a single QTR, we win the game easily. I do not in any way harp Richt for keeping it low key with Clemson looming. When you line up and do simple ****, its on the 1-on-1 matchup battles. Not schematics.

We didnt win our 1-on-1s... not up front, not anywhere. I do not think its much to expect the number 2 team in the country to win their 1-on-1 battles up front, or our QB to throw remotely accurately vs a 4-7 team. In fact, by playing how we did we might have a **** shot against Clemson.

You guys are really some ****ing pussies, real talk.
"Why didnt we run the delaware wing-T??"
"Why didnt we do a a statue of liberty play before half time??"
"why dont we run the ball in power I 40 plays a game"

Do you really all think that if we could do these things we would? Have you not watched Georgia football at any point in the past 15 years? Richt loves power running, loves bruser backs, loves fullback and play action. Its an excellent failsafe.

Well when you have a crap offensive line, no FB and limited RBs, and only 1 serviceable TE, how do you expect to run? He is doing what he can with what he has, thats plain and simple. The BC stat line was an excellent comparison for this game. QB sucking it up like a calle ocho hooker, and LOOK, OH NO! WE HAVE NO RUNNING GAME TO BAIL US OUT.

The result was expected if Malik has a bad game. He got us out of a ton of jams this year, and has been more consistent than a lot of top QBs.

I know a ton of you never played football so you don't know how demoralizing that game was to our Oline and QB. It is on them, not the coach this game.

Thats my two cents.
Explain why average teams shut down our Run game. Like totally and completely. Multiple times.

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Why does this need to be explained? Teams are selling out against the run and forcing malik to make plays. He hasnt.

Its not rocket science. The run game would open up if Rosier could force the defense out of the box... buut he can't
So they haven't sold out against Bama, UGA etc? We can't run the ball sell out or not. It's easy to stop the 1 million power plays up the gut. I don't want no excuses. Even games where Rosier threw for tons of ysrds we had trouble running. Get out my face with that bull****

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Why are posters obsessed with pre-snap motion?

If your QB can't throw the ball accurately and your Oline can't block it's all pointless anyway.

Does pre-snap motion really make that much of a difference?

It doesnt. These idiots think its 1984 and you can recognize coverages with motion.

So many coverages have man and zone concepts in them nowadays that youd be a fool to believe its as simple as putting a man in motion to recognize man or zone.
 
you guys are some armchair QBs...

Only thing Richt is guilty of is going vanilla against inferior opponents, and bringing out the wrinkles against the big guys.

Think about this you overreacting crybabies:

If Malik could have hit the broad side of a barn vs PITT, even for just a single QTR, we win the game easily. I do not in any way harp Richt for keeping it low key with Clemson looming. When you line up and do simple ****, its on the 1-on-1 matchup battles. Not schematics.

We didnt win our 1-on-1s... not up front, not anywhere. I do not think its much to expect the number 2 team in the country to win their 1-on-1 battles up front, or our QB to throw remotely accurately vs a 4-7 team. In fact, by playing how we did we might have a **** shot against Clemson.

You guys are really some ****ing pussies, real talk.
"Why didnt we run the delaware wing-T??"
"Why didnt we do a a statue of liberty play before half time??"
"why dont we run the ball in power I 40 plays a game"

Do you really all think that if we could do these things we would? Have you not watched Georgia football at any point in the past 15 years? Richt loves power running, loves bruser backs, loves fullback and play action. Its an excellent failsafe.

Well when you have a crap offensive line, no FB and limited RBs, and only 1 serviceable TE, how do you expect to run? He is doing what he can with what he has, thats plain and simple. The BC stat line was an excellent comparison for this game. QB sucking it up like a calle ocho hooker, and LOOK, OH NO! WE HAVE NO RUNNING GAME TO BAIL US OUT.

The result was expected if Malik has a bad game. He got us out of a ton of jams this year, and has been more consistent than a lot of top QBs.

I know a ton of you never played football so you don't know how demoralizing that game was to our Oline and QB. It is on them, not the coach this game.

Thats my two cents.
Explain why average teams shut down our Run game. Like totally and completely. Multiple times.

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Why does this need to be explained? Teams are selling out against the run and forcing malik to make plays. He hasnt.

Its not rocket science. The run game would open up if Rosier could force the defense out of the box... buut he can't
So they haven't sold out against Bama, UGA etc? We can't run the ball sell out or not. It's easy to stop the 1 million power plays up the gut. I don't want no excuses. Even games where Rosier threw for tons of ysrds we had trouble running. Get out my face with that bull****

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So youre comparing us to Bama and Georgia knowing full well we dont hold a candle to the talent those teams have up front?

Those teams both have monster lines and tight ends with 3 five star backs rotating.

This team is not that good. Were only 10-1 Because of the work of this staff.

If a team sells out against the run the QB is supposed to have a good game. If they sell out to stop the pass then the run game opens up.

Ok. Show me a game where the passing opened up the run game and ill show you ocean front property in Oklahoma.

Rosier cant operate under center. He cant make consistent reads in the rpo/zone read. The run game is crippled because of Rosier inabilities
 
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I’ve said many times Richt could be better, but I think he’s squeezed about as much as he can out of Rosier.
If Richt absolvers would take this approach, I'd have no problem with it. I think Rosier is exactly what he's shown to be. He looked worse yesterday because Narduzzi literally forced him into the lowest % throws possible and we didn't really try anything else. So all that means is blame should be shared to at least some degree. Some people can't handle that, I guess.

Nah, Narduzzi had a good game plan and his kids played hard, but if Malik even under-threw most of those deep balls we win the game. Throws he's made all year he couldn't make yesterday, down to bubble screens and bombs against 1-arm midget defenders. He laid an egg. Not the worst performance in history but it was on him...

“I missed multiple receivers and that is something I have to fix and have thick skin. It can’t happen next week. The big thing is to just learn from this experience. There are multiple times where we play lackadaisical in the first half and in the second half we come out and explode. That just didn’t happen this week. That is something I have to fix and motivate those guys in the first half so that the second half doesn’t have to be a miracle.” - Malik R.

“I knew that if I kept making mistakes, I was going to get pulled,” Rosier said. “He wound up pulling me. I felt like it was one of those moments as a starter where I haven’t lost yet and I guess I got complacent. I was just out there to be out there. I was just going through my reads and not dialing in and focusing on every snap. After that, it put the football game in perspective that at any moment I could get pulled.” -Malik R.

He would casually run off the field after 3 and outs and be no more focused on the next drive. Unappreciative of the tremendous defensive effort being put forth on the other side of the ball, or by players on the offense. Kid didn't look like he wanted to be there and his comments (that I just read) above say as much. However, despite his own words, people want to nit-pick coaching. "Some people can't handle that, I guess"
We can continue to go back and forth. But, it's pointless. It's not nitpicking coaching and I'd bet Coach Richt would tell you he'd try at least a few different things. The bigger issue is Malik has now once again repeated a tendency to become complacent.

There is no back and forth. He quit.

I didn't want to say it but that's essentially what it looked like. Inconsistent decision-making and inaccuracy i've gotten used to, but he's always been a gamer and you could count on him to compete. Yesterday he quit, and there's no way to coach around that. Much respect for him having the balls to speak the truth.

You should stop trying to straw man the convo and just say you were wrong. Not in general, but about yesterday's game.
Not sure what you want me to admit I'm 'wrong' about. If it's that Malik deserves 100% of the blame, not going to agree on that opinion. So like I said, pointless to continue. No intent for a straw man argument.
 
That's not the only reason teams use motion. Teams also use motion to set up numerical advantages to a certain side of the field and/or to get defender's eyes looking places they shouldn't. It can also work to confuse defenders by forcing them to have to take on different responsibilities a second or two before the snap.

Edit: this is a reply to Canezum5's post above
 
I’ve said many times Richt could be better, but I think he’s squeezed about as much as he can out of Rosier.
If Richt absolvers would take this approach, I'd have no problem with it. I think Rosier is exactly what he's shown to be. He looked worse yesterday because Narduzzi literally forced him into the lowest % throws possible and we didn't really try anything else. So all that means is blame should be shared to at least some degree. Some people can't handle that, I guess.

Nah, Narduzzi had a good game plan and his kids played hard, but if Malik even under-threw most of those deep balls we win the game. Throws he's made all year he couldn't make yesterday, down to bubble screens and bombs against 1-arm midget defenders. He laid an egg. Not the worst performance in history but it was on him...

“I missed multiple receivers and that is something I have to fix and have thick skin. It can’t happen next week. The big thing is to just learn from this experience. There are multiple times where we play lackadaisical in the first half and in the second half we come out and explode. That just didn’t happen this week. That is something I have to fix and motivate those guys in the first half so that the second half doesn’t have to be a miracle.” - Malik R.

“I knew that if I kept making mistakes, I was going to get pulled,” Rosier said. “He wound up pulling me. I felt like it was one of those moments as a starter where I haven’t lost yet and I guess I got complacent. I was just out there to be out there. I was just going through my reads and not dialing in and focusing on every snap. After that, it put the football game in perspective that at any moment I could get pulled.” -Malik R.

He would casually run off the field after 3 and outs and be no more focused on the next drive. Unappreciative of the tremendous defensive effort being put forth on the other side of the ball, or by players on the offense. Kid didn't look like he wanted to be there and his comments (that I just read) above say as much. However, despite his own words, people want to nit-pick coaching. "Some people can't handle that, I guess"
We can continue to go back and forth. But, it's pointless. It's not nitpicking coaching and I'd bet Coach Richt would tell you he'd try at least a few different things. The bigger issue is Malik has now once again repeated a tendency to become complacent.

There is no back and forth. He quit.

I didn't want to say it but that's essentially what it looked like. Inconsistent decision-making and inaccuracy i've gotten used to, but he's always been a gamer and you could count on him to compete. Yesterday he quit, and there's no way to coach around that. Much respect for him having the balls to speak the truth.

You should stop trying to straw man the convo and just say you were wrong. Not in general, but about yesterday's game.
Not sure what you want me to admit I'm 'wrong' about. If it's that Malik deserves 100% of the blame, not going to agree on that opinion. So like I said, pointless to continue. No intent for a straw man argument.
 
That's not the only reason teams use motion. Teams also use motion to set up numerical advantages to a certain side of the field and/or to get defender's eyes looking places they shouldn't. It can also work to confuse defenders by forcing them to have to take on different responsibilities a second or two before the snap.

Edit: this is a reply to Canezum5's post above

And how does any of that help a qb who cant throw the ball accurately?
 
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